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Sage Wonder;c-9993341 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-9992856 said:
Lux PR team is goat...fam now got 8 battles on cam...60% of them shits debatable or L's yet niggas still acting like he on GOD status

Nah each battle he shows us some GOAT worthy penmanship but my thing is it's getting too diluted. In the words of Hollow, he up there playing "words with friends", he aint getting mean with it like he used to. The way he broke down calico and assassinated his character, we need that. That relentless swagger against Miles like he was trying to leave the room with his head, that's what made "Gray Hoodie" a legacy. His last two battles he aint been talking dirty enough.

Yea but 60% of his battles are L's or debatable tho....I like Lux as a battle I just hate how niggas overrate him for the sake of overrate him...nigga truly be acting like if battle rap was a video game...LuX d be the final boss
 
Lux vs Roc makes more sense before JC. JC moved up to top of the mid tier. Roc at least is top tier and styles might make a more interesting dynamic.
 
Lux/JC is WAY more appealing than Lux/Hitman.

I really don't even understand how you even think that's a good matchup.

Cal and Ars battles made sense, him battling Hitman will never make sense to me.
 
CoolJoe;c-9993438 said:
Lux/JC is WAY more appealing than Lux/Hitman.

I really don't even understand how you even think that's a good matchup.

Cal and Ars battles made sense, him battling Hitman will never make sense to me.

What made Cal make more sense than Hitman? Cal called out Lux and Lux accepted. JC called out Lux and now it makes sense? So all it takes is if Hitman calls out Lux?
 
gifted;c-9993433 said:
Lux vs Roc makes more sense before JC. JC moved up to top of the mid tier. Roc at least is top tier and styles might make a more interesting dynamic.

They're related so it probably won't ever happen.
 
5th Letter;c-9993525 said:
CoolJoe;c-9993438 said:
Lux/JC is WAY more appealing than Lux/Hitman.

I really don't even understand how you even think that's a good matchup.

Cal and Ars battles made sense, him battling Hitman will never make sense to me.

What made Cal make more sense than Hitman? Cal called out Lux and Lux accepted. JC called out Lux and now it makes sense? So all it takes is if Hitman calls out Lux?

I would never want to see it, personally, but yes, I would like both to show interest in a battle of that magnitude before URL pushes that button.

Cal was coming off bodying Math, who was still a top nigga at the time, at SM1, in which he called out Lux.

Hitman has never brought up Lux, unless I'm tripping.

Shit, I'd rather see Verb vs Lux, because Verb been popping shit about Lux for years, even though Verb has clearly fell off.
 
clairvoyance;c-9993102 said:
5th Letter;c-9992655 said:
CoolJoe;c-9992585 said:
Hitman and Lux doesn't sound interesting at all.

Hitman/Roc would be crazy, that should be URL's next focus for both.

But Lux would be more motivated to take on Hitman, he even threw a shot at him in the Calicoe battle. So far whenever Lux speaks on battling JC his reaction is like :confused:

I don't know wether you're serious or trolling but no real battlerap fan would request LUX vs Hitman Holla,that matchup makes absolutely no sense. What would that battle do for his legacy.

Everyday y'all come up with a new excuse for Lux to avoid JC. Now people are only worthy to battle Lux based on his reaction after getting called out??? The pedestal y'all put this man on is way too high for a so called Goat with a shaky track record.

Meanwhile JC has been testing his skills with credible top pen battle rappers for the past couple or so yrs and "winning" with a few 'debatable' losses. Also giving tons of up and comers a shot throughout his career like a true gladiator of the sport suppose to. The kind of back to back sparring that enhances your craft and puts on for the culture (like CHARLIE CLIPS and Danny Myers do)

The issue is the generic fan thinks if your battles are outside of URL it doesnt count for much and that's the problem. That's why you have some folks who don't have a clue talking about "JC only has 3 wins,now all of sudden he deserves lux?" People need to do they're homework on JC before approaching this JC vs LUX discussion.

The noise JC is making on URL is not gas its people really appreciating the fact theres a battle rapper who can give 3 quality rounds on a consistent basis while giving a good performance. No shade but theres alot of top tiers who cant do that.

Fans know that and that's why they are hanging on to every word JC is saying cause they know even his setups hit hard. How is someone from Pontiac,calling out a Harlem hero in NY,with only 2 battles in before SM6 on URL getting gassed???? That doesn't make sense...JC has a very unique way of writing,Im sorry but it's his pen that's making a name for himself not gas.

The more JC climbs that URL ladder,the more fans are gonna demand lux and it's gonna be the fans who are gonna snatch him off that throne if he doesn't face JC in due time. So wether lux is motivated or not,he better get ready for JC or have those legs kicked out from under that high chair he's looking down from.

I feel wat y sayn dont get me wrong .. But all that elaborate typing and great explaining and breaking down of your opinion..wont change the fact that lux is a pioneer of on cam battles 106 etc... a GOD in harlem for the work he has put in 8 battles on cam or wateva u wanna call it...but honestly his legacy is based on wat OTHER dope ass battlers believe to b the GOAT... Wonder y?? Cuz craftsmen and artist recognize a rare talent hince y he is the gold standard... I respect opinion dont get me wrong. But its a reason y EVERYBODY gunnin for beloved.... Its like ok im beating the game!! Who the final boss before i play again???LUX!!! U can ask a fighter or athlete their opinion on somebody that is their peer or contemporary and is also great, and if that man is identified throughout his craft or area of expertise in higher regard than others than its hard to argue wit mike tyson wen he tell you lennox lewis was dope as a mere spectator who are we to disagree when thats almost consensus amongst the players/fighter and has video evidence to prove it as well... Im high off da good kush!!! I respect ya g tho!!
 
gifted;c-9988059 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-9987123 said:
gifted;c-9986955 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-9986508 said:
gifted;c-9986391 said:
JC is nice with the pen but still a whole tier below Lux. Shit is plain disrespectful.

Why? JC s been on an incredible run lately....damn near 3 0 against the best pens in battle rap rn ( TreZ, Chess, Nitty) plus he shit just been fire....LuX on the other hand been catching L's and debatables since Calicoe....

Again Trez Chess Nitty are all a tier or two below. Let's see how JC do against a Hollow, Clips, Ars Calicoe etc. I remember him losing to Clips and Ars I think.

the bolded is based on name recognition to mo not actual bars but u also have to think JC finally figured it out so he aint the same as he was then

Like I said I like JC and respect his pen game (top 5) but y'all way too quick to be saying he better than Lux. I can't respect that. He's got ill written, clear enunciated bars and refined his performance. But he ain't believable with the gun bars. Sorry and that is a factor for me. He got the Ryda syndrome. QP sons got the same issue.

I believe QP sons before I believe a break dancing elf
 
Maywood;c-9990750 said:
gifted;c-9988059 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-9987123 said:
gifted;c-9986955 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-9986508 said:
gifted;c-9986391 said:
JC is nice with the pen but still a whole tier below Lux. Shit is plain disrespectful.

Why? JC s been on an incredible run lately....damn near 3 0 against the best pens in battle rap rn ( TreZ, Chess, Nitty) plus he shit just been fire....LuX on the other hand been catching L's and debatables since Calicoe....

Again Trez Chess Nitty are all a tier or two below. Let's see how JC do against a Hollow, Clips, Ars Calicoe etc. I remember him losing to Clips and Ars I think.

the bolded is based on name recognition to mo not actual bars but u also have to think JC finally figured it out so he aint the same as he was then

Like I said I like JC and respect his pen game (top 5) but y'all way too quick to be saying he better than Lux. I can't respect that. He's got ill written, clear enunciated bars and refined his performance. But he ain't believable with the gun bars. Sorry and that is a factor for me. He got the Ryda syndrome. QP sons got the same issue.

The shit some Of yall say to support your arguments. So Basically U basing this shit off the cat looks, Like they don't look the part to say a Gun Line, Man Please correct me If I'm wrong...This Is Laughable at Best

Nigga look like a bitch
 
CoolJoe;c-9993599 said:
5th Letter;c-9993525 said:
CoolJoe;c-9993438 said:
Lux/JC is WAY more appealing than Lux/Hitman.

I really don't even understand how you even think that's a good matchup.

Cal and Ars battles made sense, him battling Hitman will never make sense to me.

What made Cal make more sense than Hitman? Cal called out Lux and Lux accepted. JC called out Lux and now it makes sense? So all it takes is if Hitman calls out Lux?

I would never want to see it, personally, but yes, I would like both to show interest in a battle of that magnitude before URL pushes that button.

Cal was coming off bodying Math, who was still a top nigga at the time, at SM1, in which he called out Lux.

Hitman has never brought up Lux, unless I'm tripping.

Shit, I'd rather see Verb vs Lux, because Verb been popping shit about Lux for years, even though Verb has clearly fell off.

Lux took a shot at Hitman in the Cal battle. It seems like the argument for why it doesn't make sense is simply because neither party has mentioned battling each other. I'm just saying that for me I'd rather see Hitman get a Lux battle before JC. Verb has been losing way too much he has managed his career poorly imo.
 
clairvoyance;c-9993102 said:
5th Letter;c-9992655 said:
CoolJoe;c-9992585 said:
Hitman and Lux doesn't sound interesting at all.

Hitman/Roc would be crazy, that should be URL's next focus for both.

But Lux would be more motivated to take on Hitman, he even threw a shot at him in the Calicoe battle. So far whenever Lux speaks on battling JC his reaction is like :confused:

I don't know wether you're serious or trolling but no real battlerap fan would request LUX vs Hitman Holla,that matchup makes absolutely no sense. What would that battle do for his legacy.

Everyday y'all come up with a new excuse for Lux to avoid JC. Now people are only worthy to battle Lux based on his reaction after getting called out??? The pedestal y'all put this man on is way too high for a so called Goat with a shaky track record.

Meanwhile JC has been testing his skills with credible top pen battle rappers for the past couple or so yrs and "winning" with a few 'debatable' losses. Also giving tons of up and comers a shot throughout his career like a true gladiator of the sport suppose to. The kind of back to back sparring that enhances your craft and puts on for the culture (like CHARLIE CLIPS and Danny Myers do)

The issue is the generic fan thinks if your battles are outside of URL it doesnt count for much and that's the problem. That's why you have some folks who don't have a clue talking about "JC only has 3 wins,now all of sudden he deserves lux?" People need to do they're homework on JC before approaching this JC vs LUX discussion.

The noise JC is making on URL is not gas its people really appreciating the fact theres a battle rapper who can give 3 quality rounds on a consistent basis while giving a good performance. No shade but theres alot of top tiers who cant do that.

Fans know that and that's why they are hanging on to every word JC is saying cause they know even his setups hit hard. How is someone from Pontiac,calling out a Harlem hero in NY,with only 2 battles in before SM6 on URL getting gassed???? That doesn't make sense...JC has a very unique way of writing,Im sorry but it's his pen that's making a name for himself not gas.

The more JC climbs that URL ladder,the more fans are gonna demand lux and it's gonna be the fans who are gonna snatch him off that throne if he doesn't face JC in due time. So wether lux is motivated or not,he better get ready for JC or have those legs kicked out from under that high chair he's looking down from.

Talk That Shit Clair !!!!!

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Elzo69Renaissance;c-9992856 said:
Lux PR team is goat...fam now got 8 battles on cam...60% of them shits debatable or L's yet niggas still acting like he on GOD status

Realest shit U Ever Said...All Facts
 
5th Letter;c-9993372 said:
Sage Wonder;c-9993347 said:
5th Letter;c-9993343 said:
clairvoyance;c-9993102 said:
5th Letter;c-9992655 said:
CoolJoe;c-9992585 said:
Hitman and Lux doesn't sound interesting at all.

Hitman/Roc would be crazy, that should be URL's next focus for both.

But Lux would be more motivated to take on Hitman, he even threw a shot at him in the Calicoe battle. So far whenever Lux speaks on battling JC his reaction is like :confused:

I don't know wether you're serious or trolling but no real battlerap fan would request LUX vs Hitman Holla,that matchup makes absolutely no sense. What would that battle do for his legacy.

Everyday y'all come up with a new excuse for Lux to avoid JC. Now people are only worthy to battle Lux based on his reaction after getting called out??? The pedestal y'all put this man on is way too high for a so called Goat with a shaky track record.

Meanwhile JC has been testing his skills with credible top pen battle rappers for the past couple or so yrs and "winning" with a few 'debatable' losses. Also giving tons of up and comers a shot throughout his career like a true gladiator of the sport suppose to. The kind of back to back sparring that enhances your craft and puts on for the culture (like CHARLIE CLIPS and Danny Myers do)

The issue is the generic fan thinks if your battles are outside of URL it doesnt count for much and that's the problem. That's why you have some folks who don't have a clue talking about "JC only has 3 wins,now all of sudden he deserves lux?" People need to do they're homework on JC before approaching this JC vs LUX discussion.

The noise JC is making on URL is not gas its people really appreciating the fact theres a battle rapper who can give 3 quality rounds on a consistent basis while giving a good performance. No shade but theres alot of top tiers who cant do that.

Fans know that and that's why they are hanging on to every word JC is saying cause they know even his setups hit hard. How is someone from Pontiac,calling out a Harlem hero in NY,with only 2 battles in before SM6 on URL getting gassed???? That doesn't make sense...JC has a very unique way of writing,Im sorry but it's his pen that's making a name for himself not gas.

The more JC climbs that URL ladder,the more fans are gonna demand lux and it's gonna be the fans who are gonna snatch him off that throne if he doesn't face JC in due time. So wether lux is motivated or not,he better get ready for JC or have those legs kicked out from under that high chair he's looking down from.

None of this negates the fact that Lux is not motivated to battle JC despite him giving him credit for being dope. I'd rather see Lux battle someone who will motivate him. Not taking nothing away from JC because he's put in work. But JC does not make any sense. We get a Lux battle once a year and when you're in his position you have to be more strategic with his choice of battles. Hitman has been one of the top dudes in battle rap for 6/7 years now, he's one of the highest viewed battlers and he has had some of the most memorable moments in battle rap. Dude is on tv and is somewhat known outside of battle rap. Plus like I said before Lux threw a shot at him (along with Verb and Ill) Fuck you mean that battle don't make sense? Hitman has done everythng JC has done and has been top tier for way longer. JC just became top tier this year after years of mid tier status. Hitman and a few others deserve a Lux battle before JC does.

Idk where you get this impression. He's done multiple interviews about JC after SM6 happened, and he seems very much interested in what that battle can bring out of him. Lux vs Hitman makes no sense what so ever style wise, styles make fights. Hitman vs Roc is the better look.

Hitman and Roc is gonna happen next year unless Hitman and URL fall out again. But anyway if Lux can battle Calicoe and Ars who are both average lyrically and rely on performance then how is Hitman any different? How does JC make any more sense than Hitman? Based on the interviews post SM 6 he didn't sound motivated to do it, he gave JC his credit for having a great pen that's pretty much it.

Calico was smack's top gun at that time and was calling for Lux who was looking for a return, that made sense. He did Arsonal the favor giving him a good retirement battle, also the fact they have a lot of history so that angle caused some intrigue. Hitman Holla makes no sense at this point in time whatsoever.
 
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gifted;c-9993433 said:
Lux vs Roc makes more sense before JC. JC moved up to top of the mid tier. Roc at least is top tier and styles might make a more interesting dynamic.

Wouldn't be mad at this battle. Reason why JC makes sense is because it would be his biggest pen vs pen challenge to date. And this is not a battle he can afford to lose in the building.
 

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