What was the "it" factor that Jay-Z had?

[blackrain]

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ya'll do realize not even Dame Dash gives himself as much credit as ya'll do for Jay's career...there were 3 people who were behind the Roc not just Dame...

 

[georgia boi]

Charisma, top notch beat selection, timing, forward thought, and connecting with the right producers and artists at the right time. Examples:

Charisma- Jay Z is one of the more charismatic rappers. If nothing else, his charisma possibly is his "it" factor.

Beat Selection- Jay Z has always surrounded himself with top notch producers even when they weren't necessarily the "go to guys".

Forward thought- No other rappers had the foresight to rock over Annie samples or Middle Eastern samples. Those were huge risks that elevated Jay to the next level.

Connecting with the right producers and artists at the right time- It was smart to connect with Swizz in 1998 during his RR prime. It was smart to connect with The Neptunes in '00 when their dominance began. It was smart to have Just, Bink! and Kanye helm Blueprint.

 

Charisma, top notch beat selection, timing, forward thought, and connecting with the right producers and artists at the right time. Examples:

Charisma- Jay Z is one of the more charismatic rappers. If nothing else, his charisma possibly is his "it" factor.

Beat Selection- Jay Z has always surrounded himself with top notch producers even when they weren't necessarily the "go to guys".

Forward thought- No other rappers had the foresight to rock over Annie samples or Middle Eastern samples. Those were huge risks that elevated Jay to the next level.

Connecting with the right producers and artists at the right time- It was smart to connect with Swizz in 1998 during his RR prime. It was smart to connect with The Neptunes in '00 when their dominance began. It was smart to have Just, Bink! and Kanye helm Blueprint.

it confuses me when people say jigga had charisma .... really charisma ? dude was and still is boring as shit . nothing live about him .

now pac t.i. and wayne got charisma .... jay is the opposite of them niggas ....

 

[tompetrez3]

Jay Z has talent. well HAD talent. even though RD was boring as fuck to me I did respect where he was taking his flow. besides a rising Ghostface Jay Z was probably hands down the best pound for pound MC that year. His 97 flow is flawless. He breezed through all them Vol 1 tracks like they werent nothin. Came back doubled up and killed everything on Streets Is Watching. the summer of 97 Jay Z had an incredible buzz in the industry as well as the streets. Jay Z was killing freestyles on everybody tapes that summer. Early leaks and rarities from Vol 1 were coming out every week for Jay Z. (Jay Z has an incredible freestyle to the CNN NY, NY track on a Lazy K tape yall gotta hear i cannot find it anywhere.) Greed corrupted his talent and focus. He went from being in his own lane in the spring of 98 to wanting to be like DMX in the summer of 98. when he sold his soul that year Jay Z gave up on progressing as an MC. none of his bars post Vol 1 have a ferocious bite in them. Vol 2 was lazy and gay. Jay Z wasnt even trying to make the album decent. Vol 2 was trash. one of the biggest letdowns lyrically of a rapper following up albums.

 

Jay Z has talent. well HAD talent. even though RD was boring as fuck to me I did respect where he was taking his flow. besides a rising Ghostface Jay Z was probably hands down the best pound for pound MC that year. His 97 flow is flawless. He breezed through all them Vol 1 tracks like they werent nothin. Came back doubled up and killed everything on Streets Is Watching. the summer of 97 Jay Z had an incredible buzz in the industry as well as the streets. Jay Z was killing freestyles on everybody tapes that summer. Early leaks and rarities from Vol 1 were coming out every week for Jay Z. (Jay Z has an incredible freestyle to the CNN NY, NY track on a Lazy K tape yall gotta hear i cannot find it anywhere.) Greed corrupted his talent and focus. He went from being in his own lane in the spring of 98 to wanting to be like DMX in the summer of 98. when he sold his soul that year Jay Z gave up on progressing as an MC. none of his bars post Vol 1 have a ferocious bite in them. Vol 2 was lazy and gay. Jay Z wasnt even trying to make the album decent. Vol 2 was trash. one of the biggest letdowns lyrically of a rapper following up albums.

I try telling niggas that vol.2 was doo doo and they dont hear me .... I mean its like the nigga tried to force a multi platinum album .. the only cuts I bump off that shit is "all good a week ago" and the joint with him and bleek trading bars .. the rest of that shit is garbage juice ..

 

[TRILLip Brooks]

idk, i do know that he never oversaturated himself to the point you got sick of him like 50 & wayne

 

[MR.CJ]

Charisma, top notch beat selection, timing, forward thought, and connecting with the right producers and artists at the right time. Examples:

Charisma- Jay Z is one of the more charismatic rappers. If nothing else, his charisma possibly is his "it" factor.

Beat Selection- Jay Z has always surrounded himself with top notch producers even when they weren't necessarily the "go to guys".

Forward thought- No other rappers had the foresight to rock over Annie samples or Middle Eastern samples. Those were huge risks that elevated Jay to the next level.

Connecting with the right producers and artists at the right time- It was smart to connect with Swizz in 1998 during his RR prime. It was smart to connect with The Neptunes in '00 when their dominance began. It was smart to have Just, Bink! and Kanye helm Blueprint.

when did jay have charisma?

 

[georgia boi]

it confuses me when people say jigga had charisma .... really charisma ? dude was and still is boring as shit . nothing live about him .

now pac t.i. and wayne got charisma .... jay is the opposite of them niggas ....

How does Jay Z not have charisma? I don't think people know exactly what charisma is. By definition, charisma is defined as "a spiritual power or personal quality that gives an individual influence or authority over large numbers of people", "a special personal quality or power of an individual making him capable of influencing or inspiring large numbers of people", "a quality inherent in a thing which inspires great enthusiasm and devotion".

^^^Having read that, tell me how Jay Z does not have charisma? He couldn't be one of the most influential rappers without it. Being "boring" is highly subjective and has nothing to do with being charismatic. You can't move the amount of units that he has without having a high degree of charisma. Furthermore, it's quite contradictory to say that Wayne and T.I. are charismatic and say Jay Z doesn't.

 

[Nah Son]

Jay Z has talent. well HAD talent. even though RD was boring as fuck to me I did respect where he was taking his flow. besides a rising Ghostface Jay Z was probably hands down the best pound for pound MC that year. His 97 flow is flawless. He breezed through all them Vol 1 tracks like they werent nothin. Came back doubled up and killed everything on Streets Is Watching. the summer of 97 Jay Z had an incredible buzz in the industry as well as the streets. Jay Z was killing freestyles on everybody tapes that summer. Early leaks and rarities from Vol 1 were coming out every week for Jay Z. (Jay Z has an incredible freestyle to the CNN NY, NY track on a Lazy K tape yall gotta hear i cannot find it anywhere.) Greed corrupted his talent and focus. He went from being in his own lane in the spring of 98 to wanting to be like DMX in the summer of 98. when he sold his soul that year Jay Z gave up on progressing as an MC. none of his bars post Vol 1 have a ferocious bite in them. Vol 2 was lazy and gay. Jay Z wasnt even trying to make the album decent. Vol 2 was trash. one of the biggest letdowns lyrically of a rapper following up albums.

Never thought I'd see the day...Well damn. Tomp praised something about Jay. I gotta go back and listen to Vol.1 right now.

 

How does Jay Z not have charisma? I don't think people know exactly what charisma is. By definition, charisma is defined as "a spiritual power or personal quality that gives an individual influence or authority over large numbers of people", "a special personal quality or power of an individual making him capable of influencing or inspiring large numbers of people", "a quality inherent in a thing which inspires great enthusiasm and devotion".

^^^Having read that, tell me how Jay Z does not have charisma? He couldn't be one of the most influential rappers without it. Being "boring" is highly subjective and has nothing to do with being charismatic. You can't move the amount of units that he has without having a high degree of charisma. Furthermore, it's quite contradictory to say that Wayne and T.I. are charismatic and say Jay Z doesn't.

his lyrics may be charismatic and influential but him as a person is dull and boring ..... also awkward .

 

The music. That's it. You can't force people to support your shit. You can't force people to buy tickets to your shows. You can't force other artist to ask you for features. You can't force the individuals to follow your trends. Jay-z had the talent and the connections before he meet dame (remember he was touring with Jaz and Big Daddy Kane before RD). People always say Jay-z wanted to be like some other rapper yet no other rappers have done what he has done. There is no flow where you can say "yeah he flowing like such a such". His business acumen was on point since his entrance into the game. You hear of others mistakes rarely of his. If Dame was the "it" factor for Jay then Jay shouldn't be where he is today in the business works, Dame should.

Of all the stories about the dirty music industry Jay-z has not be a victim to none of it. He's made the industry a victim of his. He bought out his final contract and was paid to start his own shit. He doesn't and never had to send emails to his record execs to release his music.

Plus Dame could've had Roc-a-fella all he had to do was release his owner ship of RD. That's it. Look what happen.

get jiggas nuts out ya mouth young boy ..

yea u cant force nobody to buy music but u can manipulate them ....

jigga has been clinging on to people with more influence than him his whole career .. from kane to irv to big to eminem .. u peep how he hasn't been at a heat game since lebron laughed at his nets offer .

yea he's made a victim out of the industry by sucking it dry and pimping every pure detail about it ...

leave dame out ya mouth that situation is old .. dame has other ventures now and jigga has yet to release one album from a artist besides himself on roc nation while dame has helped get currensy who people thought were washed up a vibrant new begining ....

 

clings to whom? Not one of Jay-z's albums have sold because of a feature from someone else. Most of his songs that feature other artist don't get released or promoted as singles (with the exception of R&B singers). All those you have name Jay exceeds them in the music industry and they all have respect for the nigga. As much as the industry has changed niggas are still under the belief that release dates matter. Niggas are doing worldwide tours of mixtapes. Core fan base building > than 360 deals and album releases (jay will get credit for that in the future watch).

clings to whom ? whoever is in the loop at the moment in order for him to remain relevant thats who .. its not just hip hop u see how he is on will smiths nuts right now kid ..

yea niggas are opening up worldwide tours because they have no release date in sight .... we know that already kid .

 

[qawshun]

i find it funny how only in the reason does jay get this much scrutiny

 

[Focal Point]

is this an actual question or a way to shit on the nigga on the low

 

[Los216]

He was Biggie's friend. That was his "it" factor. If Jay-Z didn't know Biggie than he wouldn't be where he is at today

 

[hiphophova]

I didnt notice Jay-Z like that till Vol.2 but he had a verse on Mase's 'harlem world' that stood out.

I think Jigga's 'It' factor was back then was he stood out like an authentic gangsta type hustler, and he seem more mature and the fact you would be willing to listen to his jewels/knowledge than others. He had a stand out presentation and was a cool dude.

Now dude is kinda of an embaressment and his snakey ways being exposed dont help, but dude does and still has an appeal. Most rappers now are just boring unoriginal trash, and you cant say that about Jay.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

I try telling niggas that vol.2 was doo doo and they dont hear me .... I mean its like the nigga tried to force a multi platinum album .. the only cuts I bump off that shit is "all good a week ago" and the joint with him and bleek trading bars .. the rest of that shit is garbage juice ..

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought this...Volume 2 was his sell out ticket for mainstream America and 5 million people ate it up, including myself to keep it 100..the album was okay, but it wasn't all that imo.

when did jay have charisma?

Jay is a laid back, awkward dude. He never had charisma, which is a main element of the" it factor". A lot of his Witnesses gonna say he has it but as BoYBe$T mentioned...

his lyrics may be charismatic and influential but him as a person is dull and boring ..... also awkward .

Exactly the point. Co-sign.

He was Biggie's friend. That was his "it" factor. If Jay-Z didn't know Biggie than he wouldn't be where he is at today

This post was major...yet some don't understand that...Biggie had more of that "it" factor than Jay and Jay basically got his blueprint from him..smh.

Hmmmm. So every other artist that KNEW biggie is in jay-z's position. Word to junior.

You niggas theories are entertaining. Lol

Yet you still cling to Jay's nuts like a leech. STFU.

 

[bootcheese3000]

Serious question..I know many gonna say his lyrics and delivery, but it's well known it takes more than that to have the "it" factor.

Can someone explain what else made Jay-Z special besides the obvious...was it luck? Perfect timing?...or was it just the fact that Biggie died and New York needed to feel that void?

not to mention tupac was dead and the south was making an emergence so new york needed to get back on top of the game. jay-z was never too charismatic or original, he built his career off of biting other emcees but alot of these young cats don't remember his shit from the early 90s and really don't care, they just make their own rules and are trying to reinvent hip-hop according to their beliefs and opinions as if ours don't count let alone the legacy other emcees left behind. that's why you got kids thinking hip-hop started when biggie and tupac and bone thugs were on the scene.

 

[bootcheese3000]

jay wud be workin in maccy d's if it werent for dame dash, lets be real

servin' those jumbos in the drive-thru window..............

"2 fo' 5 nikka, come and get it"...............

talk about a happy meal.............

 

[Logic Last]

consistency was the it factor