´´We not Black like them...´´BLACK-LATINOS COONING AT BEST.

[h8rhurta]

I remenber like yesterday...More than ten years ago my Dominican co-worker made a absurd claim that African Americans are Blacks and that the other darkskinned people were not black.I was like

hen

Then it just turned into a full smh.

I asked him what he ment and he coulnd´t explain. I looked around like...Is this nigga serious...Nigga looked like ?uestlove from the roots.Dark as a mu-fucker.I felt like I was in a white moment when they talk shit about black people in there absents.Shit is sad as fuck.That´s why I don´t fuck with no boriqua or moreno.Nigga I´m BLACK.

Should have told him that the boat stopped there first before it got here!

 

[StillFaggyAF]

The root of it is that Black Americans have this convoluted habit of equating "Black" and "African-American" .

"African-American" is a useless,seneless, bullshit stupid retarded term that needs to be killed, buried, dug-up, and then killed again.

Blacks in the western hemisphere need to realize that they all have identical historical ties that transcend national origin. A Black person from America has more common interests with a Black person from Jamaica then a Black person from America has with a white person from America. They have the same struggle if not worse in Brazil, in Peru, in Panama etc…the shit is the same.

In Africa they have hundreds ethnicities : Yoruba , Hausa, Fang etc

As Black Diasporics we have lost connection to our original tribes/ethnicities and cultures…so we should all identify with our "Diasporicness" more than anything. "Black Diasporic" is our true modern-day ethnicity.

Dominicans are a different story…they got their own fucked up history and identity.

I agree amd disagree. While i believe that all on the diasporashould work together and realize our similarities, we must also recognize our distinct ethnicities. Theres nothing wrong with being proud to be Jamaican or Afram or Panamanian or Brazilian

 

[A Talented One]

Basically lots of members of black groups from outside of America think they can rise in America by shitting on American born Blacks

Why'd this get flagged? That's literally part of how Asians, Jews, Irish, Italians, Poles, etc came up in this country. They assimilated to American life by adopting good ol' fashioned American racism. Signs that originally read "No Irish, No Jews, No Coloreds" were reduced to just "No Coloreds". Went from being lynched themselves to joining the lynch mob. "Progress" is a funny thing.

I've read Mafia books and they agree one of the biggest reasons La Cosa Nostra declined in this country is simply assimilation. Once italian-americans had real economic opportunity, they didn't NEED the Mafia anymore. The smart ones could become doctors and lawyers until all that was left for the Mafia's talent pool was a bunch of dumbasses. I imagine it was a similar story for the old Irish and Jewish mafias.

How you just going quote just that sentence and ask why it got flagged? That's not the part of the post that I flagged.

 

[Stiff]

The root of it is that Black Americans have this convoluted habit of equating "Black" and "African-American" .

"African-American" is a useless,seneless, bullshit stupid retarded term that needs to be killed, buried, dug-up, and then killed again.

Blacks in the western hemisphere need to realize that they all have identical historical ties that transcend national origin. A Black person from America has more common interests with a Black person from Jamaica then a Black person from America has with a white person from America. They have the same struggle if not worse in Brazil, in Peru, in Panama etc…the shit is the same.

In Africa they have hundreds ethnicities : Yoruba , Hausa, Fang etc

As Black Diasporics we have lost connection to our original tribes/ethnicities and cultures…so we should all identify with our "Diasporicness" more than anything. "Black Diasporic" is our true modern-day ethnicity.

Dominicans are a different story…they got their own fucked up history and identity.

I agree amd disagree. While i believe that all on the diasporashould work together and realize our similarities, we must also recognize our distinct ethnicities. Theres nothing wrong with being proud to be Jamaican or Afram or Panamanian or Brazilian

There are no "distinct ethnicities" tho..we have different nationalities that result in some cultural differences.

And im not saying there's anything wrong with being proud about what country you're from..my thing is be proud but also recognize that if the slave ship had gone left instead of right you wouldn't be from that country.

 

[Knives Amilli]

there are two places on Earth that primarily identify people based on skin color rather than ethnicity/regional origin.

Those two places are the United States and Brazil.

It also no coincidence that the USA and Brazil were the two largest African Slave importers in the world as well.

@Cabana_Da_Don your homelands origins and feelings about race are much more similar to Americas than the Caribbean Latinos hence your increased solidarity with American Blacks. Caribbean Latinos see themselves as countrymen first (puerto riqueno, domincano, cubano, etc.), HISPANIC second, with very few of them even considering their African origins.

I dont think its out of a "Reject Blackness to get along with Whitey!!" mindstate.....I think its because of their desire for ethnic and national identity (which is more of a byproduct of colonialism than anything). However because of the sheer power of racism, many of these people will adopt the West's hatred of American Blacks despite many of them sharing common ancestry with American Blacks.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

The root of it is that Black Americans have this convoluted habit of equating "Black" and "African-American" .

"African-American" is a useless,seneless, bullshit stupid retarded term that needs to be killed, buried, dug-up, and then killed again.

Blacks in the western hemisphere need to realize that they all have identical historical ties that transcend national origin. A Black person from America has more common interests with a Black person from Jamaica then a Black person from America has with a white person from America. They have the same struggle if not worse in Brazil, in Peru, in Panama etc…the shit is the same.

In Africa they have hundreds ethnicities : Yoruba , Hausa, Fang etc

As Black Diasporics we have lost connection to our original tribes/ethnicities and cultures…so we should all identify with our "Diasporicness" more than anything. "Black Diasporic" is our true modern-day ethnicity.

Dominicans are a different story…they got their own fucked up history and identity.

I agree amd disagree. While i believe that all on the diasporashould work together and realize our similarities, we must also recognize our distinct ethnicities. Theres nothing wrong with being proud to be Jamaican or Afram or Panamanian or Brazilian

There are no "distinct ethnicities" tho..we have different nationalities that result in some cultural differences.

And im not saying there's anything wrong with being proud about what country you're from..my thing is be proud but also recognize that if the slave ship had gone left instead of right you wouldn't be from that country.

yes there is. I guarantee you go hang with some Garifunas or Ouerto Ricans or Brazilians and youll see how African-American you are. We're all black but there are linguistic, historically and culturally differences. Putting everyone into one "black diaspora "category doesnt help just like assuming all of Africa is the same doesn't help

 

[J-GUTTA]

I dont think its out of a "Reject Blackness to get along with Whitey!!" mindstate.....I think its because of their desire for ethnic and national identity (which is more of a byproduct of colonialism than anything). However because of the sheer power of racism, many of these people will adopt the West's hatred of American Blacks despite many of them sharing common ancestry with American Blacks.

You have to understand that a lot of foreigners exposure to Black Americans is from the news which we all know is the worse or the worse of both Latin and Blacks. So they come to this country already with preconceived notions of Black Americans. There are many that are more intelligent than that and don't judge before they actually know a person.

National pride is huge in Latin American and the one common denominator in this country is the Language. So that's the whole Latin pride thing in this country. Even Black Americans experience it with Latinos too when a Black American speaks to them in Spanish all of a sudden they act like your best friend.

 

[S2J]

Oh yea, they all think like this

Which is why the whole 'omg there's black people from all over', race vs ethnicity, 'Africans weren't the only slaves' etc debate is bullshit

Also why you NY nggas are thots for thinking 'papi' n em are your brothers in the struggle, lettin them call you nigga

 

[nujerz84]

The root of it is that Black Americans have this convoluted habit of equating "Black" and "African-American" .

"African-American" is a useless,seneless, bullshit stupid retarded term that needs to be killed, buried, dug-up, and then killed again.

Blacks in the western hemisphere need to realize that they all have identical historical ties that transcend national origin. A Black person from America has more common interests with a Black person from Jamaica then a Black person from America has with a white person from America. They have the same struggle if not worse in Brazil, in Peru, in Panama etc…the shit is the same.

In Africa they have hundreds ethnicities : Yoruba , Hausa, Fang etc

As Black Diasporics we have lost connection to our original tribes/ethnicities and cultures…so we should all identify with our "Diasporicness" more than anything. "Black Diasporic" is our true modern-day ethnicity.

Dominicans are a different story…they got their own fucked up history and identity.

I agree amd disagree. While i believe that all on the diasporashould work together and realize our similarities, we must also recognize our distinct ethnicities. Theres nothing wrong with being proud to be Jamaican or Afram or Panamanian or Brazilian

There are no "distinct ethnicities" tho..we have different nationalities that result in some cultural differences.

And im not saying there's anything wrong with being proud about what country you're from..my thing is be proud but also recognize that if the slave ship had gone left instead of right you wouldn't be from that country.

yes there is. I guarantee you go hang with some Garifunas or Ouerto Ricans or Brazilians and youll see how African-American you are. We're all black but there are linguistic, historically and culturally differences. Putting everyone into one "black diaspora "category doesnt help just like assuming all of Africa is the same doesn't help

Pretty much

 

[Garv*]

Don't group latinos with Africans and blacks from the Carribean(Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad etc), smh. Africans in Africa adore black American culture and black Americans to a worrying standard, and the black issue isn't an issue, in a continent where the majority is black. I've never heard an African or Jamaican say they were not black.

These Dominicans Puerto ricans on the other hand.....

A coon is a coon is a coon.

 

[A Talented One]

Don't group latinos with Africans and blacks from the Carribean(Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad etc), smh. Africans in Africa adore black American culture and black Americans to a worrying standard, and the black issue isn't an issue, in a continent where the majority is black. I've never heard an African or Jamaican say they were not black.

These Dominicans Puerto ricans on the other hand.....

A coon is a coon is a coon.

Mostly agree.

It seems that some Somalis (a minority) don't identity as black.

Also, although they identify as black, a lot of Caribbean blacks have self-hate issues, especially the ones from places like London and Toronto.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Don't group latinos with Africans and blacks from the Carribean(Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad etc), smh. Africans in Africa adore black American culture and black Americans to a worrying standard, and the black issue isn't an issue, in a continent where the majority is black. I've never heard an African or Jamaican say they were not black.

These Dominicans Puerto ricans on the other hand.....

A coon is a coon is a coon.

Mostly agree.

It seems that some Somalis (a minority) don't identity as black.

Also, although they identify as black, a lot of Caribbean blacks have self-hate issues, especially the ones from places like London and Toronto.

yeah cuz half of them are mixed breeds. Caribbeans from the Caribbean and the US aren't with that coon shit

 

[Ubuntu1]

Don't group latinos with Africans and blacks from the Carribean(Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad etc), smh. Africans in Africa adore black American culture and black Americans to a worrying standard, and the black issue isn't an issue, in a continent where the majority is black. I've never heard an African or Jamaican say they were not black.

These Dominicans Puerto ricans on the other hand.....

A coon is a coon is a coon.

I think this is generally true (first bold) and neither have I (second bold).

The issue isn't complicated. Some black Latinos identify as black/of African descent and some do not. Everyone knows this is true, some people just downplay the exceptions to what they perceive as 'the rule' and regard the black Latino's who do confirm their stereotypes about them as the 'true' representatives of their group. It's always possible that most black Latinos don't identify as black, or that they're less likely to than either other black immigrants in the U.S or 'native' black Americans, and that the stereotypes about them are generally true but if some black Latinos contradict this, what should it matter when dealing with those specific individuals? They are as much Afro-Latino as the ones who fit the norm.

I don't understand why the concept of race vs. ethnicity is so difficult to grasp or why some people act as though all Latinos are of African descent. Many white Southerners (around 1/5th of them, apparently) have some African ancestry and nobody talks about 'Southerners denying their black roots'. Off-topic, I wonder how much African influence black slaves had on mainstream Southern culture. It would be interesting to read about that, if anyone could enlighten me.

 

[blackrain]

Don't group latinos with Africans and blacks from the Carribean(Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad etc), smh. Africans in Africa adore black American culture and black Americans to a worrying standard, and the black issue isn't an issue, in a continent where the majority is black. I've never heard an African or Jamaican say they were not black.

These Dominicans Puerto ricans on the other hand.....

A coon is a coon is a coon.

And plenty of Latinos also are proud and promote the African elements of latino culture that are clear as day. Even the way we speak spanish is influenced by the African dialects sti spoken in some Latin American countries. How you gonna say dint group black folks with other black folks? This they lack of knowledge I was talking about earlier

 

[A Talented One]

Don't group latinos with Africans and blacks from the Carribean(Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad etc), smh. Africans in Africa adore black American culture and black Americans to a worrying standard, and the black issue isn't an issue, in a continent where the majority is black. I've never heard an African or Jamaican say they were not black.

These Dominicans Puerto ricans on the other hand.....

A coon is a coon is a coon.

Mostly agree.

It seems that some Somalis (a minority) don't identity as black.

Also, although they identify as black, a lot of Caribbean blacks have self-hate issues, especially the ones from places like London and Toronto.

yeah cuz half of them are mixed breeds. Caribbeans from the Caribbean and the US aren't with that coon shit

I'm not mainly talking about mixed breeds, and no where near half of Caribbean blacks in Toronto are mixed breeds.

 

[J-GUTTA]

Don't group latinos with Africans and blacks from the Carribean(Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad etc), smh. Africans in Africa adore black American culture and black Americans to a worrying standard, and the black issue isn't an issue, in a continent where the majority is black. I've never heard an African or Jamaican say they were not black.

These Dominicans Puerto ricans on the other hand.....

A coon is a coon is a coon.

And plenty of Latinos also are proud and promote the African elements of latino culture that are clear as day. Even the way we speak spanish is influenced by the African dialects sti spoken in some Latin American countries. How you gonna say dint group black folks with other black folks? This they lack of knowledge I was talking about earlier

You and I know you can actually go into the Black communities in Latin America and still hear African dialects, see heavily influenced African festivals. Shit even when you buy souvenirs there are items that are referred to as African.

Not to say Latin American is some sort of fuckin racial paradise because you still have your ignorant fucks.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Don't group latinos with Africans and blacks from the Carribean(Jamaica, Grenada, Trinidad etc), smh. Africans in Africa adore black American culture and black Americans to a worrying standard, and the black issue isn't an issue, in a continent where the majority is black. I've never heard an African or Jamaican say they were not black.

These Dominicans Puerto ricans on the other hand.....

A coon is a coon is a coon.

And plenty of Latinos also are proud and promote the African elements of latino culture that are clear as day. Even the way we speak spanish is influenced by the African dialects sti spoken in some Latin American countries. How you gonna say dint group black folks with other black folks? This they lack of knowledge I was talking about earlier

You and I know you can actually go into the Black communities in Latin America and still hear African dialects, see heavily influenced African festivals. Shit even when you buy souvenirs there are items that are referred to as African.

Not to say Latin American is some sort of fuckin racial paradise because you still have your ignorant fucks.

Lol i know ppl that go to DR Jamaica and Haiti and buy artwork from the country people andthen go sell it as "African art" in the US for a lot of money lol

 

[Stiff]

The root of it is that Black Americans have this convoluted habit of equating "Black" and "African-American" .

"African-American" is a useless,seneless, bullshit stupid retarded term that needs to be killed, buried, dug-up, and then killed again.

Blacks in the western hemisphere need to realize that they all have identical historical ties that transcend national origin. A Black person from America has more common interests with a Black person from Jamaica then a Black person from America has with a white person from America. They have the same struggle if not worse in Brazil, in Peru, in Panama etc…the shit is the same.

In Africa they have hundreds ethnicities : Yoruba , Hausa, Fang etc

As Black Diasporics we have lost connection to our original tribes/ethnicities and cultures…so we should all identify with our "Diasporicness" more than anything. "Black Diasporic" is our true modern-day ethnicity.

Dominicans are a different story…they got their own fucked up history and identity.

I agree amd disagree. While i believe that all on the diasporashould work together and realize our similarities, we must also recognize our distinct ethnicities. Theres nothing wrong with being proud to be Jamaican or Afram or Panamanian or Brazilian

There are no "distinct ethnicities" tho..we have different nationalities that result in some cultural differences.

And im not saying there's anything wrong with being proud about what country you're from..my thing is be proud but also recognize that if the slave ship had gone left instead of right you wouldn't be from that country.

yes there is. I guarantee you go hang with some Garifunas or Ouerto Ricans or Brazilians and youll see how African-American you are. We're all black but there are linguistic, historically and culturally differences. Putting everyone into one "black diaspora "category doesnt help just like assuming all of Africa is the same doesn't help

You don't see the value in unity and cooperation among oppressed peoples of varying national origins with similar histories?

 

[StillFaggyAF]

The root of it is that Black Americans have this convoluted habit of equating "Black" and "African-American" .

"African-American" is a useless,seneless, bullshit stupid retarded term that needs to be killed, buried, dug-up, and then killed again.

Blacks in the western hemisphere need to realize that they all have identical historical ties that transcend national origin. A Black person from America has more common interests with a Black person from Jamaica then a Black person from America has with a white person from America. They have the same struggle if not worse in Brazil, in Peru, in Panama etc…the shit is the same.

In Africa they have hundreds ethnicities : Yoruba , Hausa, Fang etc

As Black Diasporics we have lost connection to our original tribes/ethnicities and cultures…so we should all identify with our "Diasporicness" more than anything. "Black Diasporic" is our true modern-day ethnicity.

Dominicans are a different story…they got their own fucked up history and identity.

I agree amd disagree. While i believe that all on the diasporashould work together and realize our similarities, we must also recognize our distinct ethnicities. Theres nothing wrong with being proud to be Jamaican or Afram or Panamanian or Brazilian

There are no "distinct ethnicities" tho..we have different nationalities that result in some cultural differences.

And im not saying there's anything wrong with being proud about what country you're from..my thing is be proud but also recognize that if the slave ship had gone left instead of right you wouldn't be from that country.

yes there is. I guarantee you go hang with some Garifunas or Ouerto Ricans or Brazilians and youll see how African-American you are. We're all black but there are linguistic, historically and culturally differences. Putting everyone into one "black diaspora "category doesnt help just like assuming all of Africa is the same doesn't help

You don't see the value in unity and cooperation among oppressed peoples of varying national origins with similar histories?

Theres a difference between unity and cooperation and what you said which was disregarding the various ethnicities and cultures present among afro descendants in the americas

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Basically lots of members of black groups from outside of America think they can rise in America by shitting on American born Blacks

Why'd this get flagged? That's literally part of how Asians, Jews, Irish, Italians, Poles, etc came up in this country. They assimilated to American life by adopting good ol' fashioned American racism. Signs that originally read "No Irish, No Jews, No Coloreds" were reduced to just "No Coloreds". Went from being lynched themselves to joining the lynch mob. "Progress" is a funny thing.

I've read Mafia books and they agree one of the biggest reasons La Cosa Nostra declined in this country is simply assimilation. Once italian-americans had real economic opportunity, they didn't NEED the Mafia anymore. The smart ones could become doctors and lawyers until all that was left for the Mafia's talent pool was a bunch of dumbasses. I imagine it was a similar story for the old Irish and Jewish mafias.

Exactly. It's not like I said every non-AA black feels that way, but a lot of them do. That's a fact, and the ones that do aren't even shy about it. I used to tutor a lot of high school and colleges students and most of the immigrants would pretty freely admit that their families felt that way when it came to African Americans. Hell, this one Ethiopian chick was basically disowned from her fam for dating an AA dude. That's some shit you usually only hear coming from nonblacks, but the truth is a lot of foreign blacks think the same way when it comes to AAs.