They got him! Gbagbo captured

[tru_m.a.c]

so u already know lol but i mean they both corrupt ( my family is in the upper echelon of society back there. Both those guys I know and met personally) the thing is everyone is corrupt and everyone steals. But as Gbagbo was taking off the top, he was still maintaining a nationalistic discourse and looking to make sure that we were no longer being economically abused by the French amongst other things. Everybody knows that Ouattara will find a way to sell the country away. Trust me. The French have already pledged 400 M Euro "loan" to help us rebuild. 1 A lot of money aint gonna do shit but go into ppl's pockets 2) what did Ouattara have to put up to secure those funds?

This is what I love about Western Hypocrisy. China starts moving into Africa heavy and now everybody is trying to hand out loans and "humanitarian aid." The same countries that colonized and practiced economic warfare on us are "helping us deal withe corrupt governments."

And yeah my family is in the same boat too. Its funny how you can hear news through the media, then ask real ppl going through it and they have an entirely different account of the events.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

This is what I love about Western Hypocrisy. China starts moving into Africa heavy and now everybody is trying to hand out loans and "humanitarian aid." The same countries that colonized and practiced economic warfare on us are "helping us deal withe corrupt governments."

And yeah my family is in the same boat too. Its funny how you can hear news through the media, then ask real ppl going through it and they have an entirely different account of the events.

The media is controlled by the powers that be. I mean look at the pics they post of GBAGBO having him look crazy and shit. But trust that 400 M comes at a cost. First Ouattarra and his cronies gon skim off the top then might try to rebuild with whats left but u dont know what they gave up for that gwap.

 

[janklow]

first of all its strange that both camps have troops, picture ur presidential candidate having troops of his/her own(probably has something to do with the civil war 8 years ago?).

well, that IS the issue: that this electron brought out all that drama again

Secondly it was 54 vs 46 %, this is not significant enough to be considered a win imo, you need to have 60% of the votes, atleast then you have a sound majority.

honestly this is probably going to be a cultural difference for some of us; if it was the US, that wouldn't be an unreasonable margin of victory at all

The French obviously have their own agenda serving the Ouatara camp-

almost certainly true, but i am willing to give them a little credit IF the country simmers down. we'll see

 

[sonofliberty]

To me it is disgusting to not support something that helps black people because white people are involved. Actually I find it sickening. As I have said before, I'm motivated by a love of black people, not a hatred of white people (though I'm as enraged at white supremacy as any of you). The fact is that this action by the French will help a black country get back on track. That's the primary thing black people should be concerned with.

Oh, and if Ouattara had troops all this time why did it take him so long to mount a defense? For months he was cooped up in a hotel being protected by the UN. The troops that he used to fight Gbagbo seem to have been organized in the last couple months.

I see what you are saying but the conflict isn't a black and white issue. It's a whole lot of gray.
The French are out for personal interests. They need to extend their influence in the region, plus Sarkosy is up for re-elections soon.

Ouattara was already declared a winner. Any use of force that early would seem suspect.Why not just give Gbagbo enough rope to hang himself. And Ouattara's forces didn't just come about in those 4 months they were already available. The same troops are suspected of voter intimidation and killings in the northern part of the country. I can't wrap my head around this....A presidential candidate with his own troops..smh.

Since both sides are guilty of foul play I think they should have an interim government until all allegations of fraud and killings have been investigated. That is what the French and UN would have supported IF they were neutral. I mean if there is crystal clear evidence that atrocities were committed by forces loyal to Ouattrara and Gbagbo how in the hell can you say either is capable of being a legitimate president??? What kinda mickey mouse shit is that? And how does the UN say they are there for humanitarian aid yet hundreds of people get massacred in some town they were stationed in days earlier. Yet turn around and assist rebels in attacking the Presidential palace. Their sense of neutrality is all fucked up. That's even more reason to suspect that the French and UN had agendas beyond humanitarian aid.

 

[le roi marquis]

Outtara worked for the IMF and was educated in the Ivy League, so he definitely has the pedigree to be a puppet. These type of circumstances are why it is almost impossible to set Africa off on the right track. The forces that interfere are way to powerful and ingrained within the top echelons of those respective societies. Western media has been incredibly biased and has spread misinformation that has only sought to serve the agendas of those same governments. This has included that Outtara's forces have committed no war crimes which couldn't be further from the truth.

Let's not forget that the Constitutional Council of the Ivory Coast declared Gbagbo the winner after reviewing the results, but because the UN is a piece of shit they undermined the process and fabricated the real results. They have absolutely no authority in the country so the fact that they made such an assertion is laughable at best.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Outtara worked for the IMF and was educated in the Ivy League, so he definitely has the pedigree to be a puppet. These type of circumstances are why it is almost impossible to set Africa off on the right track. The forces that interfere are way to powerful and ingrained within the top echelons of those respective societies. Western media has been incredibly biased and has spread misinformation that has only sought to serve the agendas of those same governments. This has included that Outtara's forces have committed no war crimes which couldn't be further from the truth.

Let's not forget that the Constitutional Council of the Ivory Coast declared Gbagbo the winner after reviewing the results, but because the UN is a piece of shit they undermined the process and fabricated the real results. They have absolutely no authority in the country so the fact that they made such an assertion is laughable at best.

this man speaks the truth. Where u from fam?

 

[le roi marquis]

this man speaks the truth. Where u from fam?

Michigan but my parents are Kenyans.U?

 

[sankara]

Ignorant response. Gbagbo lost a democratic election and didn't want to step down so whatever he get's he deserves. What I'm concerned about here is Gbagbo has been using violence to keep power for a year now. Why now does the international community, especially the French (Ivory Coasts colonial master), want to step in??

They'll get to control the Ivory Coast - which they had lost during Gbagbo's tenure. That includes its cocoa trade + numerous interests

What is often skipped by the international media is that Gbagbo instituted many trade policies that benefited IC rather than France. During President Bedie's tenure, France pretty much directly influenced IC's fiscal, trade and monetary policies. But with Gbagbo this came to an end. Needless to say Gbagbo pretty much signed his resignation letter because France would support any candidate that would be anti-Gbagbo and pro-France.......Hello Ouattara

Outtara has a debt to pay. A blietzkrieg orchestrated by the French in his favour means that France is coming back for its pound of flesh. I foresee a puppet in Ouattara

Co-sizzle to tru.mac. I've personally talked to Ivorians and they all say the same thing. Gbagbo was a bit looney but he had IC's interests at heart. He wanted to wrest IC from France's tight grip. Nationalization if properly done would have added enormous wealth to IC's coffers