Trayvon Martin Case.... the plot thickens

[fiat_money]

thread basically died once i posted that pic, rofl

Word, niggas are running out of bullshit arguments to come up with.

 

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thegrio.com/specials/trayvon-martin/joe-oliver-george-zimmermans-friend-no-longer-his-media-advisor.php

Joe Oliver, George Zimmerman's 'friend', no longer his media advisor

Joe Oliver, who made a media splash as the friend who stepped forward to support George Zimmerman, has stepped down as Zimmerman's media adviser.

Oliver, 53, first told theGrio he reached out to Zimmerman's attorney, Craig Sonner, after he was unable to reach George, with whom Oliver works at a Florida mortgage security firm.

Oliver said he wanted to know if it was okay to "speak on George's behalf," and he wanted to reassure himself that he would be doing the right thing if he did so.

And he said he wanted to quell the notion that Zimmerman's killing of Trayvon Martin, 17, was a "racial incident."

Oliver said he has known Zimmerman since the 28 year old began dating his now-wife, whose mother is friends with Oliver's wife. In his initial television appearances, including on MSNBC, he was introduced as a friend, not a media adviser, though Oliver insists he made his role clear from the start. After an appearance on MSNBC's The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell, Oliver admitted that he and Zimmerman were co-workers, and O'Donnell, with New York Times columnist Charles Blow and Washington Post columnist Jonathan Capehart strongly questioned how well he actually knew Zimmerman personally.

NBC News confirmed that Oliver has removed himself from Zimmerman's team now that Sonner has hired co-counsel Hal Uhrig, who was a television legal analyst with an Orlando Fox affiliate during the Casey Anthony murder trial.

"My whole intention from the beginning was to help George with the media," Oliver told theGrio, claiming his many television appearances began with a mere coincidence.

"It just so happened that when I finally got in touch with Craig" to offer his services, on the day of their initial meeting just over a week ago, "ABC News was already there to interview Craig."

Oliver said he stepped forward to join the team because in his words, Sonner was inexperienced in dealing with the media, and Oliver, a former news anchor with NBC affiliate WESH in Orlando, who also worked for CNN, "was aware of what the media storm that was brewing was going to be like, having had 20 plus years experience both local and network. As a friend, acquaintance -- however you or anybody else wants to define it -- it was my obligation to offer my expertise to his counsel in dealing with the media."

Oliver characterized his assistance to Zimmerman's team as "pro bono," saying, "I didn't' make any money off this. I didn't expect or intend to get paid. This was all intended to help someone who had no media experience, especially in the media they had to deal with," referring to Sonner.

Oliver called the hiring of co-counsel "preparing for the worst," though he insisted that he and Zimmerman's team "all feel very confident that there will be no charges."

"And so now that it's become public that Craig has co-counsel on this, in case there's a trial, it's easy for me to pass this on because [Uhrig] actually has a staff that can be more efficient about getting information to" the media.

"This now allows me to go back to my job, which I was never fired from and never quit."

I guess it's only so long these coons can pretend...

 

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thread basically died once i posted that pic, rofl

Word, niggas are running out of bullshit arguments to come up with.

major feelings were caught, they buried that post by Wacking it.

 

[The Prodigalson]

Lol, that pic doesn't match getting your head smashed on concrete.

What does getting your head smashed on concrete look like then?

People in this thread are being unreasonably skeptical because it doesn't fit their narrative.

Considering he had his head banged on the concrete a minute straight and to come up with a gash or anything is unreal. How does one grab a pistol and shoot while both arms are pinned?

 

[fiat_money]

Lol, that pic doesn't match getting your head smashed on concrete.

What does getting your head smashed on concrete look like then?

People in this thread are being unreasonably skeptical because it doesn't fit their narrative.

Considering he had his head banged on the concrete a minute straight and to come up with a gash or anything is unreal. How does one grab a pistol and shoot while both arms are pinned?

Source on this statement?

 

[The Prodigalson]

Lol, that pic doesn't match getting your head smashed on concrete.

What does getting your head smashed on concrete look like then?

People in this thread are being unreasonably skeptical because it doesn't fit their narrative.

Considering he had his head banged on the concrete a minute straight and to come up with a gash or anything is unreal. How does one grab a pistol and shoot while both arms are pinned?

Source on this statement?

Ask both his coon ass black buddy and the other neighbor who said this was told to them by Zimmerman. I'm on my iPad so I can't post the interviews riht now.

 

[The Prodigalson]

What the difference in this caseand this article?

One might look to the 2006 Long Island, New York case involving John Harris White for a possible answer. In that case, an African American father shoots a White teenager who is in his driveway. The White teenager, Daniel Cicciaro, age 17, had come to John White’s home with a group of other White teenagers to attack John White’s 19-year-old son after an altercation that had taken place at a different location.

Although John White claimed that he had acted in self-defense when he pointed a gun at Cicciaro and, that the gun had accidentally discharged when Cicciaro tried to grab it, John White was arrested, tried and convicted of manslaughter and was sentenced to two to four years in prison.[2] John White served five months in prison before his sentence was commuted by Governor Patterson.

In that incident, John White’s family was under attack at their own home. The “castle doctrine” on which the “stand your ground” law is based, provides the greatest protection for persons who are threatened at their homes, but John White was arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced to prison.

Source: http://www.thecrimereport.org/viewp...lorblind-society-did-trayvon-martin-have-a-ri

 

[The Prodigalson]

He was a nigga that shot a white boy.

 

[fiat_money]

What the difference in this caseand this article?...

Different state.

No "stand your ground" law, although he may have been covered by New York's weak "castle law" (weak because it may still require the "duty to retreat").

No mention of an initial fight between him and the victim.

 

[apocalyptica]

Lol, that pic doesn't match getting your head smashed on concrete.

What does getting your head smashed on concrete look like then?

People in this thread are being unreasonably skeptical because it doesn't fit their narrative.

Herp derp, I have a scar on my head from hitting the headboard of a bed. My gash didn't magically become to heal itself within 15 minutes.

Unless you're seeing something I'm not, that is not a "healed" wound. This video supposedly took place 40 minutes after the incident. His marks show obviously reddish and exposed tissue. The wound looks fresh. After 40 minutes unless you have an issue with blood clotting, then you will most likely stop bleeding a profuse amount. You see in the video the officer look at the back of his head like "What the fuck?" or a "wow" manner. I don't understand what you people are aiming at here. How do you folks think he got the wound on his head? Are you privy to some other information that we're not? Its like you people think he should have his brains leaking out his head before he is allowed to use deadly force. It doesn't work like that and thank god for that.

I'll say this, if you're going to try and bang my head on concrete even ONCE, I'm going to shoot you. I'm not going to let you turn me into a retarded veggie fuck that. Don't want to get shot? Don't bang my head on concrete. Otherwise, enjoy your time in the afterlife.

 

[Drgoo0285]

Lol, that pic doesn't match getting your head smashed on concrete.

What does getting your head smashed on concrete look like then?

People in this thread are being unreasonably skeptical because it doesn't fit their narrative.

Herp derp, I have a scar on my head from hitting the headboard of a bed. My gash didn't magically become to heal itself within 15 minutes.

Unless you're seeing something I'm not, that is not a "healed" wound. This video supposedly took place 40 minutes after the incident. His marks show obviously reddish and exposed tissue. The wound looks fresh. After 40 minutes unless you have an issue with blood clotting, then you will most likely stop bleeding a profuse amount. You see in the video the officer look at the back of his head like "What the fuck?" or a "wow" manner. I don't understand what you people are aiming at here. How do you folks think he got the wound on his head? Are you privy to some other information that we're not? Its like you people think he should have his brains leaking out his head before he is allowed to use deadly force. It doesn't work like that and thank god for that.

I'll say this, if you're going to try and bang my head on concrete even ONCE, I'm going to shoot you. I'm not going to let you turn me into a retarded veggie fuck that. Don't want to get shot? Don't bang my head on concrete. Otherwise, enjoy your time in the afterlife.

It doesn't look that way to me... but i think the weirder things is what emt treats wounds with out bandages? It seems a little strange that a professional would allow a person to ride in a police car with a open gash in his head.

 

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[Melanin_Enriched]

Lol @ in a wow manner. You mean the same cup that did a kanye shrug moments later?

 

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reuters.com/article/2012/04/04/us-usa-florida-shooting-corey-idUSBRE83312U20120404

Prosecutor in Florida shooting case has tough reputation

Reuters) - Angela Corey, the prosecutor investigating the shooting death of an unarmed black teenager in Florida, has been known to wear a victims advocate pin to trials, shed tears with victims' families and make faces at defense witnesses.

The decision about whether to charge the white Hispanic man who shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, will ultimately rest with Corey. Those watching the case, which has inflamed racial tensions, are looking closely at her background for clues to how she might handle it.

Corey heads a state attorney's office in north Florida where she has earned a reputation for toughness in handling crimes involving gun violence.

"Generally, it's arrest the guy with the gun and sort it out later. That's always been the way it works in Angela Corey's circuit," said Teresa Sopp, a veteran criminal defense lawyer who has battled Corey in court on numerous occasions.

Sometimes Corey's quest for justice can go too far, said Bill White, a former public defender who recalls judges instructing her to refrain from showing her frustration with defense witnesses or from wearing a large cross around her neck that might influence a jury.

"It's part of her zealousness," said White, who tried cases against Corey for more than 20 years. "Sometimes, you have to question that zealousness. And you have to keep an eye on her because you know you're up against a tough prosecutor. She's very, very smart."

The Trayvon Martin case - which has attracted attention across the United States and abroad - is putting Corey under close scrutiny.

Martin's family and supporters have attended rallies around the country to push for the arrest of the shooter, George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain who said he acted in self-defense when he shot the teenager in the central Florida town of Sanford on February 26.

Police have so far not arrested Zimmerman, citing Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law, which allows the use of lethal force outside the home when a reasonable threat is perceived.

In an interview on Tuesday, Corey would not discuss the specifics of the Trayvon Martin case, but said she does not shy away from making tough decisions.

"You can't worry about consequence if you're doing the right thing," Corey told Reuters. "If you're going to commit to doing the right thing for the right reasons, consequences have to fall where they may."

Florida Governor Rick Scott appointed Corey as the special prosecutor in the Martin case on March 22 after State Attorney Norm Wolfinger, whose district includes Sanford, recused himself.

The relationship between Corey and Scott dates to his campaign days, when Corey became one of the first state attorneys to support his election for governor. She later worked on Scott's transition team.

Corey, a native of Jacksonville, is the grandchild of Syrian immigrants who ran a grocery store downtown. She attended public schools in Jacksonville and still attends her childhood church, St. John's Episcopal. She studied law at the University of Florida.

In 1981 she joined the state attorney's office that oversees three north Florida counties, but was fired in 2006 after a falling out with her boss, then-State Attorney Harry Shorstein. Two years later, she ran against Shorstein's handpicked successor to lead the office and won.

Corey's tough stance has had an impact in her three years in office.

Despite a decrease in crime and arrests in Jacksonville, and in the overall jail populations around the state, the number of inmates in Jacksonville's Duval County jail is up dramatically due to tougher sentences, said one criminal justice expert who studied the statistics.

"The single most important factor as to why the jail is so full in Duval County is ... Angela Corey's aggressive style as prosecutor," said Michael Hallett, chairman of criminology and criminal justice at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville.

BOY FACES TRIAL FOR MURDER

Until she was picked to investigate the Trayvon Martin shooting, the case that attracted most attention to Corey involved another teenager.

Cristian Fernandez, now 13, was charged on Corey's watch with first-degree murder last June at age 12 for the death of his 2-year-old brother. He will be tried as an adult and faces a possible life sentence if convicted. Children's advocates have protested the decision.

"Compared to her predecessor, she is much more aggressive in terms of filing criminal charges, much less likely to dismiss charges, and more likely to multiple file... She prosecutes every potential charge to the hilt," Hallett said.

But even her critics insist that no one should misinterpret her position on cases as being racially motivated.

"She's been a strong advocate for African-American victims throughout her career," said former public defender White. "There's no hint of racism there. The real question with Angela, to me, is: Is her judgment good?"

Corey said for every case in which she has been criticized for being too tough, she can point to others that show a different side. In a recent case, two black teens were arrested as robbery suspects, Corey said, but she and another prosecutor quickly decided they would not file charges against the young men.

It was late on a Friday afternoon, and Corey did not want to see the suspects languish in jail all weekend. She tracked down a judge who was still at the courthouse and arranged the paperwork for them to be released to their grandmother, she said.

"She has a lot of compassion for the victims of crime, but she knows when a case is not going to be able to be prosecuted," said Mitchell Stone, a Jacksonville criminal defense lawyer who has known Corey for 23 years.

 

[redhandedbandit]

if the fight happened by zimmermans car like he said why was trayvons body found not by the street but inbetween the houses up the path

 

[fiat_money]

if the fight happened by zimmermans car like he said why was trayvons body found not by the street but inbetween the houses up the path

Where did ZImmerman say this?

 

[kingblaze84]

Damn I can't believe this cracka Zimmerman isn't arrested yet

 

[CitySojourner]

Zimmerman is guilty as fuck and there's no question about it, but people are so desperate to prove him guilty they start manipulating the facts to back up their claims. I listened to that supposed "coon" audio and it sounds like he's saying punk/s, not coon. All i'm saying is let the facts speak for themselves. If we start using hyperbole with the evidence, to the media it'll make it look as if we're reaching for something more than what's really there.

 

[lighthearted26]

I clearly hear the "c" sound in that word. Also if you look into the context of what he is saying then it's not surprising he would say that.

 

[SneakDZA]

lol @ people trying to convince us that "punks" sounds like "poons"