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Alkindus;479749 said:despite the fact that the other history months are lame azz hell as wel, who cares? when it all comes down to it, your still chillin under the american flag. Which isn't exactly known for its tolerance and non violence lol. If people want to celebrate bullshit let them......if you are going to hate on them because they celebrate fucked up shit maybe you should realize you are looking in the mirror.
janklow;475392 said:the foundation of debate is for us to use an agreed-upon vocabulary. the only word i hear you debate the meaning of is "racism," and then it's done only in a manner convenient for your argument.
now, you could say "hey, i'm racist, but given the fact that i lack the power to act in the manner white racists can, my racism pales in comparison to theirs." but for some reason --and it's odd, because you wear your racism proudly and will endlessly speak of the justifications for it-- you cannot acknowledge that you meet the definition of the term. you HAVE to alter it.
who defined the word "prejudice," a word you're fine with applying to yourself? what's the difference here?
exactly. but let's move on to the weird part of this post:
really? this is what i ALWAYS do? because i'm pretty sure that Yaphet Kotto there in Homicide wasn't killed by James Bond, even if they did eventually kill him off for that weird movie. however, i'm changing it to a previous subject for the upcoming event this weekend, although he, of course, has also never been a "Black murder victims of James Bond."
awww... it's cute the way your feelings are so hurt by my recognition that Geoffrey Holder is a cool guy.
ps. when's the last time you posted about hip-hop while ranting on a hip-hop website?
pull out the average dictionary and tell me with a straight face that his definition is anywhere near the original and/or commonly accepted one. it's an intentionally convenient definition, and really, you know this. because the thing is, racism as defined generally DOESN'T ABSOLVE WHITE RACISM AT ALL.
perspective@100;483215 said:LOL...crazy... So were the slaves racist?
Is a racist slave just wrong?
Is it despicable?
Is this reverse racism?
Is the white culture being held back and opressed?
I say blacks do what the jews did, lol>>> shouts out to Janklow,
Funky Dr;481618 said:I wanna see Silva fight the Virginia governor for 1 round at least in the Octagon
look directly to the left of this postkingblaze84;479604 said:Whose Anderson Silva?
in fairness, in the South this is not generally restricted to one partykingblaze84;481617 said:I just can't help but be disgusted at the history of white people sometimes, especially now that Republikklans are praising Confederate history right now.
in summation, you're calling me white and gay, a very mature position to take. but let's be serious here: every time i see you post, it's only about race and/or male genitalia. every post is about white guys, white guys, white guys and dick-chopping.hrap-120;482923 said:LOL I was actually joking...Im flattered that you use numerous Black males in your avatar...its cute that you have a fascination with Black culture, if I was white like you I probably would to....you are smart enough to recognize that there is nothing remotely cool about anything resembling your own images. Your adoration of black males could be deemed homo-erotic by clinical psychologists, but I just consider it proper deference to your cultural fathers and genetic superiors.
actually, i asked when the last time you posted about hip-hop on the site was. all that extra noise really doesn't answer that question.hrap-120;482923 said:You ask when the last time I posted about hiphop while ranting on a hiphop website...everyday of my life, see Im a member of the HipHop community, Im an actual D.J., producer, and artist with multiple networking angles on HipHop website's...
i'm an actual fan of the musical genre and that's why i post on the website. what a shocking twist!hrap-120;482923 said:what are you and why are you here?
sigh. you're too ridiculously angry for me to believe this "i could care less" attitude is real. so either go talk shit about me in the appropriate sub-forum or keep it topical.hrap-120;482923 said:Im not some weirdo white man moderating a non-Hip-Hop sub-forum on a website dedicated to Hip-Hop...my life isn't that pathetic, and if it was I doubt Id have the courage to remain livng as you have.
kingblaze84;481617 said:And you are wrong to say the hate some blacks have for whites is equal to the hate whites have had for blacks. White people have done much more evil stuff to blacks than blacks ever could do. Research the history of Spain, Portugal, Belgium, and England.....and you will see why I use the word cracker so much.
maxxb;485743 said:You turn past atrocities into an issue of race just because they did.
What you're failing to see past is race.
I'm a pretty transcendental person, I think its the people that wrong eachother, it has nothing to do with race. Racists makes racial issues, race should NEVER be an issue with anyone or any matter. It just does not matter at all.
Any has a white person done anything to you personally? Because if so, I can understand why your racism is so prevalent. But the fact that you've probably never had a single truly noticeable injustice put upon you because you're black from a white person should have your mouth shut.
My mom's had a gun to her head, I've had one to mine, my familys been robbed, both my sister's been raped more than once, all from which race? Black people.
But you don't see me running around saying the n word and spewing racist bullshit about how blacks are evil and destroy shit, because I see past race, its a product of society and the evils of the human.
Mr.AllenTemple;485962 said:This shit is all a last ditch effort by the Republicans to save they ass in the '10 & '12 elections. Democrats won NC and VA in the last elections, and the Republicans know
that they cant win it back unless they win those two states....they just trying to get they base riled up....
kingblaze84;481660 said:Good point of course but the Confederate flag was very explicit in that they were fighting for the sake of keeping slavery.....at least the Union made steps to free slaves before the Confederacy did. The Union was not innocent but they were much better than the Confederates.
Alkindus;489317 said:lol this might not be the greatest allusion but that like saying 'oh well I rather support Stalin than Hitler, atleast Stalin didn't focus on follower of one specifik religion'
kingblaze84;489353 said:Well keep in mind that when Lincoln got elected, he promised to stop the spreading of slave states. Lincoln was a racist himself, but at least he admitted slavery was a stain on the nation's soul and reputation. Lincoln campaigned on having slavery be as limited to as few states as possible.....
Meanwhile, the Confederacy wanted slavery to spread. When Lincoln got elected, some states eventually seceded, fearing that Lincoln would try to free their slaves. Lincoln is no hero to me, but he is arguably one of the greatest presidents for the simple fact that he eventually freed slaves in the Confederacy and pledged to stop the spreading of slavery in America.
I think Lincoln and the Union should get at least some respect for that. The Confederates were nothing more than domestic terrorists who eventually became the leaders of the KKK.
Alkindus;489444 said:lol I'm just hating bro
here is some more hate: Stalin defeated Hitler, so atleast he realized the nazi's were not doing good as well.
moral of the story: screw nationalism/celebrating foolish stuf in general
darkone360;485461 said:did anybody see that coon azzz mofo on cnn supportin the confederat month, and pretty much tryin to say that folks loved being slaves??? don lemon shut his azzz down
on the other hand, they have reason to be optimistic after McConnell won in VA; additionally, NC went Democrat, but by a very thin margin: in a state with about 4500000 votes for the office of the presidency, Obama topped McCain by about 14000. this is less votes than Barr got in the state.Mr.AllenTemple;485962 said:Democrats won NC and VA in the last elections, and the Republicans know that they cant win it back unless they win those two states...
The South fought to keep slavery, period
By LEONARD PITTS JR.
lpitts@MiamiHerald.com
e went to war on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause of quarrel than slavery. Men fight from sentiment. After the fight is over they invent some fanciful theory on which they imagine that they fought.'' -- Confederate Col. John Mosby
Ten years ago, I received an e-mail from a reader who signed him or herself ``J.D.'' ``I am a white racist,'' wrote J.D., ``a white supremacist, and I do not deny it.''
From that, you'd suspect J.D. had nothing of value to say. You'd be mistaken. J.D. wrote in response to a column documenting the fact that preservation of slavery was the prime directive of the southern confederacy. ``I was most pleased to see you write what we both know to be the truth,'' the e-mail said. ``I never cease to be amazed at the Sons of Confederate Veterans and similar `heritage not hate' groups who are constantly whining that the Confederacy was not a white, racist government . . .''
That argument, noted J.D. with wry amusement, plays well with ``white people who want to be Confederates without any controversy.''
It was an astute observation, the truth of which was deftly illustrated recently by Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell. Seems he issued a proclamation declaring April Confederate History Month in the Commonwealth. Said proclamation contained not the barest mention that the confederacy went to war to preserve slavery, an omission that got the governor pilloried in the court of public opinion.
So McDonnell apologized and tried again, inserting into his proclamation a paragraph observing that this Confederacy we are invited to commemorate was built upon an ``evil'' and ``inhumane'' practice. That little bit of cognitive dissonance neatly accomplished, the proclamation was duly reissued.
But there's still a flaw in it. Namely in a line that speaks of how ``the people of Virginia joined the Confederate States of America.'' See, no one asked half a million of ``the people of Virginia'' about joining any Confederacy. As they were owned by their fellow citizens, they had no say in the matter.
And so it goes in the ongoing effort by apologists for the Confederacy to convince the rest of us that an act of high treason committed in the name of preserving human bondage somehow deserves honor and respect. It's a case that cannot be made on its own dubious merits, so they are obliged to pretend the cause wasn't what it was, to write slaves and slavery out of the story.
McDonnell is hardly the first. Indeed, the practice is nearly as old as the Civil War itself. Confederate ``President'' Jefferson Davis once flatly cited ``the labor of African slaves'' as the cause of the rebellion. After the war, with that cause repudiated, he wrote, ``slavery was in no wise the cause of the conflict.'' It's a straight line from Davis' amnesia to McDonnell's omission.
The governor seeks to render the Confederacy harmless, to be a Confederate without controversy. He seeks to validate the vestigial southern impulse which insists, contrary to logic, that the tragic suffering and incontestable bravery of Confederate forebears must somehow redeem the awful cause for which they fought. But the simple truth is, they do not. Nor can they until or unless we agree to murder memory, to kill recollection of our greatest national trauma, to enter into a conspiracy of romantic lies.
Confederate hero John Mosby, quoted above, understood this. Even J.D., the unrepentant racist, did.
It is past time the entire remnant of the Confederacy, all its apologists and battle flag fetishists, understood it, too. The alternative is to continue insisting upon sophistry as truth, and to periodically embarrass themselves and mystify the rest of us with their stubborn fealty to the stinking corpse of a long lost cause. It is to learn for the umpteen-millionth time what the governor was just taught.
Memory dies hard.