What would it take for Peyton Manning to be the GOAT QB in your eyes?

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vageneral08;166046 said:
well you can't say that this season because brady had a shitty season and the way it ended it didnt make him look any better yeah you can say he was out for an year but manning basically had a similiar situation and won 9 straight games

Manning didn't miss any time..u can't compare missing a whole season...to just having off season surgery..come on!!
 
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ghost!;166056 said:
Thank you!!!! And u can't even call him a brady fan cuz u can see who he reps..it's over for manning's fans...he and you'lll just got knocked down a notch! ha ha i hurts i know!!

lol he just saying that because the colts beat the jets he was giving manning props before then now he wants to talk shit about him lmao I love the manning haters
 
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ghost!;166070 said:
Manning didn't miss any time..u can't compare missing a whole season...to just having off season surgery..come on!!

No he didnt go to summer camp or practice or nothing! he went straight into the season without preparing like brady did c'mon let it go
 
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vageneral08;166064 said:
On some real shit I wuold like to play the saints again that was good game

Oh yeah man... it was a great game... could have went either way..... I would never say Manning isn't the truth but I just wouldn't put him ahead of Montana as the GOAT QB at least not yet. Cuz honestly if we didn't get that onside kick back I just knew we was done if Manning got the ball at the 40. Momentum just shifted our way, we made adjustments and took advantage.
 
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vageneral08;166086 said:
lol he just saying that because the colts beat the jets he was giving manning props before then now he wants to talk shit about him lmao I love the manning haters

Sorry bro I'm already over the lost. I'm looking forward to the Yankees. But I know it must hurt watching your hero cost you the game. Do like me, take your L and keep it moving because anything you say now are excuses.
 
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allied;166132 said:
Sorry bro I'm already over the lost. But I know it must hurt watching your hero cost you the game. Do like me, take your L and keep it moving because anything you say now are excuses.

Oh shit I'm good, I'm waiting for next season now, it dont hurt me its not like I'm playing for them or something lol....
 
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vageneral08;166097 said:
No he didnt go to summer camp or practice or nothing! he went straight into the season without preparing like brady did c'mon let it go

ha ha

ok so ur gonna compare mini camps and preseason something most star players...dont generally give full effort in..to missing 16 SEASON FULL SEASON GAMES AND POSSIBLE PLAYOFFS

ha ha this dude!! ha ha
 
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im2fly;166129 said:
Oh yeah man... it was a great game... could have went either way..... I would never say Manning isn't the truth but I just wouldn't put him ahead of Montana as the GOAT QB at least not yet. Cuz honestly if we didn't get that onside kick back I just knew we was done if Manning got the ball at the 40. Momentum just shifted our way, we made adjustments and took advantage.

Somebody else mentioned that and was so right. The Pierre Garcon drop and the onside kick were the difference in the game
 
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im2fly;166129 said:
Oh yeah man... it was a great game... could have went either way..... I would never say Manning isn't the truth but I just wouldn't put him ahead of Montana as the GOAT QB at least not yet. Cuz honestly if we didn't get that onside kick back I just knew we was done if Manning got the ball at the 40. Momentum just shifted our way, we made adjustments and took advantage.

Yeah I feel you on that but when it's all said and done manning will be top 5 qb's in nfl history montana is that dude but manning intelligence for football is crazy just imagine if he would've played in the late 80's or early 90's he would have more than one ring for sure
 
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vageneral08;166097 said:
No he didnt go to summer camp or practice or nothing! he went straight into the season without preparing like brady did c'mon let it go

You are def reaching with this one man.
 
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ghost!;166149 said:
ha ha

ok so ur gonna compare mini camps and preseason something most star players...dont generally give full effort in..to missing 16 SEASON FULL SEASON GAMES AND POSSIBLE PLAYOFFS

ha ha this dude!! ha ha

I bet you wont saying that when they were 3-4 in the regular season while manning was fucking up but yeah brady had most of the year to get prepared and still get his ass whooped in the playoffs....while manning gets a surgey right before the season starts smh @ the hate.....how can you say players dont give ful effort into mini camps??? That's what they're practicing for! the season!! if it wasn't no mini camps or preseason games the players would be lazy as fuck and nobody would want to play
 
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vageneral08;166216 said:
I bet you wont saying that when they were 3-4 in the regular season while manning was fucking up but yeah brady had most of the year to get prepared and still get his ass whooped in the playoffs....while manning gets a surgey right before the season starts smh @ the hate.....how can you say players dont give ful effort into mini camps??? That's what they're practicing for! the season!! if it wasn't no mini camps or preseason games the players would be lazy as fuck and nobody would want to play

so....when u red shirt a QB..that's full effort, the defense can't even touch him, when the QB doesn't play a full quarter to not playing at all in preseason thats full effort???..u can't "what if me or bet anything" cuz unlike you and the rest of the brady haters...i look at the whole arguement logically...after last night's game there's nothing any supporter of his can say..if ur great..u dont throw that pic six..bottom line...drees didnt, ben never did, tom brady hasn't thrown a pick in a crucial time of a sb and montana to go even further back NEVER THREW A PIC in the SB.....
 
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vageneral08;166225 said:
Seriously you think a knee surgery wont slow a player down when they have it right before the season starts?????

^^ so by this logic then...this season for brady should be a throw away..cuz he missed the entire 08 season after his knee surgery...
 
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ghost!;166256 said:
so....when u red shirt a QB..that's full effort, the defense can't even touch him, when the QB doesn't play a full quarter to not playing at all in preseason thats full effort???..u can't "what if me or bet anything" cuz unlike you and the rest of the brady haters...i look at the whole arguement logically...after last night's game there's nothing any supporter of his can say..if ur great..u dont throw that pic six..bottom line...drees didnt, ben never did, tom brady hasn't thrown a pick in a crucial time of a sb and montana to go even further back NEVER THREW A PIC in the SB.....

Why would the team risk injurying their own QB???? That's dumb, red shirt or not the QB needs to practice before the season starts nobody can sit on their ass all summer and expect to be good in the season lol this is how I know the haters can't stand manning.....you going off of past games look where they at now....pittsburg is shitty, tom brady isn't the same with 3 ints in a afc championship game he didnt have to throw a pick 6 because the game was over for the pats before it had started montana is the man in san fran but when he was with the chiefs he was not the same the bills whooped they ass
 
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ghost!;166262 said:
^^ so by this logic then...this season for brady should be a throw away..cuz he missed the entire 08 season after his knee surgery...

no because he got hurt in 08 not 09.....if he's good enough to practice during the summer then he's good enough to play during the season by the summer of 09 brady was in good condition no excuses
 
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vageneral08;166299 said:
no because he got hurt in 08 not 09.....if he's good enough to practice during the summer then he's good enough to play during the season by the summer of 09 brady was in good condition no excuses

u really need to stop..u just said if a player comes off a knee suegry they will be slow'd down...ok u have a player who miss the whole year...preseason, practice nor min camp is ever compared to reg-season..i mean really..how old are you..u need to step your football knowledge up fo real....u never compare reg-season to anything before it...it's never the same..whether ur on the field full time or not...if so then D.Freeney wouldn't of miss'd any practice time during this week...smh at ur debatin' skillz..
 
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vageneral08;166287 said:
Why would the team risk injurying their own QB???? That's dumb, red shirt or not the QB needs to practice before the season starts nobody can sit on their ass all summer and expect to be good in the season lol this is how I know the haters can't stand manning.....you going off of past games look where they at now....pittsburg is shitty, tom brady isn't the same with 3 ints in a afc championship game he didnt have to throw a pick 6 because the game was over for the pats before it had started montana is the man in san fran but when he was with the chiefs he was not the same the bills whooped they ass

did he throw one that cost his team the superbowl....ahh i'll answer that for you, NO!!!!!.....u lost

i'm done i aint gonna keep going back n forth with a colts fan..ur team, ur QB once again didnt get it done...
 
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im2fly;165877 said:
I'm sorry but if you have a win percentage of .500 in the playoffs you can't be considered the greatest QB of all time. He might eventually get there but until he actually proves that he can win when it REALLY MATTERS, Montana's going to own that spot. It kills me how people want to put him before Montana. Regular season games and stats don't mean shit without the hardware. You don't hear people putting Marino or Farve on that pedestal and they had the same record breaking stats as Manning does.

I gotta c/s that. He's still got some good years left so he could very well get back to the SB, but a 9-9 playoff record is not a good look
 
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ghost!;166518 said:
did he throw one that cost his team the superbowl....ahh i'll answer that for you, NO!!!!!.....u lost

i'm done i aint gonna keep going back n forth with a colts fan..ur team, ur QB once again didnt get it done...

Of course you can't because your "savior" tom brady didnt do shit this season so you can't brag on him like you have done before there are no excuses yeah we lost but we lost a good one, the pats just recieved an ass whooping at their own field and that's it
 
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