What are your hip hop new years resolutions?

[blackrain]

Nope! You just don't understand racial dynamics and the discussion of the subject. Once Racism is, mentioned it implies SOME other race. If, you don't understand this then, you need to study the subject more or at least experience it in some form.

so you're saying in no way did Eminem being white make anybody not take him as seriously as a rapper? come on you got people on here who will blatantly say they don't take a woman rapping seriously because she's a woman...is it really that much of a stretch to think that some black people thought Eminem would be wack before ever hearing him spit a verse simply because he's white...

 

[hrap-120]

NOT on the level of EM? So, two Live crew sitting in court defending their lyrics. The vice President speaking on Lyrics by ICE T. The FBI having surrvailance on ICE T and NWA is some how on a lower level? Surely you jest.

Speak on it Bruh, you are single-handedly slaying everybody in this thread.

 

[Kwan Dai]

so you're saying in no way did Eminem being white make anybody not take him as seriously as a rapper? come on you got people on here who will blatantly say they don't take a woman rapping seriously because she's a woman...is it really that much of a stretch to think that some black people thought Eminem would be wack before ever hearing him spit a verse simply because he's white...

I am saying that. He may be talking about record labels but the majority of Hip Hop fans just want good music. That's why Beastie boys made it, 3rd bass got respect and Vanilla ice was billed as garbage.

 

[Kwan Dai]

it's called classism that's the word you're looking for...and what black man did he blame?

Like I said, it's quite evident you aren't well versed in racial matters. Even if it was Classism EM didn't imply that. He mentioned nothing about his socio-economic condition being a factor. He said his SKIN COLOR. He didn't say it was because, he was a broke white rapper on the come up..

 

[nujerz84]

Nope! You just don't understand racial dynamics and the discussion of the subject. Once Racism is, mentioned it implies SOME other race. If, you don't understand this then, you need to study the subject more or at least experience it in some form.

For one being Latino in Jersey City I faced racism and having a pops living in the Deep South during Civil Rights who faced alot shit for being tanned and that I got a BA in Sociology and Urban Studies I know what Im talking about. Em never implied or mentioned racism from African Americans. The only people who have are the ones who dont like him as another way to talk shit on the net.

 

[lamontbdc]

shit i'm not wasting 13 minutes of my life on a em interview with 60 minutes ill just take your word for it

 

[runningwolf1980]

Right so those of us who actually have a memory and recall what Blacks went through are just supposed to forget yet have sympathy for the same thing Em experienced at the hands of his own people?

nah because poor whites are just like blacks in the eyes of "white america"

 

[Kwan Dai]

Speak on it Bruh, you are single-handedly slaying everybody in this thread.

I don't have an issue with varying perspectives but when cats dismiss the facts to make a point it becomes a pointless discussion. However, I always try to take into consideration that there are other viewing these threads so, if by going a lttle more in depth, perhaps the objective folks can walk way with a broader perspective then that of the defense stan.

 

[FieldTripsToTheHood]

lol more fuel for the racial fire!
Eminem Struggling With His 60 Minutes Intro + Behind Scenes With Eminem & Heavy Security Walking Down His Block In Detroit!
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhcLImFs3AO1A972Q0

For real, dude prob pays through the nose for security dealing with all you haters like the ones in here. Proof got shot with no security detail, Em thinking, fuck it, they did him like that, so why wouldn't they do the same to me.
Dude prob has had death threats. On the reg. Security when you got money like him is serious business.

***nevermind the fact they got a dozen of the whitest cats and a whole cameracrew walking in the middle of the hood....FOH you think they wouldn't have security.

 

[runningwolf1980]

Racism, trumps Classism. At all times, in America. Because when you divide every American up, into Class, then you will still have mainly Whites as the Upper-class and mainly niggz as the Lower-class

nah arabs,jews,asians,west indians make up the richest

 

[hrap-120]

nah arabs,jews,asians,west indians make up the richest

He said in Amerika.

My Mommie was a bad parent so I became a drug addict
The Black kids teased me when I was a teen so I made racist rap songs
The gay and lesbian community came against me so I started cross-dressing and doing songs with gays

Poor me, Im white, rich, famous, and have millions of stans boo hoo hoo, and oh yeah Im a victim of non-white racism.

 

[P. Town]

My Mommie was a bad parent so I became a drug addict
The Black kids teased me when I was a teen so I made racist rap songs
The gay and lesbian community came against me so I started cross-dressing and doing songs with gays

Poor me, Im white, rich, famous, and have millions of stans boo hoo hoo, and oh yeah Im a victim of non-white racism.

Basically......

 

[Kwan Dai]

nah because poor whites are just like blacks in the eyes of "white america"

I agree to an extent. However, this wasn't Em's slant. They tried to spin this into Black and White and Em fell righ into it for, whatever reasons. Case and point. They mentioned how he attended predominately BLACK schools then EM goes on to say he was bullied etc. So, guess who's being implicated by EM? BLACKS!! Keep True Homie. Em mentioned nothing to the exten of WE all were in the boat and WE were all looking for a way out.

 

[runningwolf1980]

I agree to an extent. However, this wasn't Em's slant. They tried to spin this into Black and White and Em fell righ into it for, whatever reasons. Case and point. They mentioned how he attended predominately BLACK schools then EM goes on to say he was bullied etc. So, guess who's being implicated by EM? BLACKS!! Keep True Homie. Em mentioned nothing to the exten of WE all were in the boat and WE were all looking for a way out.

i dont know breh....when em got famous he put on a gang of wack "black" rappers......

 

[nujerz84]

I agree to an extent. However, this wasn't Em's slant. They tried to spin this into Black and White and Em fell righ into it for, whatever reasons. Case and point. They mentioned how he attended predominately BLACK schools then EM goes on to say he was bullied etc. So, guess who's being implicated by EM? BLACKS!! Keep True Homie. Em mentioned nothing to the exten of WE all were in the boat and WE were all looking for a way out.

Again did you even watch the interview.... Predomiatly black or african american were never mentioned at any point when discussing he going to school to school severaly times a year. He has said the main reason he was bullied was he was the new kid in school where in any of that do you get he implicating blacks ??????????

 

[Kwan Dai]

For one being Latino in Jersey City I faced racism and having a pops living in the Deep South during Civil Rights who faced alot shit for being tanned and that I got a BA in Sociology and Urban Studies I know what Im talking about. Em never implied or mentioned racism from African Americans. The only people who have are the ones who dont like him as another way to talk shit on the net.

You lay like a rug. With the piece centered on his upbrining being around MOSTLY Blacks, Blacks by default are being implicated and EM did nothing to dispel this notion.

 

[blackrain]

Like I said, it's quite evident you aren't well versed in racial matters. Even if it was Classism EM didn't imply that. He mentioned nothing about his socio-economic condition being a factor. He said his SKIN COLOR. He didn't say it was because, he was a broke white rapper on the come up..

you know how many people go through classim and confuse it with racism every day...it happens and trust me i'm well versed enough to know and speak on this topic...classism was the reaction by other whites to Eminem's lyrics...did Eminem choose the wrong word by saying racism when talking about his come up in hip-hop yes, it was more prejudice than racism, but to say it wasn't there at all is being willfully ignorant to blatant facts that exist in the world...and that is that when a white person does something normalyl associated with black people there will be black people who don't like them simply based on them being a white person trying to do something traditionally black...

 

[blackrain]

I am saying that. He may be talking about record labels but the majority of Hip Hop fans just want good music. That's why Beastie boys made it, 3rd bass got respect and Vanilla ice was billed as garbage.

and just like in 2000 there were people in the early 90's and late 80's saying "White boys shouldn't rap"

 

[runningwolf1980]

He said in Amerika.

My Mommie was a bad parent so I became a drug addict

The Black kids teased me when I was a teen so I made racist rap songs

The gay and lesbian community came against me so I started cross-dressing and doing songs with gays

Poor me, Im white, rich, famous, and have millions of stans boo hoo hoo, and oh yeah Im a victim of non-white racism.

yeah nigga right here in tha great usa....we done sold out to the rest of the world....you never noticed damn near every fucking bussiness in tha hood is owned by a foreigner?

also how come everything the "hood" thinks is cool got to shoot up in price? rims,shoes,chains,clothes,

 

[hrap-120]

and just like in 2000 there were people in the early 90's and late 80's saying "White boys shouldn't rap"

and just like in 2000 there were people in the early 90's and late 80's saying "Black people shouldn't rap, rap isnt even music."