This era is the most "real" era ever.

[darkrain]

I hate nowadays because too many untalented rappers and doing what everybody else r doing, all of them sound same. Always use the same popular producer, always use the same popular guest appearances on their albums, etc.

Today have no creative, no passion, no stories, no soul, etc. I really don't care about rap anymore and I don't buy it anymore but I always bought old skool rap cds for my collection.

Hip-Hop was dead when No Limit and Cash Money came in.

 

[rusty shackleford]

Dead ass serious. Im tired of people trying to diss todays artists, knowing damn well you cant heard unless you are who you say you are. Todays artist HAS to have a hunded goons, because that is todays atmosphere. There is a reason why there is the hip hop police. There is so much dirty money floating around hip hop today that is undeniable. Every dope crew has a rap group it seems. You cannot tell me that is not true. There always seems to be a vocal piece for some crew.

all this would mean somethin' if gangster rap hadn't died in the last decade..

 

[Ounceman]

im not too sure about this. i dont see kid cudi, the new boyz, young berg, or wale coming anything remotely close to being street affiliated

 

[jrod44]

seriously lets name a few that your assessment does not apply to Rick Ross, Plies, Drake, Lil Wayne, Soulja Boy, etc. Fakes pay out soime cash get co signed and you non street Kats eat it up the shit is disgusting...

I think your too much into conspiracy theories. My dealings with this industry, albeit, brief and not very fruitful showed me alot. What my experience was that if you werent "known" through some form or fashion you were just wasting your money for studio time.. I remember seeing unknowns getting laughed out the studio, or just get showered with disrespect. I for a fact know that Ross and Plies were underground artists in their neighborhoods first, not that I know them but their mixtapes and songs were circulating before they made it big. So in knowing that, I would assume that they would have to be accepted locally before they went national. Lil Wayne been around real gangsters since he was a jit, how does that disqualify him for being real? Soulja Boy was what 16,17 when he blew, off his hustlin off the internet, and then he started to get picked apart, so he surrounded himself with real people. So he is a sucker for that? Drake,well he is what he is, but even he cant do it without the push of some street folks, and I believe he was well known in Toronto first(dont quote me on that one though), it wasnt until he achieved more fame and the people he was surrounded by that they questioned his realness, despite the fact that he wasnt really trying to come off gangster.

It is still my opinion that no matter what region you come from, you have to make it locally first, and then come up. I am not saying every single person out there is as real as it comes, but common sense the real fakes would have been weeded out long before we ever heard of them. And then the next question a listener has to ask himself is what the fuck does a rapper have to do? and why does he have to do it. Why are we so critical of these guys? What is it that makes you think they are ingenuine? To me its the non street people that are so up in arms. I remember only people on the streets used to listen to Wayne, Ross and Plies mixtapes around here, especially Wayne.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

I think your too much into conspiracy theories. My dealings with this industry, albeit, brief and not very fruitful showed me alot. What my experience was that if you werent "known" through some form or fashion you were just wasting your money for studio time.. I remember seeing unknowns getting laughed out the studio, or just get showered with disrespect. I for a fact know that Ross and Plies were underground artists in their neighborhoods first, not that I know them but their mixtapes and songs were circulating before they made it big. So in knowing that, I would assume that they would have to be accepted locally before they went national. Lil Wayne been around real gangsters since he was a jit, how does that disqualify him for being real? Soulja Boy was what 16,17 when he blew, off his hustlin off the internet, and then he started to get picked apart, so he surrounded himself with real people. So he is a sucker for that? Drake,well he is what he is, but even he cant do it without the push of some street folks, and I believe he was well known in Toronto first(dont quote me on that one though), it wasnt until he achieved more fame and the people he was surrounded by that they questioned his realness, despite the fact that he wasnt really trying to come off gangster.

It is still my opinion that no matter what region you come from, you have to make it locally first, and then come up. I am not saying every single person out there is as real as it comes, but common sense the real fakes would have been weeded out long before we ever heard of them. And then the next question a listener has to ask himself is what the fuck does a rapper have to do? and why does he have to do it. Why are we so critical of these guys? What is it that makes you think they are ingenuine? To me its the non street people that are so up in arms. I remember only people on the streets used to listen to Wayne, Ross and Plies mixtapes around here, especially Wayne.

Truthfully after that long heartfelt rant trying to convince me on why a buch of fake kats should be considered real I grasp that going back and forth with you will be fruitless and the facts are already out there about all the above named rappers and many more. That being said I hope they continue to entertain you but I cannot fuck with them...

 

[Brooklyn Boy]

yo jrod just STFU, u made this thread cuz of the other thread where niggas is debating about niggas rappin wat they been thru or did in life b4 rap n niggas that rap bout shit they did, etc n its not nothin but a lie..

 

[Mr. AJ]

Man, you aint got enough life experience in Hip Hop to make such a claim

 

[jrod44]

yo jrod just STFU, u made this thread cuz of the other thread where niggas is debating about niggas rappin wat they been thru or did in life b4 rap n niggas that rap bout shit they did, etc n its not nothin but a lie..

I actually made this thread so people can see what I believe to be the truth. Lets say some boy from Brooklyn wants to rap, if that boy from Brooklyn aint certified somewhere, somehow then that boy aint going no where. First thing people gonna ask is who he with and what he about. No more no less. I aint trying to say you should believe everything you hear from a rapper you think is wack. Just that I think that in todays rap, you gotta be close to what you rap about or you wouldnt even be here.

 

[jrod44]

Man, you aint got enough life experience in Hip Hop to make such a claim

Like how, in the industry or just in life period? In the industry, nope but in life, yes. Not more than anyone else, but we all got our stories.

 

[mattee c]

@t/s - I agree with some of what you're sayin, but not all. I definately don't think all rappers comin out now are always what they say they are. I do think nowadays it's harder to fabricate your past than it used to be. For example, if you put out a record lying about all dirt you've done and the time you served, a simple internet background check can prove/disprove your criminal past. And something I've noticed over the years is that if a rapper can get away with a lie about their past for several years without being called out, it almost becomes fact. Like if some guy came on this board and could prove he went to high school with, let's say Snoop, and started saying Snoop was never a Crip and never sold drugs, etc., everybody'd probablly start callin him a hater who was just jealous of Snoop's success. I think when people buy into a certain image of a rapper, they get embarrassed when they find out that that person isn't who they say they are. And I'm not callin Snoop fake, I was just usin him as an example.

 

[Brooklyn Boy]

I actually made this thread so people can see what I believe to be the truth. Lets say some boy from Brooklyn wants to rap, if that boy from Brooklyn aint certified somewhere, somehow then that boy aint going no where. First thing people gonna ask is who he with and what he about. No more no less. I aint trying to say you should believe everything you hear from a rapper you think is wack. Just that I think that in todays rap, you gotta be close to what you rap about or you wouldnt even be here.

if dat nigga from brooklyn was rappin, then he should rap about what he has experiences in.. n not lie n rap bout shit he has no experience in.

 

[a.tone]

in some respects i agree... These dudes gotta pay for studio time someway and it aint cheap, neither are mictape hosts. The money alot of time comes from a dopeboi who wanted to be a music mogul, thats pretty real.

What u fail to miss however is the nigga wit the money aint the nigga rappin, its a upcoming rapper from their hood, now whether he is gangsta or not, he will get pressure from his label to make that street shit. Nowadays whether you signed to a minor or a major its all the same bullshit

 

[freshb651]

we got gay people that rap

we got cops that rap

we got snitches that rap

we got old people that rap

we got a wack ass canadian rich boy that rap

i dont like this era at all

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real conversation for that ass

 

[Yung_Souf_Money]

the industry determines wheither to make the artist or break the artist,the streets just give them the edge to push the artist harder like they did 50 cent. eminem got the push cause he's the great white hype of hiphop theres a difference.it's all about strategy and logic when it comes to who gonna blow up and who will be left in the dust.

this song right here sums it all up...listen and you may learn something

[video=youtube;sb5P42lsPyE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb5P42lsPyE[/video]

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

the ignorant premise and homotional hurt feelings this thread was built off of make me definitely want to bring it back to the table for discussion...

 

[smokelahoma]

this thread is bullshit. when you have rappers like Rick Ross (a cop), Lil Wayne (fake gangmember), Plies and Soulja Boy (pussies actin hard) runnin the game, that should tell u that this era is the fakest & gayest era ever.

 

[Real Lady]

This era is the hoodrich era, where most people don't believe ppl are from the hood if they were getting any type of money before rap. So most of the fans think everyone is a fake or fraud.

 

[Real Lady]

I think your too much into conspiracy theories. My dealings with this industry, albeit, brief and not very fruitful showed me alot. What my experience was that if you werent "known" through some form or fashion you were just wasting your money for studio time.. I remember seeing unknowns getting laughed out the studio, or just get showered with disrespect. I for a fact know that Ross and Plies were underground artists in their neighborhoods first, not that I know them but their mixtapes and songs were circulating before they made it big. So in knowing that, I would assume that they would have to be accepted locally before they went national. Lil Wayne been around real gangsters since he was a jit, how does that disqualify him for being real? Soulja Boy was what 16,17 when he blew, off his hustlin off the internet, and then he started to get picked apart, so he surrounded himself with real people. So he is a sucker for that? Drake,well he is what he is, but even he cant do it without the push of some street folks, and I believe he was well known in Toronto first(dont quote me on that one though), it wasnt until he achieved more fame and the people he was surrounded by that they questioned his realness, despite the fact that he wasnt really trying to come off gangster.

It is still my opinion that no matter what region you come from, you have to make it locally first, and then come up. I am not saying every single person out there is as real as it comes, but common sense the real fakes would have been weeded out long before we ever heard of them. And then the next question a listener has to ask himself is what the fuck does a rapper have to do? and why does he have to do it. Why are we so critical of these guys? What is it that makes you think they are ingenuine? To me its the non street people that are so up in arms. I remember only people on the streets used to listen to Wayne, Ross and Plies mixtapes around here, especially Wayne.

exactly. Its just that most of them think, everybody was unknown until he/she becomes a artist. There are many real people who do not get record deals, but as soon as someone get a record deal most people will start calling them a fake.

 

[Real Lady]

seriously lets name a few that your assessment does not apply to Rick Ross, Plies, Drake, Lil Wayne, Soulja Boy, etc. Fakes pay out soime cash get co signed and you non street Kats eat it up the shit is disgusting...

truth be told just because lil wayne been rich since a teen and rick was a co, and plies went to college don't mean they are fake thugs/gangbanga's and etc. That's what people have to learn. I don't know where some peeps are from, but it's like their mentality of being REAL HOOD, is being a underachiever anyone who has made any achievement before rap is called fake these days.

gangsters wear suits and hold jobs. The only thing I got wrong with rick ross case is he denied it. I know gangsters who become co's. It's was the fact that he lied {for me} not the fact that he had a legit job before rap.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

truth be told just because lil wayne been rich since a teen and rick was a co, and plies went to college don't mean they are fake thugs/gangbanga's and etc. That's what people have to learn. I don't know where some peeps are from, but it's like their mentality of being REAL HOOD, is being a underachiever anyone who has made any achievement before rap is called fake these days.

gangsters wear suits and hold jobs. The only thing I got wrong with rick ross case is he denied it. I know gangsters who become co's. It's was the fact that he lied {for me} not the fact that he had a legit job before rap.

Child I think you have a misconception on what real is. Real means not faking it speaking honestly, it does not always mean gangster thug or dealer. You kiddies got your concepts of reality all skewed and do not recognise that this Faking the funk shit is killing the game. Will Smith is a real Rapper speaking honestly about subjects, Ice Cube is a real Rapper sharing hood tales, Lupe is a real rapper dropping Knowledge etc. You seeing a Pattern here yet? Not saying these rappers do not tell stories to get across a point but they never try to perpetuate and pass off the fake as reality though...