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Sage Wonder;c-9994230 said:
5th Letter;c-9993372 said:
Sage Wonder;c-9993347 said:
5th Letter;c-9993343 said:
clairvoyance;c-9993102 said:
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CoolJoe;c-9992585 said:
Hitman and Lux doesn't sound interesting at all.

Hitman/Roc would be crazy, that should be URL's next focus for both.

But Lux would be more motivated to take on Hitman, he even threw a shot at him in the Calicoe battle. So far whenever Lux speaks on battling JC his reaction is like :confused:

I don't know wether you're serious or trolling but no real battlerap fan would request LUX vs Hitman Holla,that matchup makes absolutely no sense. What would that battle do for his legacy.

Everyday y'all come up with a new excuse for Lux to avoid JC. Now people are only worthy to battle Lux based on his reaction after getting called out??? The pedestal y'all put this man on is way too high for a so called Goat with a shaky track record.

Meanwhile JC has been testing his skills with credible top pen battle rappers for the past couple or so yrs and "winning" with a few 'debatable' losses. Also giving tons of up and comers a shot throughout his career like a true gladiator of the sport suppose to. The kind of back to back sparring that enhances your craft and puts on for the culture (like CHARLIE CLIPS and Danny Myers do)

The issue is the generic fan thinks if your battles are outside of URL it doesnt count for much and that's the problem. That's why you have some folks who don't have a clue talking about "JC only has 3 wins,now all of sudden he deserves lux?" People need to do they're homework on JC before approaching this JC vs LUX discussion.

The noise JC is making on URL is not gas its people really appreciating the fact theres a battle rapper who can give 3 quality rounds on a consistent basis while giving a good performance. No shade but theres alot of top tiers who cant do that.

Fans know that and that's why they are hanging on to every word JC is saying cause they know even his setups hit hard. How is someone from Pontiac,calling out a Harlem hero in NY,with only 2 battles in before SM6 on URL getting gassed???? That doesn't make sense...JC has a very unique way of writing,Im sorry but it's his pen that's making a name for himself not gas.

The more JC climbs that URL ladder,the more fans are gonna demand lux and it's gonna be the fans who are gonna snatch him off that throne if he doesn't face JC in due time. So wether lux is motivated or not,he better get ready for JC or have those legs kicked out from under that high chair he's looking down from.

None of this negates the fact that Lux is not motivated to battle JC despite him giving him credit for being dope. I'd rather see Lux battle someone who will motivate him. Not taking nothing away from JC because he's put in work. But JC does not make any sense. We get a Lux battle once a year and when you're in his position you have to be more strategic with his choice of battles. Hitman has been one of the top dudes in battle rap for 6/7 years now, he's one of the highest viewed battlers and he has had some of the most memorable moments in battle rap. Dude is on tv and is somewhat known outside of battle rap. Plus like I said before Lux threw a shot at him (along with Verb and Ill) Fuck you mean that battle don't make sense? Hitman has done everythng JC has done and has been top tier for way longer. JC just became top tier this year after years of mid tier status. Hitman and a few others deserve a Lux battle before JC does.

Idk where you get this impression. He's done multiple interviews about JC after SM6 happened, and he seems very much interested in what that battle can bring out of him. Lux vs Hitman makes no sense what so ever style wise, styles make fights. Hitman vs Roc is the better look.

Hitman and Roc is gonna happen next year unless Hitman and URL fall out again. But anyway if Lux can battle Calicoe and Ars who are both average lyrically and rely on performance then how is Hitman any different? How does JC make any more sense than Hitman? Based on the interviews post SM 6 he didn't sound motivated to do it, he gave JC his credit for having a great pen that's pretty much it.

Calico was smack's top gun at that time and was calling for Lux who was looking for a return, that made sense. He did Arsonal the favor giving him a good retirement battle, also the fact they have a lot of history so that angle caused some intrigue. Hitman Holla makes no sense at this point in time whatsoever.

I gave you my reasons why Lux and Hitman would make sense. Why in your opinion don't it make sense? And btw the URL wanted DNA to battle Lux at SM 2 not Cal, Cal was gonna battle John John. Lux turned down DNA so they went to plan B which was Cal.
 
Maywood;c-9994237 said:
gifted;c-9993956 said:
Let's stop the BS already. JC name ain't top billing yet. Can't even imagine Lux vs JC as a main card name.

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Lol.. I give up Cats just saying Anything now

You think JC's name is in the same category as Hollow/Roc/Surf/Calicoe, etc...?
 
As a Lux fan I personally just want to see Lux against someone he wants to kill. He wanted to kill Cal and Hollow so we got a Lux with lots of energy. I didn't think the mook part 2 or Ars battle made sense for Lux, plus he was too cool with them outside of battle rap. If Lux wants to kill JC then I want to see the battle. If Lux wants to kill Hitman then I want to see the battle. Just my opinion
 
CoolJoe;c-9994451 said:
Maywood;c-9994237 said:
gifted;c-9993956 said:
Let's stop the BS already. JC name ain't top billing yet. Can't even imagine Lux vs JC as a main card name.

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Lol.. I give up Cats just saying Anything now

You think JC's name is in the same category as Hollow/Roc/Surf/Calicoe, etc...?

I Put bread on that boy anytime anywhere against anybody...Period

To answer your ? At This present time... YES

Sometimes U gotta ask these questions a different way, Like who's the best in the Midwest Right Now ?
 
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CoolJoe;c-9994451 said:
Maywood;c-9994237 said:
gifted;c-9993956 said:
Let's stop the BS already. JC name ain't top billing yet. Can't even imagine Lux vs JC as a main card name.

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Lol.. I give up Cats just saying Anything now

You think JC's name is in the same category as Hollow/Roc/Surf/Calicoe, etc...?

When I tell U I've put bread on this Boy skill set numerous times mannnn

But to answer your ? All the cats u listed above I'm fans of, took me awhile to Finally give TayRoc his just due...But I'm taking the kid In all 4 of those matchups

 
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Trillaaaaaa;c-9993770 said:
Maywood;c-9990750 said:
gifted;c-9988059 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-9987123 said:
gifted;c-9986955 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-9986508 said:
gifted;c-9986391 said:
JC is nice with the pen but still a whole tier below Lux. Shit is plain disrespectful.

Why? JC s been on an incredible run lately....damn near 3 0 against the best pens in battle rap rn ( TreZ, Chess, Nitty) plus he shit just been fire....LuX on the other hand been catching L's and debatables since Calicoe....

Again Trez Chess Nitty are all a tier or two below. Let's see how JC do against a Hollow, Clips, Ars Calicoe etc. I remember him losing to Clips and Ars I think.

the bolded is based on name recognition to mo not actual bars but u also have to think JC finally figured it out so he aint the same as he was then

Like I said I like JC and respect his pen game (top 5) but y'all way too quick to be saying he better than Lux. I can't respect that. He's got ill written, clear enunciated bars and refined his performance. But he ain't believable with the gun bars. Sorry and that is a factor for me. He got the Ryda syndrome. QP sons got the same issue.

The shit some Of yall say to support your arguments. So Basically U basing this shit off the cat looks, Like they don't look the part to say a Gun Line, Man Please correct me If I'm wrong...This Is Laughable at Best

Nigga look like a bitch

Can't take u serious ,not w/this in ya Avi

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5th Letter;c-9994366 said:
I gave you my reasons why Lux and Hitman would make sense. Why in your opinion don't it make sense? And btw the URL wanted DNA to battle Lux at SM 2 not Cal, Cal was gonna battle John John. Lux turned down DNA so they went to plan B which was Cal.

For one, their styles are like the polar opposite of each other and i don't think the energy would mix right. When two battle rappers compete they are making a product together. There are plenty other names out there I could think of that I'd rather see paired with Lux. His penmanship is going to be more accentuated battling a JC instead of Hitman.

Secondly you should know how Lux thinks when it comes to who he will battle. It has to serve a purpose in his legacy or spark the competitive desire to be the best. Hitman Holla is not at the top of the food chain right now. Yes, he has a name from the work he put in previously, but in 2017 he's just another battle rapper. Now.... if he goes on mean killing spree and starting to look undisputed then you can revisit this conversation. But for now JC got that look.
 
Sage Wonder;c-9995481 said:
5th Letter;c-9994366 said:
I gave you my reasons why Lux and Hitman would make sense. Why in your opinion don't it make sense? And btw the URL wanted DNA to battle Lux at SM 2 not Cal, Cal was gonna battle John John. Lux turned down DNA so they went to plan B which was Cal.

For one, their styles are like the polar opposite of each other and i don't think the energy would mix right. When two battle rappers compete they are making a product together. There are plenty other names out there I could think of that I'd rather see paired with Lux. His penmanship is going to be more accentuated battling a JC instead of Hitman.

Secondly you should know how Lux thinks when it comes to who he will battle. It has to serve a purpose in his legacy or spark the competitive desire to be the best. Hitman Holla is not at the top of the food chain right now. Yes, he has a name from the work he put in previously, but in 2017 he's just another battle rapper. Now.... if he goes on mean killing spree and starting to look undisputed then you can revisit this conversation. But for now JC got that look.

But Lux battled Calicoe and Arsonal and neither of them are known for having great pens. Hitman Holla is "not on top of the food chain", but JC is? JC ain't been on no damn killing spree, he beat Trez then lost to Bigg K then he beat Chess and had a debatable with Nitty. Hitman has a greater body of work much more memorable moments and he's actually bodied top tiers word to Ars, O Red and Shine. Name one top tier that JC decisively beat? Hitman put in work and would deserve the look more than JC. The matchup only "doesn't make sense" because Hitman or Lux hasn't requested to battle each other. All JC did was call out Lux and that alone in y'all eyes make the battle make sense? A nigga that just became top tier last week makes more sense than one of the biggest stars in battle rap who's put in work and has done more for the culture than JC?
 
5th Letter;c-9995505 said:
Sage Wonder;c-9995481 said:
5th Letter;c-9994366 said:
I gave you my reasons why Lux and Hitman would make sense. Why in your opinion don't it make sense? And btw the URL wanted DNA to battle Lux at SM 2 not Cal, Cal was gonna battle John John. Lux turned down DNA so they went to plan B which was Cal.

For one, their styles are like the polar opposite of each other and i don't think the energy would mix right. When two battle rappers compete they are making a product together. There are plenty other names out there I could think of that I'd rather see paired with Lux. His penmanship is going to be more accentuated battling a JC instead of Hitman.

Secondly you should know how Lux thinks when it comes to who he will battle. It has to serve a purpose in his legacy or spark the competitive desire to be the best. Hitman Holla is not at the top of the food chain right now. Yes, he has a name from the work he put in previously, but in 2017 he's just another battle rapper. Now.... if he goes on mean killing spree and starting to look undisputed then you can revisit this conversation. But for now JC got that look.

But Lux battled Calicoe and Arsonal and neither of them are known for having great pens. Hitman Holla is "not on top of the food chain", but JC is? JC ain't been on no damn killing spree, he beat Trez then lost to Bigg K then he beat Chess and had a debatable with Nitty. Hitman has a greater body of work much more memorable moments and he's actually bodied top tiers word to Ars, O Red and Shine. Name one top tier that JC decisively beat? Hitman put in work and would deserve the look more than JC. The matchup only "doesn't make sense" because Hitman or Lux hasn't requested to battle each other. All JC did was call out Lux and that alone in y'all eyes make the battle make sense? A nigga that just became top tier last week makes more sense than one of the biggest stars in battle rap who's put in work and has done more for the culture than JC?

You are pulling for names and I'm pulling for skill. Say no more.
 
Sage Wonder;c-9995481 said:
5th Letter;c-9994366 said:
I gave you my reasons why Lux and Hitman would make sense. Why in your opinion don't it make sense? And btw the URL wanted DNA to battle Lux at SM 2 not Cal, Cal was gonna battle John John. Lux turned down DNA so they went to plan B which was Cal.

For one, their styles are like the polar opposite of each other and i don't think the energy would mix right. When two battle rappers compete they are making a product together. There are plenty other names out there I could think of that I'd rather see paired with Lux. His penmanship is going to be more accentuated battling a JC instead of Hitman.

Secondly you should know how Lux thinks when it comes to who he will battle. It has to serve a purpose in his legacy or spark the competitive desire to be the best. Hitman Holla is not at the top of the food chain right now. Yes, he has a name from the work he put in previously, but in 2017 he's just another battle rapper. Now.... if he goes on mean killing spree and starting to look undisputed then you can revisit this conversation. But for now JC got that look.

My nigga how u know all this bout how Lux does his business...it's simple as this...if URL had a current rankings list....JC d be ranked no 1 and he called out Lux....if y'all feel J C aint ready Lux needs to put him in his place that's it
 
5th Letter;c-9997401 said:
If Bigg K made JC feel small figuratively speaking and sonned him like a father chastising his son then imagine what Lux would do to him?

They aint tryna hear u bro!!!! He got beaten pretty clear imo
 
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5th Letter;c-9997401 said:
If Bigg K made JC feel small figuratively speaking and sonned him like a father chastising his son then imagine what Lux would do to him?

Micmacmar3of3m;c-9998397 said:
5th Letter;c-9997401 said:
If Bigg K made JC feel small figuratively speaking and sonned him like a father chastising his son then imagine what Lux would do to him?

They aint tryna hear u bro!!!! He got beaten pretty clear imo

lets say he lost so what? Lux been on a losing or debatable streak for a while now
 
Elzo69Renaissance;c-9998411 said:
5th Letter;c-9997401 said:
If Bigg K made JC feel small figuratively speaking and sonned him like a father chastising his son then imagine what Lux would do to him?

Micmacmar3of3m;c-9998397 said:
5th Letter;c-9997401 said:
If Bigg K made JC feel small figuratively speaking and sonned him like a father chastising his son then imagine what Lux would do to him?

They aint tryna hear u bro!!!! He got beaten pretty clear imo

lets say he lost so what? Lux been on a losing or debatable streak for a while now

Besides Mook who else did he lose to?
 
5th Letter;c-9999098 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-9998411 said:
5th Letter;c-9997401 said:
If Bigg K made JC feel small figuratively speaking and sonned him like a father chastising his son then imagine what Lux would do to him?

Micmacmar3of3m;c-9998397 said:
5th Letter;c-9997401 said:
If Bigg K made JC feel small figuratively speaking and sonned him like a father chastising his son then imagine what Lux would do to him?

They aint tryna hear u bro!!!! He got beaten pretty clear imo

lets say he lost so what? Lux been on a losing or debatable streak for a while now

Besides Mook who else did he lose to?

Arsonal, Hollow, Clips are L's or debatables...
 

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