Virginia declares April Confederate History Month....cr@ckas are going too far now

[_Ozymandias_]

How is that any different than pledging allegiance to the American flag everyday? lol People act like the American flag and Confederate flag are completely different constitutions. It's like Rat poison vs a Mouse Trap. Both were meant for killing rodents but one is less brutal/obvious about it than the other. We better start waking up and smelling the roses... Let them be obvious about it, that way there will be no more excuses when we point the finger, they wont be able to say shit if they make it obvious.

so when they do make it obvious what are we suppose to do next? just say ok, and let them do it or are we suppose to point it out and fight against it?

i'm not disagreeing with anyone in this thread that points out they hypocrisy of the union and american history in general. it just seems like you're making the point that because we have a racist history in this country we should just ignore racists acts like celebrating "confederate history month".

 

[Chike]

so when they do make it obvious what are we suppose to do next? just say ok, and let them do it or are we suppose to point it out and fight against it?

i'm not disagreeing with anyone in this thread that points out they hypocrisy of the union and american history in general. it just seems like you're making the point that because we have a racist history in this country we should just ignore racists acts like celebrating "confederate history month".

I'll go with the bold. Would you rather them be sneaky and not know who you're dealing with, or would you rather them take off the mask and expose themselves to better know your enemy?

 

[_Ozymandias_]

I'll go with the bold. Would you rather them be sneaky and not know who you're dealing with, or would you rather them take off the mask and expose themselves to better know your enemy?

first they're hardly ever sneaky with it. plenty of people (Limbaugh, Beck, etc) constantly support blatant racism. the problem isn't them being sneaky. the problem is we let it happen. and what's worse is we actually make excuses for them and even support it. i didn't need a conservative governor from virginia to declare a "confederacy history month", while purposely leaving out any mention of slavery, to know that there are people in power in this country that are racist.

regardless, my whole point has been this governor is pushing a racist agenda, and to pretend that it's not is foolish.

my question is, are you arguing that a governor choosing to declare a month to celebrate an institution whose ONLY reason for existing was to keep a whole race of people enslaved is a positive thing?

 

[Chike]

first they're hardly ever sneaky with it. plenty of people (Limbaugh, Beck, etc) constantly support blatant racism. the problem isn't them being sneaky. the problem is we let it happen. and what's worse is we actually make excuses for them and even support it. i didn't need a conservative governor from virginia to declare a "confederacy history month", while purposely leaving out any mention of slavery, to know that there are people in power in this country that are racist.

regardless, my whole point has been this governor is pushing a racist agenda, and to pretend that it's not is foolish.

my question is, are you arguing that a governor choosing to declare a month to celebrate an institution whose ONLY reason for existing was to keep a whole race of people enslaved is a 2)positive thing?

Right, people like you and I don't, but many other people are fuckin confused when we call these racists devils out on their shit. "Like omg slavery was over a hundred years ago, get over it!"

 

[And Step]

all these words, and yet you don't seem to understand the definition of the word "racism"

There are actually many definitions and he actually is dead spot on. The generic term you seem to be reaching for is but one of many definitions.

 

[duckmanpig]

I wonder how john mccain feels?

 

[janklow]

Who defined the word "racism"...a europeon??

the foundation of debate is for us to use an agreed-upon vocabulary. the only word i hear you debate the meaning of is "racism," and then it's done only in a manner convenient for your argument.

now, you could say "hey, i'm racist, but given the fact that i lack the power to act in the manner white racists can, my racism pales in comparison to theirs." but for some reason --and it's odd, because you wear your racism proudly and will endlessly speak of the justifications for it-- you cannot acknowledge that you meet the definition of the term. you HAVE to alter it.

who defined the word "prejudice," a word you're fine with applying to yourself? what's the difference here?

my definition of Racism is different from 95% of the population

exactly. but let's move on to the weird part of this post:

Your sick obsession with the movie "Live and Let Die" is laughable you always post the Black murder victims of James Bond in your avatar...

really? this is what i ALWAYS do? because i'm pretty sure that Yaphet Kotto there in Homicide wasn't killed by James Bond, even if they did eventually kill him off for that weird movie. however, i'm changing it to a previous subject for the upcoming event this weekend, although he, of course, has also never been a "Black murder victims of James Bond."

... I think its offensive and insensitive that you represent that trash while moderating on a Black website....do your homework.

awww... it's cute the way your feelings are so hurt by my recognition that Geoffrey Holder is a cool guy.

ps. when's the last time you posted about hip-hop while ranting on a hip-hop website?

There are actually many definitions and he actually is dead spot on. The generic term you seem to be reaching for is but one of many definitions.

pull out the average dictionary and tell me with a straight face that his definition is anywhere near the original and/or commonly accepted one. it's an intentionally convenient definition, and really, you know this. because the thing is, racism as defined generally DOESN'T ABSOLVE WHITE RACISM AT ALL.

 

[And Step]

the foundation of debate is for us to use an agreed-upon vocabulary. the only word i hear you debate the meaning of is "racism," and then it's done only in a manner convenient for your argument.

now, you could say "hey, i'm racist, but given the fact that i lack the power to act in the manner white racists can, my racism pales in comparison to theirs." but for some reason --and it's odd, because you wear your racism proudly and will endlessly speak of the justifications for it-- you cannot acknowledge that you meet the definition of the term. you HAVE to alter it.

who defined the word "prejudice," a word you're fine with applying to yourself? what's the difference here?

exactly. but let's move on to the weird part of this post:

really? this is what i ALWAYS do? because i'm pretty sure that Yaphet Kotto there in Homicide wasn't killed by James Bond, even if they did eventually kill him off for that weird movie. however, i'm changing it to a previous subject for the upcoming event this weekend, although he, of course, has also never been a "Black murder victims of James Bond."

awww... it's cute the way your feelings are so hurt by my recognition that Geoffrey Holder is a cool guy.

ps. when's the last time you posted about hip-hop while ranting on a hip-hop website?

pull out the average dictionary and tell me with a straight face that his definition is anywhere near the original and/or commonly accepted one. it's an intentionally convenient definition, and really, you know this. because the thing is, racism as defined generally DOESN'T ABSOLVE WHITE RACISM AT ALL.

There is no general agreed upon definition.Many different dictionary say different things. Wikepedia offoers a definition that is much more close to what hrap said. It has many components that have been defined by periodicals, experts, and laypersons alike. The UN itself is issuing statements on racism defined it as much more multi-faceted than what you are saying.

Some whites try to sidetrack black people by playing petty word games. They would have you believe that Khalid Muhammad was the same as the KKK, just because his words were just as caustic in some instances. Sorry money grip it don't go that way.

Deeds trump words all day ayan day.

 

[Funky Dr]

SMH @ Virginia's governor, and the "sons of the fuckin confederacy"

 

[janklow]

There is no general agreed upon definition. Many different dictionary say different things.

if nothing else, there is the original definition of the term. and these "different dictionaries" are not giving the wildly disagreeing definitions being claimed. but more to the point is this: people don't dispute the common definition until it's inconvenient for their argument. and honestly, i don't see why h-rap argues the definition since he feels his stance is justified.

Some whites try to sidetrack black people by playing petty word games. They would have you believe that Khalid Muhammad was the same as the KKK, just because his words were just as caustic in some instances. Sorry money grip it don't go that way.

again, can you not call them both racist while noting that the latter has been responsible for many more and much worse deeds? it's not like calling them both racist would make them equivalent.

 

[Funky Dr]

Anderson Silva = GOAT

but anyways...

SMH @ People in the north who fly the confederate flag.

 

[kingblaze84]

Anderson Silva = GOAT

but anyways...

SMH @ People in the north who fly the confederate flag.

Whose Anderson Silva?

 

[Madam Speaker]

lol at this

 

[stringer bell]

[video=youtube;oLJ7-p3IkYE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLJ7-p3IkYE[/video]

smdh......

 

[Alkindus]

despite the fact that the other history months are lame azz hell as wel, who cares? when it all comes down to it, your still chillin under the american flag. Which isn't exactly known for its tolerance and non violence lol. If people want to celebrate bullshit let them......if you are going to hate on them because they celebrate fucked up shit maybe you should realize you are looking in the mirror.

 

[maxxb]

Many homosexuals have feminine attributes, such as attention-whoring, and just attention-seeking period....homosexual posters are no different.

I have discovered that the best way to deal with a homosexual poster is to virtually ignore them and deny their existence in order to deprive them of the attention that they desperately seek.

I once had a conversation with a poor gender-confused child, this creature didn't have the testicular fortitude to be a "man" and lacked the physical attributes to be a woman so "it" was hopelessly stuck in the middle....a purgatory of sorts for the children of a lesser GOD.

To make a long story short this Shemale bull-dagger had the nerve to call me a racist, so I calmly told "it" that despite my prejudice it was virtually impossible for me to be "racist"due to me being a non-white person I lacked the power as an individual and my race as a collective to control or influence white people in the areas of (1)Economics, (2)Education, (3)Entertainment, (4)Labor, (5)Law, (6)Politics, (7)Religion, (8)Sex and (9)War.........therefore despite my prejudice towards my oppressor and enemy I could never be "racist".

Chuuuch

you're an uppity stuck up bigot.

 

[maxxb]

No hate is equal to the hate whites have had for other races. Ask yourself why whites have felt the need for hundreds of years to go into other lands and vanquish as many people as possible. White people are called devils by so many people for a reason.....I can't honestly say it is an unjustified name to call them.

Google up what whites did in Australia......the history of white people is truly disgusting the more one does research on it. Of course, whites have done many great things too, in technology and medicines for example. But their evil and hatred for other races is unmatched, read a history book. White people commit genocide for pleasure.....read up on what the French did in Algeria and what the Belgiums did in the Congo.

The history of white people on Earth is sickening, thank God I don't have any white cracker blood in me!

I don't know much about history, so I wont contest it. I dont think white people as a race are inherently evil or racist, though. Thats a gross generalization to compare an entire races history, just to conclude that whites are genetically predisposed to be hateful or racist.

And yet you still return ignorance at the slightest hint of percieved racism?

You call whites crackers at the drop of a hat.

What if I began to reference the atrocities that happened in african conflicts, citing anecdotes and historical evidence to try and prove a bullshit theory about how shitty black people are and then started saying shit like "thank god I have none of that ****** blood in me!"

Hate is hate, there is no level of hate to compare to other races. And there is certainly no less hate in black racists for whites than there is in white racists for blacks.

You hate whites, yet preach against racial injustices.

If the world were controlled by people like you, we'd be in a crazy reverse birmingham 1964.

 

[Funky Dr]

Whose Anderson Silva?

The Brazilian Nightmare

 

[theillestrator]

^^^Yeah, he's a beast.

 

[kingblaze84]

I don't know much about history, so I wont contest it. I dont think white people as a race are inherently evil or racist, though. Thats a gross generalization to compare an entire races history, just to conclude that whites are genetically predisposed to be hateful or racist.

And yet you still return ignorance at the slightest hint of percieved racism?

You call whites crackers at the drop of a hat.

What if I began to reference the atrocities that happened in african conflicts, citing anecdotes and historical evidence to try and prove a bullshit theory about how shitty black people are and then started saying shit like "thank god I have none of that ****** blood in me!"

Hate is hate, there is no level of hate to compare to other races. And there is certainly no less hate in black racists for whites than there is in white racists for blacks.

You hate whites, yet preach against racial injustices.

If the world were controlled by people like you, we'd be in a crazy reverse birmingham 1964.

Maybe I do use the word cracker too much lately....I'll avoid using that word for as long as I can.....but I have no hatred in my heart for anyone. I just can't help but be disgusted at the history of white people sometimes, especially now that Republikklans are praising Confederate history right now. Confederates were the first true domestic terrorists (aside from the first Europeans to land in present day USA), yet their going to have the gall

to celebrate them. Imagine Germany having Nazi History Month....the outrage would be large, obviously.

And you are wrong to say the hate some blacks have for whites is equal to the hate whites have had for blacks. White people have done much more evil stuff to blacks than blacks ever could do. Research the history of Spain, Portugal, Belgium, and England.....and you will see why I use the word cracker so much.