Trayvon Martin Case.... the plot thickens

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I know niggaz don't believe Travon was in a full mount with both of Zimmerman arms pinned, while applying pressure to his neck with one hand and dropping ha ha's withe the othe hand and som how he Zimmerman was able to get his pistol and shoot.
 
The Prodigalson;4225314 said:
The whole shit was some type of cover up. That's why the chief stepped down, how often do the chief of police con down to a crime scene? Tell the lead investigator they don't have enough evidence to arrest Zimmerman and to let him go. Of course afte standard procedures.
The law gives Zimmerman a lot of "wiggle room" here, so it was smart for the states attorney office to stop them before they filed easily-defeated charges.
 
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Fatass probably slipped on the wet grass and burst his head on the sidewalk when he was chasing Trayvon. I believe that before I believe anything he or any boy he hires says.
It's plausible, fat niggas are clumsy; but it does looks like something happened to the back of his head.

Does he look like he weights 240lbs though?nh

The police report doesn't list his weight.

I just think he would have a lot of blood on his shirt from the broken nose. How much did they clean up? Does Trayvon have any of Zimmerman's blood on him?
If he was getting attacked while on his back like he says, the blood wouldn't have dripped down onto his shirt. Besides this assumes that his nose was gushing blood in the first place, there's all kinds of ways a nose can break.

 
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Fatass probably slipped on the wet grass and burst his head on the sidewalk when he was chasing Trayvon. I believe that before I believe anything he or any boy he hires says.
It's plausible, fat niggas are clumsy; but it does looks like something happened to the back of his head.

Does he look like he weights 240lbs though?nh

The police report doesn't list his weight.

I just think he would have a lot of blood on his shirt from the broken nose. How much did they clean up? Does Trayvon have any of Zimmerman's blood on him?
If he was getting attacked while on his back like he says, the blood wouldn't have dripped down onto his shirt. Besides this assumes that his nose was gushing blood in the first place, there's all kinds of ways a nose can break.

Forget, "there's all kinds of ways a nose can break."

What about the, "I'm on the ground getting my face pounded in so much so that I fear for my life," kind of nose break.

 
That video just made me think of smthn...where are the close-ups of Zimmermans injuries? I'm no legal expert, but I'd imagine it's standard procedure for pics of injuries to be taken for evidence in any case where there was an alleged physical assault that took place. Then again judging by the way this case has been handled so far let's forget I even asked that.
 
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Fatass probably slipped on the wet grass and burst his head on the sidewalk when he was chasing Trayvon. I believe that before I believe anything he or any boy he hires says.
It's plausible, fat niggas are clumsy; but it does looks like something happened to the back of his head.

Does he look like he weights 240lbs though?nh

The police report doesn't list his weight.

I just think he would have a lot of blood on his shirt from the broken nose. How much did they clean up? Does Trayvon have any of Zimmerman's blood on him?
If he was getting attacked while on his back like he says, the blood wouldn't have dripped down onto his shirt. Besides this assumes that his nose was gushing blood in the first place, there's all kinds of ways a nose can break.

Not to mention that they said he had blood coming from his nose, and that he was standing over Trayvon.

Oh and the Funeral Director said he didn't see any signs of Trayvon being in a fight with his hands.
 
hmmm, I think Zimmerman will get off if they can't prove that he wasn't walking away when Trayvon attacked. And if this is the case, then Zimmerman shouldn't go to jail. I still would blame him for causing this situation in the first place though.

Though, I find it odd that someone would go out of their way to follow someone, only to ask them the question "who are you?". then proceed to walk away after the person they are questioning gives them a smart answer. That is the main reason I think Zimmerman started the fight. Meh, maybe he didn't start the fight, and Zimmerman is just an odd nigga.
 
I like how his lawyer says "the video is too grainy" Instead of trying to point out the injuries. if he's the lawyer, he should be able to say see, right there just above and to the left of his right ear is the cut or here's a older picture, you can clearly see his nose is swollen. I'm not a fan of the police cleaning you up in the car either, you can refuse medical treatment but let the police clean you up, give you stitches, and reset the cartridge in your nose??????? Seriously??? I'm not saying there wasn't a fight, chase and corner 90% of the people in this world and there will be fight but come on.
 
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Fatass probably slipped on the wet grass and burst his head on the sidewalk when he was chasing Trayvon. I believe that before I believe anything he or any boy he hires says.
It's plausible, fat niggas are clumsy; but it does looks like something happened to the back of his head.

Does he look like he weights 240lbs though?nh

The police report doesn't list his weight.

I just think he would have a lot of blood on his shirt from the broken nose. How much did they clean up? Does Trayvon have any of Zimmerman's blood on him?
If he was getting attacked while on his back like he says, the blood wouldn't have dripped down onto his shirt. Besides this assumes that his nose was gushing blood in the first place, there's all kinds of ways a nose can break.

Forget, "there's all kinds of ways a nose can break."

What about the, "I'm on the ground getting my face pounded in so much so that I fear for my life," kind of nose break.
Pretty sure that's not medical terminology, but it's known that different people have different pain thresholds.

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Fatass probably slipped on the wet grass and burst his head on the sidewalk when he was chasing Trayvon. I believe that before I believe anything he or any boy he hires says.
It's plausible, fat niggas are clumsy; but it does looks like something happened to the back of his head.

Does he look like he weights 240lbs though?nh

The police report doesn't list his weight.

I just think he would have a lot of blood on his shirt from the broken nose. How much did they clean up? Does Trayvon have any of Zimmerman's blood on him?
If he was getting attacked while on his back like he says, the blood wouldn't have dripped down onto his shirt. Besides this assumes that his nose was gushing blood in the first place, there's all kinds of ways a nose can break.

Not to mention that they said he had blood coming from his nose, and that he was standing over Trayvon.

Oh and the Funeral Director said he didn't see any signs of Trayvon being in a fight with his hands.
"Blood coming from his nose" is still vague, that could be blood dripping slowly down onto his mouth, or blood spilling all over him.

Shit, they cleaned up this nigga's blood fairly quickly, and I'd guess that his was worse than Zimmerman's shit:


 
blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/03/trayvon-martin-cnn-plans-town-hall-interview-with-george-zimmermans-brother.html

“Beyond Trayvon: Race & Justice in America” is the title of a town hall that CNN will air.

Soledad O’Brien will host the program about the Trayvon Martin tragedy at 8 p.m. Friday; it will be staged in the Time Warner Center in New York.

CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight” will talk to George Zimmerman’s brother, Robert this evening. George Zimmerman said he shot 17-year-old Trayvon in self-defense.

Morgan’s program airs at 9.

George Zimmerman’s father, who is also named Robert, talked to WOFL-Channel 35 last night.
 
In Marvins Room;4226849 said:

If he went to Heaven, I don't see what the complaining is about.

His family should thank Zimmerman.

IF he went to Heaven.

I don't believe in Heaven, so I don't think thanking Zimmerman is required.
 
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Fatass probably slipped on the wet grass and burst his head on the sidewalk when he was chasing Trayvon. I believe that before I believe anything he or any boy he hires says.
It's plausible, fat niggas are clumsy; but it does looks like something happened to the back of his head.

Does he look like he weighs 240lbs though?nh

The police report doesn't list his weight.

the format of the video is not accurate, it is wider normally, was pointed out somewhere else
 
and i have the feeling we are seeing the new generation of johnny cochrans once this case begins, the trayvon lawyers seem to be really on their grind if you read who they are...good shit

but i would have loved to see the original cochran roast these racists on the other side in the case, he would have had a field day with them. may he rest in peace, on of the greatest we ever saw
 
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articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-29/news/os-zimmerman-defense-fund-20120329_1_gun-enthusiasts-defense-fund-gun-law

Gun enthusiasts start defense fund for George Zimmerman

A firearms website created by some Tampa gun enthusiasts announced today it is collecting money to help pay for George Zimmerman's legal defense.

Christopher Kossmann, 23, and three friends founded Legal Boom: Gun law for the Gunshine State last year to explain Florida's self-defense laws, he said.

Describing legalboom.org as a "hobbyist website," Kossman said none of the members are lawyers and they pay expenses out of their pockets. He has not met Zimmerman, 28, but is trying to reach his attorney, Craig Sonner of Altamonte Springs to discuss the fundraising effort.

Zimmerman told Sanford police he killed Trayvon Martin, 17, in self defense on Feb. 26. The death of the unarmed teen prompted a nationwide controversy and the killing remains under investigation by a special prosecutor.

"Legalboom.org is officially accepting donations to help Zimmerman through what is undoubtedly the hardest time in his life and for his legal defense," the website states. "If you feel this article has changed your views or you already had this inclination please show your support!"

Kossmann said the public will have to trust him to deliver all money raised for Zimmerman in the absence of an accountant, non-profit status and other common features of organized fundraising efforts.
 
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Many questions in shooting of Trayvon Martin

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — The fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager by a neighborhood watch captain has led to nationwide protests calling for the shooter's arrest. Trayvon Martin's parents, civil rights leaders and other people are portraying the case as racially motivated, saying the shooter, George Zimmerman, would have been arrested had he been black and the victim white.

Zimmerman told police he acted in self-defense after Martin pursued and attacked him.

The case has raised a multitude of questions, many of which remain unanswered. Here are some of the answers and some of what's not known.

Q: What happened?

A: Martin, 17, was shot and killed by a single gunshot wound to the chest Feb. 26 during a confrontation with Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch volunteer in a gated community of townhomes in Sanford, Fla.

Zimmerman was patrolling the neighborhood when he spotted Martin, who was unarmed and walking to the home of his father's fiancee. She lived nearby, though it wasn't clear if her home was in the gated community.

Martin was returning from a trip to the convenience store with an iced tea and a bag of Skittles. It was raining, and Martin was walking with the hood of his sweatshirt pulled over his head. He talked to his girlfriend on a cellphone moments before the shooting, according to Martin's family's attorney.

Q: What is George Zimmerman's side of the story?

A: George Zimmerman has not spoken publicly. He told police that he spotted Martin as he was patrolling his neighborhood and called 911 to report a suspicious person.

"This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something," Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his sport utility vehicle. He added that the teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

"These a-------. They always get away," Zimmerman said on a 911 call.

A neighbor said there had been several break-ins in the community in the past year, including one in which burglars took a TV and laptops.

A dispatcher told Zimmerman to stay in his vehicle and that an officer would be there momentarily. Zimmerman, for unknown reasons, got out.

Zimmerman told police he lost sight of the teenager and was walking back to his vehicle when he was attacked. He and Martin fought, according to witnesses. Zimmerman said Martin punched him in the nose and slammed his head against the ground.

At some point, Zimmerman pulled a gun and shot Martin. Zimmerman told police he acted in self-defense.

Police said Zimmerman was bleeding from his nose and the back of his head. He told police he had yelled out for help before he shot Martin.

He has not been arrested or charged.

Q: What is Martin's family's side of the story?

A: Much of Martin's side of the story comes from a cellphone conversation he had with his girlfriend moments before the shooting. She was interviewed by the family's attorney, Benjamin Crump, and he released much of what she said to the news media. She has not been identified.

In the interview, she said Trayvon Martin told her that he was being followed.

"She says: 'Run.' He says, 'I'm not going to run, I'm just going to walk fast,'" Crump said, quoting the girl.

The girl later heard Martin say, "Why are you following me?" Another man asked, "What are you doing around here?" Crump said.

After Martin encountered Zimmerman, the girl thinks she heard a scuffle "because his voice changes like something interrupted his speech," Crump said. The phone call ended before the girl heard any gunshots.

Martin's parents said their son made the pleas for help that witnesses heard.

Q: What did Zimmerman say on the 911 call?

A: On one of Zimmerman's calls to police that night, he muttered something under his breath that some listeners say sounds like a racial slur. Others, however, say the recording is not clear enough to determine what Zimmerman actually said.

Q: Who is investigating?

A: Sanford Police have turned over their evidence to local prosecutors for them to decide whether Zimmerman should be charged. The Justice Department and FBI have opened a civil rights investigation. Several members of Congress have called for the case to be investigated as a hate crime.

Q: Why didn't police arrest Zimmerman?

A: Zimmerman claims self-defense, and Florida is among 21 states with a "stand your ground law," which gives people wide latitude to use deadly force rather than retreat during a fight. The Florida law lets police on the scene decide whether they believe the self-defense claim. In many cases, the officers make an arrest and leave it to the courts to work out whether the deadly force is justified. In this case, however, police have said they are confident they did the right thing by not charging Zimmerman.

Q: What does the police video of Zimmerman show?

A: The video shows a handcuffed Zimmerman being led into the police station. It may be important for what it doesn't show: No obvious cuts, scrapes, blood or bandages. No clearly broken nose. No plainly visible evidence of a life-and-death struggle.

Martin's family and supporters seized on the footage to dispute Zimmerman's claim that he shot and killed the unarmed black teenager after the young man attacked him.

Zimmerman attorney Craig Sonner said on NBC's "Today" show the footage appears to support his client's story in some respects.

"It's a very grainy video. ... However, if you watch, you'll see one of the officers, as he's walking in, looking at something on the back of his head," Sonner said. He also noted that the police report said Zimmerman was treated before he was taken to the police station for questioning.

Q: What could the charges be?

A: If Zimmerman is charged, he could most likely face second-degree murder or manslaughter charges at the state level. If convicted of the second-degree murder charge, he could potentially face up to life in prison because a gun was used.

Federal prosecutors could charge Zimmerman with a hate crime if they think there is evidence he was motivated by racial bias. That charge can carry the death penalty in the most severe instances, or up to life in prison.

Federal prosecutors could also accuse Zimmerman of using his official authority to violate Martin's rights — known as a "color of law" case — but they would have to prove that Zimmerman was acting in some official capacity, similar to a police officer or government official. Zimmerman was a volunteer neighborhood watchman.

Q: When will prosecutors decide whether Zimmerman is charged?

A: It's unclear. A spokeswoman for the special prosecutor who has taken over the local investigation said it could be weeks before they decide. Special prosecutor Angela Corey has three options: She could present the case to a grand jury, which would decide whether Zimmerman should face charges; she could charge him without the grand jury's review; or she could decide not to bring the case before the panel and not charge him.

Norm Wolfinger, the prosecutor who recused himself from the case, had planned to convene a grand jury to review the case April 10.

It is also unclear when the Justice Department will make its decision.

Q: What is George Zimmerman's racial and ethnic background?

A: Zimmerman's father is white, and his mother is Hispanic.
 
-Vincenzo-;4227004 said:
and i have the feeling we are seeing the new generation of johnny cochrans once this case begins, the trayvon lawyers seem to be really on their grind if you read who they are...good shit

but i would have loved to see the original cochran roast these racists on the other side in the case, he would have had a field day with them. may he rest in peace, on of the greatest we ever saw

That's why I posted the link. I know some people on other boards have questioned Crump's ability just because of his speech impediment. Can't deny what the brotha has done.
 
http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/201...-signs-of-fight-on-trayvons-hands/?hpt=ng_mid

Funeral director saw no signs of fight on Trayvon’s hands

The funeral director who prepared Trayvon Martin’s body for burial told HLN’s Nancy Grace Wednesday that he did not see any cuts or bruises on the teen’s hands that would have been indicative of a struggle with George Zimmerman.

Richard Kurtz of Roy Mizell and Kurtz Funeral Home in Fort Lauderdale said there appeared to be a gunshot wound in Martin’s upper chest area, but he received the body after the autopsy was completed so it was difficult to tell whether he had other injuries. He also could not determine the bullet’s entry or exit point.

“As for his hands and knuckles, I didn’t see any evidence he had been fighting anybody,” Kurtz said.

Citing police sources, the Orlando Sentinel reported that Zimmerman told investigators Martin punched him and slammed his head into the ground repeatedly before he fired the shot that killed the unarmed 17-year-old. He claimed he shot Martin in self-defense, and he has not been charged in the case at this point.

While Kurtz is not a forensics expert, the funeral director said he has handled the bodies of many homicide victims in his career. This case in particular affected him as he learned more about what happened to Trayvon Martin and how the case was handled.

“I think the police investigation was the most unprofessional one I've ever seen in my lifetime,” Kurtz said.

For the latest on the Trayvon Martin case, watch "Nancy Grace" Wednesday at 8 pm and 10 p.m. ET on HLN.
 

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