Trayvon Martin Case.... the plot thickens

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riddlerap;4217000 said:
lion_heart said:
matt-;4216802 said:
riddlerap;4216787 said:
at this point this has definitely become one of those blindly support a certain cause things. (for the majority of blacks, anyway)

they decided before all the facts came out to feel a certain way, and decide innocence/guilt before knowing everything.

Jenna 6/ duke lacrosse all over again?

So you want to deal with facts then lets deal with them. Trayvon was minding his own fucking business FACT, Zimmerman called the police becuz Trayvon was a black male wearing a hoodie in a gated community FACT, Zimmerman kept following Trayvon when the police specifically told him not too FACT, Zimmerman after an altercation with Trayvon shot that young man DEAD FACT.

why do you bring up the gated community and "black" male part when it is clear that 1. the neighborhood had ALMOST a majority of blacks living in it (49% i believe). and 2. its clear Zimmerman is not racist, or else he wouldnt have spent time tutoring blacks, among other minorities as well. and what about the other black males he found that he called the police on.. he never shot any of those.

to your other points..its not illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher says. not to my knowledge anyway. and your last point means nothing if Zimmerman felt he was in danger of dying, which.. seems pretty likely if someone is on top of you, bloodying you, etc.

How is it clear that black people make up 49% of that gated community? Where are your numbers to back that up? I’ve seen no evidence that he tutored black kids aside from the website liveleak.com and they gave no source to that claim so post a link to back that up also (thanks). Also I guess Jim Burwell wasn’t a racist becuz he drove black children to church and such while he was a high ranking member of the KKK chapter in Detroit. You are only proving my point. He called police on other black males he thought looked “suspicious” how many of them led to charges? And what was so suspicious about them that he felt the need to call the police on them. How many suspicious white people (or any other ethnicity) did he see walking the community?

And to my last point I did not say it was illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher told him. The point is they told him NOT TO FOLLOW and he did it ANYWAYS. He believed he was above the law and that is part of the problem.

 
lion_heart said:
riddlerap;4217000 said:
lion_heart said:
matt-;4216802 said:
riddlerap;4216787 said:
at this point this has definitely become one of those blindly support a certain cause things. (for the majority of blacks, anyway)

they decided before all the facts came out to feel a certain way, and decide innocence/guilt before knowing everything.

Jenna 6/ duke lacrosse all over again?

So you want to deal with facts then lets deal with them. Trayvon was minding his own fucking business FACT, Zimmerman called the police becuz Trayvon was a black male wearing a hoodie in a gated community FACT, Zimmerman kept following Trayvon when the police specifically told him not too FACT, Zimmerman after an altercation with Trayvon shot that young man DEAD FACT.

why do you bring up the gated community and "black" male part when it is clear that 1. the neighborhood had ALMOST a majority of blacks living in it (49% i believe). and 2. its clear Zimmerman is not racist, or else he wouldnt have spent time tutoring blacks, among other minorities as well. and what about the other black males he found that he called the police on.. he never shot any of those.

to your other points..its not illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher says. not to my knowledge anyway. and your last point means nothing if Zimmerman felt he was in danger of dying, which.. seems pretty likely if someone is on top of you, bloodying you, etc.

How is it clear that black people make up 49% of that gated community? Where are your numbers to back that up? I’ve seen no evidence that he tutored black kids aside from the website liveleak.com and they gave no source to that claim so post a link to back that up also (thanks). Also I guess Jim Burwell wasn’t a racist becuz he drove black children to church and such while he was a high ranking member of the KKK chapter in Detroit. You are only proving my point. He called police on other black males he thought looked “suspicious” how many of them led to charges? And what was so suspicious about them that he felt the need to call the police on them. How many suspicious white people (or any other ethnicity) did he see walking the community?

And to my last point I did not say it was illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher told him. The point is they told him NOT TO FOLLOW and he did it ANYWAYS. He believed he was above the law and that is part of the problem.

ive heard multiple people say that was the % of blacks in that community, who knows, maybe its wrong, i doubt it though. his best friend is black, and was sticking up for him recently on the news. i really doubt he'd be racist.

also, Zimmerman has called the police on every kind of person, no matter their race. that proves he isnt racist or targeting blacks, and its not as if he went over and above his duties as a neighborhood watch person by following every single black, or doing something excessive to every black "suspicious" person he saw. this was a rare case.
 
riddlerap;4220848 said:
lion_heart said:
riddlerap;4217000 said:
lion_heart said:
matt-;4216802 said:
riddlerap;4216787 said:
at this point this has definitely become one of those blindly support a certain cause things. (for the majority of blacks, anyway)

they decided before all the facts came out to feel a certain way, and decide innocence/guilt before knowing everything.

Jenna 6/ duke lacrosse all over again?

So you want to deal with facts then lets deal with them. Trayvon was minding his own fucking business FACT, Zimmerman called the police becuz Trayvon was a black male wearing a hoodie in a gated community FACT, Zimmerman kept following Trayvon when the police specifically told him not too FACT, Zimmerman after an altercation with Trayvon shot that young man DEAD FACT.

why do you bring up the gated community and "black" male part when it is clear that 1. the neighborhood had ALMOST a majority of blacks living in it (49% i believe). and 2. its clear Zimmerman is not racist, or else he wouldnt have spent time tutoring blacks, among other minorities as well. and what about the other black males he found that he called the police on.. he never shot any of those.

to your other points..its not illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher says. not to my knowledge anyway. and your last point means nothing if Zimmerman felt he was in danger of dying, which.. seems pretty likely if someone is on top of you, bloodying you, etc.

How is it clear that black people make up 49% of that gated community? Where are your numbers to back that up? I’ve seen no evidence that he tutored black kids aside from the website liveleak.com and they gave no source to that claim so post a link to back that up also (thanks). Also I guess Jim Burwell wasn’t a racist becuz he drove black children to church and such while he was a high ranking member of the KKK chapter in Detroit. You are only proving my point. He called police on other black males he thought looked “suspicious” how many of them led to charges? And what was so suspicious about them that he felt the need to call the police on them. How many suspicious white people (or any other ethnicity) did he see walking the community?

And to my last point I did not say it was illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher told him. The point is they told him NOT TO FOLLOW and he did it ANYWAYS. He believed he was above the law and that is part of the problem.

ive heard multiple people say that was the % of blacks in that community, who knows, maybe its wrong, i doubt it though. his best friend is black, and was sticking up for him recently on the news. i really doubt he'd be racist.

also, Zimmerman has called the police on every kind of person, no matter their race. that proves he isnt racist or targeting blacks, and its not as if he went over and above his duties as a neighborhood watch person by following every single black, or doing something excessive to every black "suspicious" person he saw. this was a rare case.

His best friend looks like Jesse Lee Peterson, Larry Elder, and Uncle Ruckus.
 
riddlerap;4220848 said:
lion_heart said:
riddlerap;4217000 said:
lion_heart said:
matt-;4216802 said:
riddlerap;4216787 said:
at this point this has definitely become one of those blindly support a certain cause things. (for the majority of blacks, anyway)

they decided before all the facts came out to feel a certain way, and decide innocence/guilt before knowing everything.

Jenna 6/ duke lacrosse all over again?

So you want to deal with facts then lets deal with them. Trayvon was minding his own fucking business FACT, Zimmerman called the police becuz Trayvon was a black male wearing a hoodie in a gated community FACT, Zimmerman kept following Trayvon when the police specifically told him not too FACT, Zimmerman after an altercation with Trayvon shot that young man DEAD FACT.

why do you bring up the gated community and "black" male part when it is clear that 1. the neighborhood had ALMOST a majority of blacks living in it (49% i believe). and 2. its clear Zimmerman is not racist, or else he wouldnt have spent time tutoring blacks, among other minorities as well. and what about the other black males he found that he called the police on.. he never shot any of those.

to your other points..its not illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher says. not to my knowledge anyway. and your last point means nothing if Zimmerman felt he was in danger of dying, which.. seems pretty likely if someone is on top of you, bloodying you, etc.

How is it clear that black people make up 49% of that gated community? Where are your numbers to back that up? I’ve seen no evidence that he tutored black kids aside from the website liveleak.com and they gave no source to that claim so post a link to back that up also (thanks). Also I guess Jim Burwell wasn’t a racist becuz he drove black children to church and such while he was a high ranking member of the KKK chapter in Detroit. You are only proving my point. He called police on other black males he thought looked “suspicious” how many of them led to charges? And what was so suspicious about them that he felt the need to call the police on them. How many suspicious white people (or any other ethnicity) did he see walking the community?

And to my last point I did not say it was illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher told him. The point is they told him NOT TO FOLLOW and he did it ANYWAYS. He believed he was above the law and that is part of the problem.

ive heard multiple people say that was the % of blacks in that community, who knows, maybe its wrong, i doubt it though. his best friend is black, and was sticking up for him recently on the news. i really doubt he'd be racist.

also, Zimmerman has called the police on every kind of person, no matter their race. that proves he isnt racist or targeting blacks, and its not as if he went over and above his duties as a neighborhood watch person by following every single black, or doing something excessive to every black "suspicious" person he saw. this was a rare case.

I'll have to use that next time i kill a cracka.

between that and the "i have white friends" defense i'm sure the pigs will give me my gun back and not even charge me with anything.
 
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riddlerap;4220848 said:
lion_heart said:
riddlerap;4217000 said:
lion_heart said:
matt-;4216802 said:
riddlerap;4216787 said:
at this point this has definitely become one of those blindly support a certain cause things. (for the majority of blacks, anyway)

they decided before all the facts came out to feel a certain way, and decide innocence/guilt before knowing everything.

Jenna 6/ duke lacrosse all over again?

So you want to deal with facts then lets deal with them. Trayvon was minding his own fucking business FACT, Zimmerman called the police becuz Trayvon was a black male wearing a hoodie in a gated community FACT, Zimmerman kept following Trayvon when the police specifically told him not too FACT, Zimmerman after an altercation with Trayvon shot that young man DEAD FACT.

why do you bring up the gated community and "black" male part when it is clear that 1. the neighborhood had ALMOST a majority of blacks living in it (49% i believe). and 2. its clear Zimmerman is not racist, or else he wouldnt have spent time tutoring blacks, among other minorities as well. and what about the other black males he found that he called the police on.. he never shot any of those.

to your other points..its not illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher says. not to my knowledge anyway. and your last point means nothing if Zimmerman felt he was in danger of dying, which.. seems pretty likely if someone is on top of you, bloodying you, etc.

How is it clear that black people make up 49% of that gated community? Where are your numbers to back that up? I’ve seen no evidence that he tutored black kids aside from the website liveleak.com and they gave no source to that claim so post a link to back that up also (thanks). Also I guess Jim Burwell wasn’t a racist becuz he drove black children to church and such while he was a high ranking member of the KKK chapter in Detroit. You are only proving my point. He called police on other black males he thought looked “suspicious” how many of them led to charges? And what was so suspicious about them that he felt the need to call the police on them. How many suspicious white people (or any other ethnicity) did he see walking the community?

And to my last point I did not say it was illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher told him. The point is they told him NOT TO FOLLOW and he did it ANYWAYS. He believed he was above the law and that is part of the problem.

ive heard multiple people say that was the % of blacks in that community, who knows, maybe its wrong, i doubt it though. his best friend is black, and was sticking up for him recently on the news. i really doubt he'd be racist.

also, Zimmerman has called the police on every kind of person, no matter their race. that proves he isnt racist or targeting blacks, and its not as if he went over and above his duties as a neighborhood watch person by following every single black, or doing something excessive to every black "suspicious" person he saw. this was a rare case.

Absolutely no proof that that black people make up the majority in that gated community. Name me one (or more) gated community that black people make up the majority in the United States?

By that logic Dog the Bounty hunter isn't a racist becuz his pastor happens to be black. He has one black friend means nothing to me in the context of Treyvon being murdered. Where are all his other black friends at? The I'm not racist I have black friend(s) seems to have come into play here and also have you seen his interviews? Sounds like he lacks intelligence (my personal opinion). Talking about how Coonies (or Goonies) is a term of endearment in the black community. Since when?

Who are these everyone you talk about? He made numerous calls to the police but nowhere does it say he did it to any non black children. He is NOT the neighborhood watch person thats been refuted plenty of times in the media quoating people in the neighborhood.
 
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riddlerap;4220848 said:
lion_heart said:
riddlerap;4217000 said:
lion_heart said:
matt-;4216802 said:
riddlerap;4216787 said:
at this point this has definitely become one of those blindly support a certain cause things. (for the majority of blacks, anyway)

they decided before all the facts came out to feel a certain way, and decide innocence/guilt before knowing everything.

Jenna 6/ duke lacrosse all over again?

So you want to deal with facts then lets deal with them. Trayvon was minding his own fucking business FACT, Zimmerman called the police becuz Trayvon was a black male wearing a hoodie in a gated community FACT, Zimmerman kept following Trayvon when the police specifically told him not too FACT, Zimmerman after an altercation with Trayvon shot that young man DEAD FACT.

why do you bring up the gated community and "black" male part when it is clear that 1. the neighborhood had ALMOST a majority of blacks living in it (49% i believe). and 2. its clear Zimmerman is not racist, or else he wouldnt have spent time tutoring blacks, among other minorities as well. and what about the other black males he found that he called the police on.. he never shot any of those.

to your other points..its not illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher says. not to my knowledge anyway. and your last point means nothing if Zimmerman felt he was in danger of dying, which.. seems pretty likely if someone is on top of you, bloodying you, etc.

How is it clear that black people make up 49% of that gated community? Where are your numbers to back that up? I’ve seen no evidence that he tutored black kids aside from the website liveleak.com and they gave no source to that claim so post a link to back that up also (thanks). Also I guess Jim Burwell wasn’t a racist becuz he drove black children to church and such while he was a high ranking member of the KKK chapter in Detroit. You are only proving my point. He called police on other black males he thought looked “suspicious” how many of them led to charges? And what was so suspicious about them that he felt the need to call the police on them. How many suspicious white people (or any other ethnicity) did he see walking the community?

And to my last point I did not say it was illegal to do something other than what a 911 dispatcher told him. The point is they told him NOT TO FOLLOW and he did it ANYWAYS. He believed he was above the law and that is part of the problem.

ive heard multiple people say that was the % of blacks in that community, who knows, maybe its wrong, i doubt it though. his best friend is black, and was sticking up for him recently on the news. i really doubt he'd be racist.

also, Zimmerman has called the police on every kind of person, no matter their race. that proves he isnt racist or targeting blacks, and its not as if he went over and above his duties as a neighborhood watch person by following every single black, or doing something excessive to every black "suspicious" person he saw. this was a rare case.

The percentage is 49% of the community is white; meaning 51% of the community is minority. Not necessarily black.

And get out of here w/ that Zimmerman has called the police on every kind of person. Only news related to his calls that I've seen release is that he made 46 such calls in the past year. I very highly doubt it's been on every race & you're not going to be to convince otherwise unless you provide a valid source for that.

 
Max-b;4220618 said:
I know what cole is saying they got this young pics when hes about 14 wearing a abercrombie shirt...doggie looked mad young to be 17 n that pic..he 6"2 160...i im 6"3 when i was 17 i weighed about 175.:.still fucked up what happened..

He don't really look that much different from his young pics to that hoodie pic, or any other pics of him at 17 or whatever.
 
if he called the cops so many times, i wonder how many times they responded and how quick they were to respond. Its probable that he didn't trust the police would respond effectively
 
chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-florida-racismbre82r0sn-20120328,0,4024180.story

U.S. police detective says racism 'alive and well'

MIAMI (Reuters) - A black veteran U.S. police officer said "racism is alive and well" in the United States and is evident in the case of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed African American teenager gunned down by a neighborhood watch volunteer in central Florida last month.

George Zimmerman, the white Hispanic crime watch volunteer, has managed to avoid arrest under Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law because he said he shot and killed Martin in self-defense.

But Miami Police Department homicide detective Sergeant Ervens Ford, who has joined in public protests to demand justice for Martin, said in an interview that the law does not apply in the racially tinged case.

"He (Martin) would have had a better 'Stand Your Ground' (case) than Zimmerman," Ford said.

"It does not apply when you chase after a person, when you, essentially, are the aggressor," he said.

He was referring to the fact that Zimmerman, 28, said in a 911 call that he was chasing the 17-year-old Martin shortly before the shooting because he looked to be "up to no good" and was dressed in a "hoodie" hooded sweatshirt
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On the call, Zimmerman had also identified Martin as a black youth.

The "Stand Your Ground" law, passed in 2005, greatly expanded the legal definition of self-defense in Florida. Similar laws have since been adopted by 23 other states, according to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

EVENTS STILL IN DISPUTE

Events leading up to the killing of Martin in a gated community in Sanford, Florida, on February 26 are still open to dispute.

Whatever actually happened, Ford said, Martin undoubtedly would have been arrested if he had killed the fair-skinned Zimmerman. Instead, he wound up on the wrong end of the 9mm semi-automatic handgun that Zimmerman carried concealed in his waistband.

"I've been working homicide since '96 and that's my personal opinion," said Ford. "You're not going to give a black person the benefit of the doubt. And it's unfortunate, but that's just a fact."

"It's unfair, racism is alive and well," he added.

"I have some colleagues who disagree with me wholeheartedly, and of course I have to remind them that I was a black man way before I started carrying a badge," Ford said
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Zimmerman's lawyer, Craig Sonner, has said his client acted out of self-defense, not racial bigotry. "This was not a racially motivated situation," Sonner told Reuters on Saturday.

Ford, 46, said he drove more than four hours north from Miami to Sanford on Monday to participate along with thousands of other people in a protest against the authorities' handling of the Martin case.

As a black father, he acknowledged having strong personal feelings about the shooting in the Orlando suburb because one of his three children looks just like Martin and "easily, easily" could have been Zimmerman's victim.

"That's a fear of reality," Ford said.

"I didn't give up my constitutional rights when I became a cop. If anything, I became a cop because I wanted to ensure mine and everybody else's constitutional rights," he said.

"Those who have called and are telling me it's unprofessional to protest and take a position on this, they're the morons."

Ford said his advice to his own children was to try to avoid any sign of conflict, especially with law enforcement officials.

"It's not a conflict that young black males are going to win. They're going to lose every time, unfortunately," he said
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The Prodigalson;4221845 said:
Don't know why niggaz riot any way. They only tear up there own neighbor hoods.

yep and "planning to riot" is ignorant and criminal in this day and age especially when alot of these folks dont stand for anything
 
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I already got my front-end loader Washing/dryer set on order, and a couple of 60 inch LED/3D flatscreens too. For when Zimmerman gets off and the riots start. I got folks that live in Sanford.
 
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This is a political cartoon drawn by Stephanie Eiser, one of the students involved with the Daily Texan, the University of Texas-Austin's student paper. As you can see, the cartoon is racist drivel that attempts to provide commentary about the murder of Trayvon Martin.

The paper's website has pulled the cartoon, but not before the Internet grabbed it so that the Texan and Eiser can be adequately shamed. So, let the shaming begin.
 

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