Unbiased Top 20 NBA Players

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jrod44;2816234 said:
1. Wade,most complete player in the game. Efficient, scorer, gets to the basket against any defense, his range improves when the stakes get higher, above average defender, blocks 7 fters, tenacious rebounder, willing passer. Very complete

2. Lebron James - best one on one defender for a top scorer, truly a two way player. Physical freak. Stats suggest his game is extremely complete. Up to Game 2 in the Finals, was having quite arguably one of the best playoffs ever.

3. Dwight Howard - Best big man in the game, two way player, improved offensive skill. Rebounding, blocked shots, and avgs above 20

damn phones dying, that's all I got.

These are two best players on the same team yet they just lost championship, yeah sure

D.D.S.;2816349 said:
how in the FUCK did kevin martin make that list?!!

kinda fucked up the thread 4 me
 
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CoolJoe;2811460 said:
Lol@ Kobe still being the best player in the league.
Some niggas will keep him at the top of the list until he retires, smh.

yroholla;2811543 said:
Apart from a jumper....Wade is better than Kobe....and deep down all u niggas kno that Wade has been snubbed on the all frist NBA team and first defensive team this year too and to deny that is blind dickriding for whoever was in his place

I dont understand all of this "Wade/Bron is better than Kobe" talk. Was there a separate NBA season yall watched?

Kobe - 33 mins, 25.3 points, .451% fg, .323% 3pt, .828% ft, 5.1 rebs, 4.7 asts, 1.5 steals, .6 blocks
Bron - 38 mins, 26.7 points, .510% fg, .330% 3pt, .759% ft, 7.5 rebs, 7 asts, 1.6 steals, .6 blocks
Wade - 37 mins, 25.5 points, .500% fg, .300% 3pt, .758% ft, 6.4 rebs, 4.6 asts, 1.5 steals, 1.1 blocks
 
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rap doctor;2816372 said:
These are two best players on the same team yet they just lost championship, yeah sure

kinda fucked up the thread 4 me

yeah, i was cool w/ it until then.
 
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D.D.S.;2816406 said:
yeah, i was cool w/ it until then.

What you talkin bout?? That was my personal list...i just wanna see what niggas is in everybody's top 20 and their reasons..how did my list fuck up the thread when it's stictly "my opinion"??
 
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jrod44;2816234 said:
1. Wade,most complete player in the game. Efficient, scorer, gets to the basket against any defense, his range improves when the stakes get higher, above average defender, blocks 7 fters, tenacious rebounder, willing passer. Very complete

2. Lebron James - best one on one defender for a top scorer, truly a two way player. Physical freak. Stats suggest his game is extremely complete. Up to Game 2 in the Finals, was having quite arguably one of the best playoffs ever.

3. Dwight Howard - Best big man in the game, two way player, improved offensive skill. Rebounding, blocked shots, and avgs above 20

damn phones dying, that's all I got.

shaq face @ the bolded

and how the hell the 2 best players in the world can be on the same team and cant handle niggas that yall arent even placing in ur top 5??
 
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jrod44;2816177 said:
Wade is better than Kobe. Plain and simple. He is better today,and IMO, has been better since 06.

People haven't brought up efficiency. Wade is a top scorer who is the most efficient guard since MJ. Kobe is a volume scorer, needs 20 shots to get 25 pts guy, while Wadecan drop 30 on 15 shots.

Its not entirely difficult to get 16/30 buckets when 12 shots came from layups, floaters and dunks...

No diss on Wade, but put it in perspective.
 
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Rey Negro;2816455 said:
Nope.........
He barely got him this year on the assists and he didnt even have the rock as much this season. Wade is a better passer. And nigga look at the career averages. Wade averages more steals
 
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If cats wanna get all the way technical with the comparisons how about we look at the defense the Dallas Mavs played this year against Wade and Kobe in the post season...Mavs even play zone which is geared towards stopping penetration and that's Wade at his most effective and they still couldn't really stop him....shooters should be able to bust the zone and Kobe couldn't do it...and Wade was hittin clutch jumpers down the stretches of games too....stop playin Stevie Wonder niggas
 
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yroholla;2817312 said:
If cats wanna get all the way technical with the comparisons how about we look at the defense the Dallas Mavs played this year against Wade and Kobe in the post season...Mavs even play zone which is geared towards stopping penetration and that's Wade at his most effective and they still couldn't really stop him....shooters should be able to bust the zone and Kobe couldn't do it...and Wade was hittin clutch jumpers down the stretches of games too....stop playin Stevie Wonder niggas

I was bout to dead your argument but i dont feel like anymore

agree to disagree
 
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rap doctor;2817318 said:
I was bout to dead your argument but i dont feel like anymore

agree to disagree

Yeah u would try but would be unsuccessful but agree to disagree if u must
 
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copperkid27;2816441 said:
shaq face @ the bolded

and how the hell the 2 best players in the world can be on the same team and cant handle niggas that yall arent even placing in ur top 5??

First off, Lebron was having an all time playoffs, clutch vs. Boston and Chicago.

2nd, basketball consists of at least 8-9 rotational players, so that's part of it. And quite simply, Lebron choked vs. The Mavs. But I can drop Lebron based on 5 games that guys like Dwight, Rose, Durant, Paul etc... Couldn't get to.

So that's how I can say 1 -2 can play on the same team and yet come up 5 mins short of a title in their first year together. They are one of 4 guys who are truly elite on both ends of the court. Kobe and Dwight being the other two. The rest of the league, IMO, are a notch below than the Big 4, thet are usually just offensive powerhouses.
 
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FlyFreeCt;2808480 said:
16.Joe Johnson-I know he's overpaid, but he's productive enough to get into my top 20..Most of the time he plays within himself and you always know what your gonna get out of him (other than the orlando series in 2010)..but overall he's an average defender and can take over the game when he gets in one of his zones offensively..just not worth 120 mil..

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As efficient as Wade is I can guarantee more of his points come from the line than Kobe and well over 1/4 of his career points have come from the line, which is somewhat of a black mark in the pure scoring argument. Still better than Kobe at the moment though.
 
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yall be buggin ratin dirk so high just because his team won the chip, no one was sayin yony parker was the best in the league when he won finals mvp lol
 
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mdizzle9000;2817994 said:
yall be buggin ratin dirk so high just because his team won the chip, no one was sayin yony parker was the best in the league when he won finals mvp lol

the shit is silly... ESPN is a hell of a drug and its utterly hilarious that kb is doin what niggas is doin in their prime now...
 
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