´´We not Black like them...´´BLACK-LATINOS COONING AT BEST.

[Purr]

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

 

[waterproof]

I don't think this is cooning. Black latinos simply don't identify with African Americans in a lot of cases. They don't have to. They don't have to feel any loyalties towards us just like we don't have to feel that way towards them. You would think we could all come together, but all African Americans can't even see eye to eye. So why would we expect to automatically get along with another completely different group of blacks?

They don't have to? They share the same damn blood and came from the same damn country. We are not talking about identifying with the so called Negro of North America we talking about Identifying with the blood that runs through their veins it's Mamma Africa

 

[fuc_i_look_like]

I used 2 know this Dominican chick who stayed hollering about how she's Dominican. Funny thing is, she looked like a regular Black chick so she prolly overcompensated by constantly talking bout her background. I've met plenty of other Black Hispanics with similar weirdo mindsets, so I really dont fuck w/ Hispanic broads at all.

That doesnt necessarily mean she dislikes being black or doesnt like black people. She just loves being Dominican

Ehh not really, i didnt really go into it on my earlier post. But she was the type to outright get offended and rude if someone was to refer to her as "Black". So no, this went a lot deeper than her just loving being Dominican.

 

[Ubuntu1]

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

According to DNA testing (and genealogists like Henry Louis Gates Jr. have argued that this is a common misconception. I don't know if this is also the case with white Americans who claim Native ancestry) most black Americans don't have Native American ancestry. Also, I've read that it was actually Malcolm X who coined the term 'African-American', despite it being popularized by Jackson. Before his death he was definitely using the term 'Afro-American' (I don't know if it was used prior to his Organization of Afro-American Unity) and the two are interchangeable ('Afro' is a prefix for 'African').

Having reread your post (and I've heard this argument before), I don't understand the rationale behind someone who is predominately of African descent not identifying as African-American because they also have some European or non-African ancestry. With that reasoning, why would they still identify as black 'instead' of multi-racial (quotations because being mixed does not negate being black, in my opinion. Mixed isn't a distinct category, it's a combination of distinct categories)? You can be black despite having some non-black ancestry but you're not African because you have *some* non-African ancestry? I understand not identifying as African-American because black Americans aren't culturally African and have a 'new', distinct ethnicity that originated in the American South but I also understand the counter that black Americans are ethnically African despite the U.S being their home and the birthplace of their culture in the same way that someone born in the U.S to Korean or Indian parents will still be considered ethnically Korean or Punjabi etc. despite being Americans. It seems subjective to me and I'm sympathetic to both views. 'Black American' seems more widely accepted and less controversial than 'African American' so I tend to use that.

@DOwn (I can't copy and paste anymore) they claimed that the Hutu had non-black ancestry but not European.

 

[GunTown]

I told u Latinos are the most racist people

 

[alliknowishate]

they black....just not in the sense that their "american" blacks. im pretty sure if i go to africa theyll say the same about me. hell obama is black but he aint american black. if you get my drift

 

[Purr]

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

According to DNA testing (and genealogists like Henry Louis Gates Jr. have argued that this is a common misconception. I don't know if this is also the case with white Americans who claim Native ancestry) most black Americans don't have Native American ancestry. Also, I've read that it was actually Malcolm X who coined the term 'African-American', despite it being popularized by Jackson. Before his death he was definitely using the term 'Afro-American' (I don't know if it was used prior to his Organization of Afro-American Unity) and the two are interchangeable ('Afro' is a prefix for 'African').

Having reread your post (and I've heard this argument before), I don't understand the rationale behind someone who is predominately of African descent not identifying as African-American because they also have some European or non-African ancestry. With that reasoning, why would they still identify as black 'instead' of multi-racial (quotations because being mixed does not negate being black, in my opinion. Mixed isn't a distinct category, it's a combination of distinct categories)? You can be black despite having some non-black ancestry but you're not African because you have *some* non-African ancestry? I understand not identifying as African-American because black Americans aren't culturally African and have a 'new', distinct ethnicity that originated in the American South but I also understand the counter that black Americans are ethnically African despite the U.S being their home and the birthplace of their culture in the same way that someone born in the U.S to Korean or Indian parents will still be considered ethnically Korean or Punjabi etc. despite being Americans. It seems subjective to me and I'm sympathetic to both views. 'Black American' seems more widely accepted and less controversial than 'African American' so I tend to use that.

@DOwn (I can't copy and paste anymore) they claimed that the Hutu had non-black ancestry but not European.

@Ubuntu1 i read what you have stated. I am speaking of stuart hall/fanon/Sartre/Yancy & ahmed theories of the racial phenomenon, which includes the sublime of anti blackness based on edwards theory of the dark sublime, the white gaze created by fanon -- modernized by yancy and adapted by Sartre, the social structure and orentation of racial identity based on hall's and ahmed's theory on the oncology phenomenon of race.

I never stated all black americans are of native ancestry, but some has it. There was huge European influence in black culture due to Black English being the only language/dialect closest to Old English. Plus, due to the western and central african cultural influence that was blended into one from many different African countries doesnt mean that a person is african because each culture is different, which created a hybrid of culture within one racial, cultural, and ethnic group called: Black Americans.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

I used 2 know this Dominican chick who stayed hollering about how she's Dominican. Funny thing is, she looked like a regular Black chick so she prolly overcompensated by constantly talking bout her background. I've met plenty of other Black Hispanics with similar weirdo mindsets, so I really dont fuck w/ Hispanic broads at all.

That doesnt necessarily mean she dislikes being black or doesnt like black people. She just loves being Dominican

Ehh not really, i didnt really go into it on my earlier post. But she was the type to outright get offended and rude if someone was to refer to her as "Black". So no, this went a lot deeper than her just loving being Dominican.

oh ok you didn't specifify

 

[StillFaggyAF]

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

According to DNA testing (and genealogists like Henry Louis Gates Jr. have argued that this is a common misconception. I don't know if this is also the case with white Americans who claim Native ancestry) most black Americans don't have Native American ancestry. Also, I've read that it was actually Malcolm X who coined the term 'African-American', despite it being popularized by Jackson. Before his death he was definitely using the term 'Afro-American' (I don't know if it was used prior to his Organization of Afro-American Unity) and the two are interchangeable ('Afro' is a prefix for 'African').

Having reread your post (and I've heard this argument before), I don't understand the rationale behind someone who is predominately of African descent not identifying as African-American because they also have some European or non-African ancestry. With that reasoning, why would they still identify as black 'instead' of multi-racial (quotations because being mixed does not negate being black, in my opinion. Mixed isn't a distinct category, it's a combination of distinct categories)? You can be black despite having some non-black ancestry but you're not African because you have *some* non-African ancestry? I understand not identifying as African-American because black Americans aren't culturally African and have a 'new', distinct ethnicity that originated in the American South but I also understand the counter that black Americans are ethnically African despite the U.S being their home and the birthplace of their culture in the same way that someone born in the U.S to Korean or Indian parents will still be considered ethnically Korean or Punjabi etc. despite being Americans. It seems subjective to me and I'm sympathetic to both views. 'Black American' seems more widely accepted and less controversial than 'African American' so I tend to use that.

@DOwn (I can't copy and paste anymore) they claimed that the Hutu had non-black ancestry but not European.

@Ubuntu1 i read what you have stated. I am speaking of stuart hall/fanon/Sartre/Yancy & ahmed theories of the racial phenomenon, which includes the sublime of anti blackness based on edwards theory of the dark sublime, the white gaze created by fanon -- modernized by yancy and adapted by Sartre, the social structure and orentation of racial identity based on hall's and ahmed's theory on the oncology phenomenon of race.

I never stated all black americans are of native ancestry, but some has it. There was huge European influence in black culture due to Black English being the only language/dialect closest to Old English. Plus, due to the western and central african cultural influence that was blended into one from many different African countries doesnt mean that a person is african because each culture is different, which created a hybrid of culture within one racial, cultural, and ethnic group called: Black Americans.

Bajan is closer to English than "Ebonics"

 

[Purr]

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

According to DNA testing (and genealogists like Henry Louis Gates Jr. have argued that this is a common misconception. I don't know if this is also the case with white Americans who claim Native ancestry) most black Americans don't have Native American ancestry. Also, I've read that it was actually Malcolm X who coined the term 'African-American', despite it being popularized by Jackson. Before his death he was definitely using the term 'Afro-American' (I don't know if it was used prior to his Organization of Afro-American Unity) and the two are interchangeable ('Afro' is a prefix for 'African').

Having reread your post (and I've heard this argument before), I don't understand the rationale behind someone who is predominately of African descent not identifying as African-American because they also have some European or non-African ancestry. With that reasoning, why would they still identify as black 'instead' of multi-racial (quotations because being mixed does not negate being black, in my opinion. Mixed isn't a distinct category, it's a combination of distinct categories)? You can be black despite having some non-black ancestry but you're not African because you have *some* non-African ancestry? I understand not identifying as African-American because black Americans aren't culturally African and have a 'new', distinct ethnicity that originated in the American South but I also understand the counter that black Americans are ethnically African despite the U.S being their home and the birthplace of their culture in the same way that someone born in the U.S to Korean or Indian parents will still be considered ethnically Korean or Punjabi etc. despite being Americans. It seems subjective to me and I'm sympathetic to both views. 'Black American' seems more widely accepted and less controversial than 'African American' so I tend to use that.

@DOwn (I can't copy and paste anymore) they claimed that the Hutu had non-black ancestry but not European.

@Ubuntu1 i read what you have stated. I am speaking of stuart hall/fanon/Sartre/Yancy & ahmed theories of the racial phenomenon, which includes the sublime of anti blackness based on edwards theory of the dark sublime, the white gaze created by fanon -- modernized by yancy and adapted by Sartre, the social structure and orentation of racial identity based on hall's and ahmed's theory on the oncology phenomenon of race.

I never stated all black americans are of native ancestry, but some has it. There was huge European influence in black culture due to Black English being the only language/dialect closest to Old English. Plus, due to the western and central african cultural influence that was blended into one from many different African countries doesnt mean that a person is african because each culture is different, which created a hybrid of culture within one racial, cultural, and ethnic group called: Black Americans.

Bajan is closer to English than "Ebonics"

@aggyaf no. Stop it. You dont know shit bout linguistics pertaining to black english and old english. Please sit on a topic that you do not know about. Plus, no one says ebonics in the linguistics world.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

The word black is used as a racial orientation for the pod of black Americans.

Some Black Americans do not consider themselves African-American, which was coined by Jesse Jackson. Because our roots are from many different African cultures, native culture and European influence.

So, to painly put, black amercians do not see others as black because of our interesting culture and ethnicity.

Black is our cultural, racial and ethnicity identification.

Others are able to say, racially i am black but ethnically i am Peruvian/Cuban/Colombian/ Jamaican and etc.

According to DNA testing (and genealogists like Henry Louis Gates Jr. have argued that this is a common misconception. I don't know if this is also the case with white Americans who claim Native ancestry) most black Americans don't have Native American ancestry. Also, I've read that it was actually Malcolm X who coined the term 'African-American', despite it being popularized by Jackson. Before his death he was definitely using the term 'Afro-American' (I don't know if it was used prior to his Organization of Afro-American Unity) and the two are interchangeable ('Afro' is a prefix for 'African').

Having reread your post (and I've heard this argument before), I don't understand the rationale behind someone who is predominately of African descent not identifying as African-American because they also have some European or non-African ancestry. With that reasoning, why would they still identify as black 'instead' of multi-racial (quotations because being mixed does not negate being black, in my opinion. Mixed isn't a distinct category, it's a combination of distinct categories)? You can be black despite having some non-black ancestry but you're not African because you have *some* non-African ancestry? I understand not identifying as African-American because black Americans aren't culturally African and have a 'new', distinct ethnicity that originated in the American South but I also understand the counter that black Americans are ethnically African despite the U.S being their home and the birthplace of their culture in the same way that someone born in the U.S to Korean or Indian parents will still be considered ethnically Korean or Punjabi etc. despite being Americans. It seems subjective to me and I'm sympathetic to both views. 'Black American' seems more widely accepted and less controversial than 'African American' so I tend to use that.

@DOwn (I can't copy and paste anymore) they claimed that the Hutu had non-black ancestry but not European.

@Ubuntu1 i read what you have stated. I am speaking of stuart hall/fanon/Sartre/Yancy & ahmed theories of the racial phenomenon, which includes the sublime of anti blackness based on edwards theory of the dark sublime, the white gaze created by fanon -- modernized by yancy and adapted by Sartre, the social structure and orentation of racial identity based on hall's and ahmed's theory on the oncology phenomenon of race.

I never stated all black americans are of native ancestry, but some has it. There was huge European influence in black culture due to Black English being the only language/dialect closest to Old English. Plus, due to the western and central african cultural influence that was blended into one from many different African countries doesnt mean that a person is african because each culture is different, which created a hybrid of culture within one racial, cultural, and ethnic group called: Black Americans.

Bajan is closer to English than "Ebonics"

@aggyaf no. Stop it. You dont know shit bout linguistics pertaining to black english and old english. Please sit on a topic that you do not know about. Plus, no one says ebonics in the linguistics world.

Do you eeven know anything about barbados?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I don't think this is cooning. Black latinos simply don't identify with African Americans in a lot of cases. They don't have to. They don't have to feel any loyalties towards us just like we don't have to feel that way towards them. You would think we could all come together, but all African Americans can't even see eye to eye. So why would we expect to automatically get along with another completely different group of blacks?

They don't have to? They share the same damn blood and came from the same damn country. We are not talking about identifying with the so called Negro of North America we talking about Identifying with the blood that runs through their veins it's Mamma Africa

But the bold is exactly what we are talking about, or what we were originally talking about. A lot of Black Latins don't identify with African Americans and that's what they mean when they say they aren't Black like us. They aren't denying their African heritage. They are just making sure that they aren't confused with us. I'm not going to get mad at them for that. They don't have to identify with us, the same way I don't have to identify with them.

 

[lilteencreole]

I prefer the Dominican way of thinking. Sure, they can be some serious coons and self-haters but it's better than thinking anyone with a drop of black blood, even as minuscule as 1/32 is "BLACK!!!" and if they try to say different they're denying their black blood and hating on themselves.

I feel like the wisest way to go about racial classification is through phenotypes and skin coloring, since about 2/3 of racial classification is a social construction anyway.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

One of the problems is lack of culture.

most people identify their nationality with culture...

i have also been saying puerto rican dont associate with being black.

niggas keep telling me i am wrong...

i was deep in the island and experienced it.

if you aint trinidad or tego...you are not puerto rican...you are black or negro.