Tupac Amaru Shakur "Hip-Hop's Greatest Artist"

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Easy for me, my favorite rapper of all time is Makaveli

He spoke from the heart and from his soul, he was not afraid to show his emotions.

I swear sometimes it felt like he was saying what I was thinking, he spoke for the people.

It was more then Rap when it came to Pac.
 
_Menace_;5620812 said:
the_focused_one;5620792 said:
Nas>>>

Jay>>>

BIG>>>

And I'm one hour from Oakland where the legend started... The Tupac Worship is brewing again I see... LoL.

Puffy crafted biggies songs biggie just rapped. PAC was the better artist

Biggie lacked creativity and vision without puff he wouldn't have had those hits he has now

What does making hits have to do with artistry?.. I'm sure everybody on the IC can make a lengthy list of crappy/mediocre songs that blew up..

And yeah, Puff gave Biggie that mainstream boost, but Biggie didn't remotely lack creativity (e.g. Machine Gun Funk , Everyday Struggle, Things Done Changed etc)..
 
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yo you kinda ruining your claim by putting cats like Kanye, Rza and Quik up here cuz they produce and rap, wouldnt that make them the better overall artist?....lol
 
What does work ethic have to do with Pac being the GOAT hip-hop artist? Lil Wayne has probably made a 1000 songs in his life but that doesn't mean shit.
 
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Allergens;5621142 said:
Im disgusted that this is even a debate

Thats like old niggaz saying Jordan aint the best every cause you aint see Big O, or Wilt play..GTFOH

This nigga influenced a generation on some MJ shit...

I know niggaz that aint never listened to a Nas Album

I know niggaz that aint never listened to a Big Album

I Know niggaz that aint never listened to a Jay-Z Album

I know niggaz that fuck wit Pun and LL heavy but i'll tell you pac that nigga

In your lifetime, have you ever...ever...ever.. met a hphop fan that hasnt at least heard 1 full tupac album

So you cool hanging with close minded people, well alright
 
_Menace_;5620465 said:
5 Reasons Why Tupac Is The G.O.A.T

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1. His work ethic can't be touched. First started in 1990 and dropped his first album in 1991 (2Pacalypse Now) and made 6 album in 5 years (4 if you count the time he was behind bars) Pac managed to drop more than 450 songs till his death in September of 96. He was in n out of court and was making movies yet he found time to record so much songs that contributed about 8 posthumous albums plus he still music that hasn't even been released yet



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2. Pac was versatile when it came to subject matter. Pac had songs from Keep Ya Head Up to Hit Em Up and from How Do You Want It to Hail Mary. Pac touched on all subjects (Women,Sex,Gangs,Politics,Fast Life Style,Family Problems,Poverty, and Religion).

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3. Pac probably was the Realest and Smartest Emcee never held his tongue and always dropped knowledge. He talked about everything he rapped about and let everyone know what was on his mind whether it was negative or positive. His meaning for THUGLIFE showed how deep he was

(The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everyone) He stated many times how THUG LIFE wasn't about Killing,Raping or Robbing People and how it it was about the youth and our future. Pac gave back to a lot of communities and did a lot for others he never asked for cameras to follow him around so people can see the other side of him,he didn't care if the media was around or not. Pac would talk about poverty,politics and religion when other Emcees shy away from those subjects.



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4. Tupac wasn't overrated no matter what you think. Overrated is thrown when Pac is mention because of all the hype he got since his death. Even though I was young when he passed I have cousins who where old enough to witness Pac in the spotlight, Pac was extremely popular while he was still alive All Eyes On Me sold 5 million copies in only 2 months he was the biggest name in hip hop at the time and for people to say he's overrated is straight blasphemous. He was in the studio making 3 songs day and filming movies. His music never lacked passion and his pen game was on point, there's cats out there who claim Pac wasn't nice on the mic. Those are the same cats who don't focus on what Pac says check songs out like Heartz Of Men,Ambitonz Az A Ridah,Street Fame (off Better Dayz),Got My Mind Made Up,Me Against The World ect.ect.

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5. Hate him or Love him you can't deny that Tupac was and is the most influential rapper of all time.

Pac has been dead for 17 years yet his name and legacy still lives. I was born n raised in The Bay and seen the impact Pac left here I also been overseas and Pac is just as big on the international scene as he is in the states.

Every rapper that came after Pac has taken something from whether its from his personal life or his music. Pac definitely left a mark on music not just Hip-Hop he influenced everyone from 50 Cent to Game to Kendrick and yes even Justin Beiber, Pac's influence was so big that it reached outside the Hip Hop community. I feel like we lost more than just a rapper, but an ICON and a Role Model to some. We will never see another artist as real and creative as Pac. I feel like NaS is the last emcee who can still do that.


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R.I.P To The Greatest To Ever Do It

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G.O.A.T

Co-sign thread!
 
Btw I hope y'all understand that you're being programmed to look up to dude because he's dead. Real dudes understand this..... stop being so impressionable.
 
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a_list;5621274 said:
yo you kinda ruining your claim by putting cats like Kanye, Rza and Quik up here cuz they produce and rap, wouldnt that make them the better overall artist?....lol

Lol, i guess you're right. But what Kanye and RZA have done with their beats, artists like Nas and Tupac can do with their lyrics....seriously, it takes a lot to create a song that can capture a mood or a moment - and truly talented lyricists can do that using words!
 
Yo I'm trying to grasp this artist thing so I ask questions...lol...I'm just trying to figure out what makes rappers better artist than others when all that 90% of them do is write and perform lyrics....It takes extreme talent to move people with words, but with this artist thing it seems as if the more successful rapper = better artist....I dont get it...lol
 
D_Rap_Scholar;5621582 said:
a_list;5621274 said:
yo you kinda ruining your claim by putting cats like Kanye, Rza and Quik up here cuz they produce and rap, wouldnt that make them the better overall artist?....lol

Lol, i guess you're right. But what Kanye and RZA have done with their beats, artists like Nas and Tupac can do with their lyrics....seriously, it takes a lot to create a song that can capture a mood or a moment - and truly talented lyricists can do that using words!

Yo I'm trying to grasp this artist thing so I ask questions...lol...I'm just trying to figure out what makes rappers better artist than others when all that 90% of them do is write and perform lyrics....It takes extreme talent to move people with words, but with this artist thing it seems as if the more successful rapper = better artist....I dont get it...lol

 
Given the operative word 'artist', I'd say Pac is the clear cut choice here. But I'd LOVE for T/S to convince me that Pac is the greatest MC ever, like he mentions in the original post. I ain't buying it.
 
infamous114;5621354 said:
What does work ethic have to do with Pac being the GOAT hip-hop artist? Lil Wayne has probably made a 1000 songs in his life but that doesn't mean shit.

Quality or quanity

PAC made better music than Wayne Wayne just rapped about pussy on 90% of those songs

 
@menace

I don't get it, you tryna say if a nigga wears bandana = 2pac had a influence on them? 2pac did not create or was the first one with that. Bandanas was just like jerseys a popular thing in the early 90's. Redman used to stay rocking bandanas pre 2pac and so did alot of New York street cats, which is were 2pac got that influence from. Nate rocked bandanas alot too.
 
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CirocObama;5621998 said:
@menace

I don't get it, you tryna say if a nigga wears bandana = 2pac had a influence on them? 2pac did not create or was the first one with that. Bandanas was just like jerseys a popular thing in the early 90's. Redman used to stay rocking bandanas pre 2pac and so did alot of New York street cats.

It's the way he wore the bandana. A lot of cars wear it like that cause of Pac

 
Co-sign...

Alot of comments from young cats who dont remember how huge pac was before he died...

From 94 to 96 he was bigger than any rapper has ever been...only em in 2000 or wayne in 08 can come close...

Niggas only remember pac ridin on the east coast but they dont remember them hatin on pac for being the mainstream face of rap...

Nas big wu scarface etc. were big in hip hop circles but not as mainstream as pac yet...

Pac (along with snoop and dre) engineered rappers being huge pop culture figures again after hammer, vanilla ice fiasco
 
_Menace_;5622012 said:
CirocObama;5621998 said:
@menace

I don't get it, you tryna say if a nigga wears bandana = 2pac had a influence on them? 2pac did not create or was the first one with that. Bandanas was just like jerseys a popular thing in the early 90's. Redman used to stay rocking bandanas pre 2pac and so did alot of New York street cats.

It's the way he wore the bandana. A lot of cars wear it like that cause of Pac

Again, hell no dude. People wore it exactly like that and the way DMX, Cash Money and them used to wear them in the late 90's as well. Wu-Tang used to rock bandanas too. Like i said the reason 2pac started wearing them and doing it that way was when he hung out in New York alot with them Brooklyn cats that he eventually came to war with. 2pac did not start it nor the way he wore it.

Goes back to my point once again, this false perception of things.. How can you make assumptions like that when you don't even know the facts of it?

 

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