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stereotypical church gimmick that is all but gone/turned into some entertaining delusional troll shit>>

and whats the point of bringing up smiling clapping like damn near every babyface of any color (including jamaican kofi) hasnt done it at some point. so u sayin kofi been a coon his entire career. yall still have yet to say how yall would make them or any black wrestlers different.

bruh kofi has never been in a last match of the show elimination chamber. u gotta stop it. please. u on some blu shit.

no way to tell if its viable long term but one could argue it wasnt viable from the jump and its lasted nearly 10 months. but of course you wouldnt know that. if done right it could lead to some real upper midcard shit

and im not denyin kofi teaming with punk or beating jericho, but ur in here actin like he was a world title contender and was near the end of the show for years, shit by your qualifications 80% of the roster has been upper mid card main event. the only time kofi character has been more relevant or put in several segments on tv/ppv is from oct 2009 to jan 2010 if that. this new day shit is a highlight on each of they careers. u can look at how wwe booked past black guys and let it ruin that for u all u want. but at least stop reaching for dumb ass reasons to say that shit.

ill give u sandow main eventing raw, idk if u right i just dont care.

People are acting like New Day is out there on their Cryme Tyme shit.

Creative didn't give them anything other than the original preaching gimmick which they've never even acknowledged on air outside of their entrance video.

Clapping. They've stated they came up with that on their own.

Being extra happy and hammy? They've also stated that they came up with that on their own in hopes they could sabotage their positioning as faces, which they were able to accomplish. They've also made mention of their degrees numerous times while under the New Day gimmick. Dudes really in here saying they're less offended by a fake Jamaican gimmick.

It's not that what you're saying isn't logical. It's that you aren't speaking from a fact based position. You see some niggas laughing and having a good time and assume it's because creative has them cooning.

You have to have the facts of the situation backing you if you're just going to go off ranting & raving.

I'm not saying they're Cryme Tyme (more strawman) I'm saying that they are are out there playing stereotypes, smiling and buck dancing, they're supposed to be an hybrid preaching/church/gospel/motivational team. Them taking it and making it work proves how talented they are similar to Sandow. But that whole clapping and happy shit has been given to black wrestlers in the past. I highly doubt they came up with it on their own and even if that was the case it has to be approved by the old white man first, the WWE is too attention to detail driven to just allow off the cuff shit.

As for Kofi's Jamaican gimmick it wasn't the gimmick that I found "less offensive" it was the fact that Kofi was upper mid card/main eventing which always trumps being in a mid card tag team.

What part of I only deal in facts didn't you understand. Don't say recalling Cryme Tyme is straw man tactics within a sentence of recalling what WWE has done in the past to other black talent. Talk about a hypocrite. The point is fuck the feelings, your preconceived notions and deal in facts.

Fact is that what you saw on TV is absolutely nothing like what creative intended New Day to be. Don't tell me what you highly doubt when: 1) You haven't watched the show in months. 2) It came out of their own mouths 3) We've watched the characters drastically evolve since WM.

If you watch some of their outside interviews and on the road stuff you'd see that their characters aren't too far removed from how they are in their personals. They've been constantly repeating how thankful they are for being able to have their characters reflect some of their own personalities. They specifically spoke about the phone call they had with each other where they came up with their attires. They specifically spoke about the meeting they had with one another where they were trying to come up with something the crowd could latch onto and ended up with the New Day Rocks clap which morphed into New Day Sucks.

So fuck all the "assumptions" flying around. Now if you think what they're doing is cooning then that's something for you to deal with inside yourself. Fact remains these guys got themselves over to the point where cats in other promotions are heiling them as the hottest thing currently going in pro wrestling. Week after week for months now they're getting the biggest pops of the show and have been putting on high quality matches while doing it.

One moment it's, "the black talent is too angry."

Next moment it's, "the black talent is too happy."

Just stfu and enjoy the show for once. R-Truth is and was closer to coon than what New Day is doing.

I'm dealing in nothing but facts bruh. The WWE won't just allow those dudes to do shit off the cuff without approval from the WWE. If they decided to be more serious characters while they used their real life accomplishments and intertwined them in their characters I doubt Vince would even allow it. But he damn sure allowed this cheesy, dancing clapping and smiling shit though, and that's even giving them the benefit of the doubt that they came up with everything outside of the theme song. That's the point you're missing. Why couldn't they be serious ass kicking dudes like the Shield were? They had to buck dance and over exaggerate shit to get it over, because it speaks about their talent to make this bullshit work. I don't give a fuck if the wrestler has a happy gimmick or angry gimmick if it's presented in a stereotypical fashion then it's coonery.

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Why do you think they went all out coon in the first place? They were given a stereotypical gimmick and they ratchet up the fuckery to get it over with their boss who then allowed them to go on air to do their thing. Do you get it now?

 

[5th Letter]

Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

I remember that ish. Kofi botched a move n orton went off calling him stupid or some shit during the match....and that was it for kofi.

Man..i said kofi could be chris benoit...shit the wwe gave jeff hardy the title..and kofi is the same as jeff hardy minus the drug charges..

Exactly, guys like Rey Mysterio and Alberto Del Rio held championships. Kofi got over due to his athleticism and high flying moves similar to Rey. There's

^^ dont forget Sandow was a money in the bank winner at some point too.

But mimicking the Miz>>upper mid card/main eventing according to someone's logic in here.

lol yea kofi got over similar to rey but rey was a draw, how many kofi masks were in the crowd man? stop fuckin reaching uve been done, and now after sayin kofi had a 2 year near main event run ur fuckin burnt, u dont know what the fuck ur even sayin and the other nigga dont even know why he callin niggas coons. no one said bolded, your argument is stupid bruh just face it. we all say dumb ass shit from time to time, your in here grasping at straws, man.

But hey mimicking the Miz was better than not doing anything at all right? Being in a upper mid card position and occasionally main eventing

 

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Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

I remember that ish. Kofi botched a move n orton went off calling him stupid or some shit during the match....and that was it for kofi.

Man..i said kofi could be chris benoit...shit the wwe gave jeff hardy the title..and kofi is the same as jeff hardy minus the drug charges..

Exactly, guys like Rey Mysterio and Alberto Del Rio held championships. Kofi got over due to his athleticism and high flying moves similar to Rey. There's

^^ dont forget Sandow was a money in the bank winner at some point too.

But mimicking the Miz>>upper mid card/main eventing according to someone's logic in here.

lol yea kofi got over similar to rey but rey was a draw, how many kofi masks were in the crowd man? stop fuckin reaching uve been done, and now after sayin kofi had a 2 year near main event run ur fuckin burnt, u dont know what the fuck ur even sayin and the other nigga dont even know why he callin niggas coons. no one said bolded, your argument is stupid bruh just face it. we all say dumb ass shit from time to time, your in here grasping at straws, man.

But hey mimicking the Miz was better than not doing anything at all right? Being in a upper mid card position and occasionally main eventing

and whats the point of bringing up smiling clapping like damn near every babyface of any color (including jamaican kofi) hasnt done it at some point. so u sayin kofi been a coon his entire career. yall still have yet to say how yall would make them or any black wrestlers different.

bruh kofi has never been in a last match of the show elimination chamber. u gotta stop it. please. u on some blu shit.

no way to tell if its viable long term but one could argue it wasnt viable from the jump and its lasted nearly 10 months. but of course you wouldnt know that. if done right it could lead to some real upper midcard shit

and im not denyin kofi teaming with punk or beating jericho, but ur in here actin like he was a world title contender and was near the end of the show for years, shit by your qualifications 80% of the roster has been upper mid card main event. the only time kofi character has been more relevant or put in several segments on tv/ppv is from oct 2009 to jan 2010 if that. this new day shit is a highlight on each of they careers. u can look at how wwe booked past black guys and let it ruin that for u all u want. but at least stop reaching for dumb ass reasons to say that shit.

ill give u sandow main eventing raw, idk if u right i just dont care.

People are acting like New Day is out there on their Cryme Tyme shit.

Creative didn't give them anything other than the original preaching gimmick which they've never even acknowledged on air outside of their entrance video.

Clapping. They've stated they came up with that on their own.

Being extra happy and hammy? They've also stated that they came up with that on their own in hopes they could sabotage their positioning as faces, which they were able to accomplish. They've also made mention of their degrees numerous times while under the New Day gimmick. Dudes really in here saying they're less offended by a fake Jamaican gimmick.

It's not that what you're saying isn't logical. It's that you aren't speaking from a fact based position. You see some niggas laughing and having a good time and assume it's because creative has them cooning.

You have to have the facts of the situation backing you if you're just going to go off ranting & raving.

I.

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Why do you think they went all out coon in the first place? They were given a stereotypical gimmick and they ratchet up the fuckery to get it over with their boss who then allowed them to go on air to do their thing. Do you get it now?

there's nothing for me to get fam, ur the one out of the loop. they tried to avoid typical stereotypical shit, and ended up with a shitty face gimmick, but they worked it and got over their way. it took time but they did it. maybe they didnt wanna be "serious ass kickers" like the shield(what would yall say then, stereotypical hoodlums?). maybe they wanted to be themselves and they doing a great job of showcasing themselves not what yall clown ass militants want them to be. yall see that its an extension of themselves, so what, now they're coons off camera at they crib now too. or just cuz they smile n clap. do u smile and play with your kids? u call that cooning? would u call your mothers pastor a coon ass nigga? with yall's shitty logic every thing a black man does on tv is coonery. niggas who let u know they have degrees, having fun on a wrestling show is called coonery now? shut up.

 

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And the funniest shit about these cornballs crying about them being preachers is that it wasn't even their gimmick at all when they first appeared on TV.

After not gaining any initial traction Vince pitched the preacher idea because Big E was utilizing a preachers voice when he would get on the mic. A voice that came natural to E because HE ACTUALLY WAS A PREACHER for a period of time prior to wrestling. But I'm through debating dudes that choose to debate while being willfully ignorant because you've been directed to the information on multiple occasions now.

 

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The New Day Discussed Their Formation And Their Mortified Reaction To Their Babyface Gimmick

BY NATHAN BIRCH • 08.06.15

“Xavier Woods: After talking about it for a while we kind of approached them with what we wanted to do and rather than being this group that everyone thought it was going to be, just three angry black guys, it’s like, no, it’s three guys who have come up from the same background who just want more from life, more from their jobs, more from their friends, more from everything around them. So we tried to take that mentality and get it across on TV as best we could.

Kofi Kingston: And we did! For about two weeks, we did. [Then] we got taken off. We got on and everyone thought we were going to be like the second coming of the Nation. ‘You guys are the New Nation of Domination.’ “

After having their original group shot down, Xavier, Kofi and Big E spent months pitching new ideas to WWE management. According to Kofi, they even proposed a funny APA-like team called The Problem Solvers, which people liked, but it ultimately didn’t go ahead. Then, one fateful day, Vince McMahon called the trio into his office and informed them he had a new vision for them – he wanted them to be preachers. The rest of the meeting went about as awkwardly as you’d expect.

“Woods: He was, ‘How do you guys see this?’ We were like ‘Well, we don’t want to sing and dance because we feel like for African-American athletes you’re either singing and dancing, or you’re the big strong black guy, or you’re the foreign black guy.’ Those are the three archetypes. We were like, ‘We want to push some sort of message for all kids but more specifically young black kids watching wrestling that you can be whatever kind of character you want. You come with a blank slate and you can be anything, not just these three things. So then when we got to this part about being preachers…”

Kingston: We can’t describe to you the tension. Because you can’t sell it, you know what I’m saying? None of us were going to get up and go ‘This is bull!’ and be all pissed about it. We all were just smiling and nodding and all of us were all thinking the same thing like ‘Oh my god, this man is crazy.’ We walked out of that room and we had no idea. It was the complete opposite of what we wanted to do. You know, he wanted us to be like clapping. When I do go back to church it’s like the white Catholic church, it’s not like Baptist style, so this was like completely out of my comfort zone. But you’re given a task and you do the best with it and I think that we did do pretty well with it.”

So there you are, The New Day were as weirded out by the clapping, dancing original incarnation of the group as we all were. Thankfully, the group managed to strike gold by turning a bad idea on its head. They also credit The New Day’s long, twisted origin story with making the final product better. Xavier, Kofi and Big E were friends before they formed a team, but fighting to make The New Day the team they really wanted it to be for nearly a year brought them closer and created the chemistry you see on screen today. Now that’s a story you can feel positive about.

 

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[5th Letter]

Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

I remember that ish. Kofi botched a move n orton went off calling him stupid or some shit during the match....and that was it for kofi.

Man..i said kofi could be chris benoit...shit the wwe gave jeff hardy the title..and kofi is the same as jeff hardy minus the drug charges..

Exactly, guys like Rey Mysterio and Alberto Del Rio held championships. Kofi got over due to his athleticism and high flying moves similar to Rey. There's

^^ dont forget Sandow was a money in the bank winner at some point too.

But mimicking the Miz>>upper mid card/main eventing according to someone's logic in here.

lol yea kofi got over similar to rey but rey was a draw, how many kofi masks were in the crowd man? stop fuckin reaching uve been done, and now after sayin kofi had a 2 year near main event run ur fuckin burnt, u dont know what the fuck ur even sayin and the other nigga dont even know why he callin niggas coons. no one said bolded, your argument is stupid bruh just face it. we all say dumb ass shit from time to time, your in here grasping at straws, man.

But hey mimicking the Miz was better than not doing anything at all right? Being in a upper mid card position and occasionally main eventing

and whats the point of bringing up smiling clapping like damn near every babyface of any color (including jamaican kofi) hasnt done it at some point. so u sayin kofi been a coon his entire career. yall still have yet to say how yall would make them or any black wrestlers different.

bruh kofi has never been in a last match of the show elimination chamber. u gotta stop it. please. u on some blu shit.

no way to tell if its viable long term but one could argue it wasnt viable from the jump and its lasted nearly 10 months. but of course you wouldnt know that. if done right it could lead to some real upper midcard shit

and im not denyin kofi teaming with punk or beating jericho, but ur in here actin like he was a world title contender and was near the end of the show for years, shit by your qualifications 80% of the roster has been upper mid card main event. the only time kofi character has been more relevant or put in several segments on tv/ppv is from oct 2009 to jan 2010 if that. this new day shit is a highlight on each of they careers. u can look at how wwe booked past black guys and let it ruin that for u all u want. but at least stop reaching for dumb ass reasons to say that shit.

ill give u sandow main eventing raw, idk if u right i just dont care.

People are acting like New Day is out there on their Cryme Tyme shit.

Creative didn't give them anything other than the original preaching gimmick which they've never even acknowledged on air outside of their entrance video.

Clapping. They've stated they came up with that on their own.

Being extra happy and hammy? They've also stated that they came up with that on their own in hopes they could sabotage their positioning as faces, which they were able to accomplish. They've also made mention of their degrees numerous times while under the New Day gimmick. Dudes really in here saying they're less offended by a fake Jamaican gimmick.

It's not that what you're saying isn't logical. It's that you aren't speaking from a fact based position. You see some niggas laughing and having a good time and assume it's because creative has them cooning.

You have to have the facts of the situation backing you if you're just going to go off ranting & raving.

I.

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Why do you think they went all out coon in the first place? They were given a stereotypical gimmick and they ratchet up the fuckery to get it over with their boss who then allowed them to go on air to do their thing. Do you get it now?

there's nothing for me to get fam, ur the one out of the loop. they tried to avoid typical stereotypical shit, and ended up with a shitty face gimmick, but they worked it and got over their way. it took time but they did it. maybe they didnt wanna be "serious ass kickers" like the shield(what would yall say then, stereotypical hoodlums?). maybe they wanted to be themselves and they doing a great job of showcasing themselves not what yall clown ass militants want them to be. yall see that its an extension of themselves, so what, now they're coons off camera at they crib now too. or just cuz they smile n clap. do u smile and play with your kids? u call that cooning? would u call your mothers pastor a coon ass nigga? with yall's shitty logic every thing a black man does on tv is coonery. niggas who let u know they have degrees, having fun on a wrestling show is called coonery now? shut up.

Singles guy in the WWE holds more weight than a tag team so there is a difference in standing.

I've said this beforehand them getting this gimmick over is a testament to their talent. You may enjoy the gimmick and find it entertaining but it doesn't change what it is.

 

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You're coming off like the kid who sleeps in the back of the classroom thinking they'll be able to pass the exam by looking up the cliff notes. They didn't pull the gimmick out of their ass. It was built around what they had already done on their own but wasn't working. Context is important.
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After not going anywhere with the initial version of the gimmick, the trio was brought into Vince’s office where he dropped his big idea for them. He said he’d taken a long time to come up with it but felt that he had it…he wants them to be preachers. Kofi said he’d been to church twice in the past several years and had no idea what to do.

Big E. quickly chimes in that it was partially his fault. He says after he dropped the IC title to Bad News Barrett he was told “We kinda like you but we have nothing for you so you better come up with something quickly.” They were rushing through pre-taped segments and he was working on deliveries and decided to utilize the cadence he used during his brief preaching background. Road Dogg was in the room and told Vince about it, and that’s how he came up with the idea to give them a southern baptist gimmick.

E. said he thought it was awkward because he was doing it out of nowhere and it didn’t make sense, but at least the new gimmick gave him a chance to use the cadence correctly within the confines of his character.

Chris wonders how they came up with their trademark clap. Xavier said he was looking for anything to differentiate them, and thought if he could get the crowd to do a specific clap for them – during heat segments, for instance – Vince and the producers would take notice. The three then joke about how this led to Woods sending them videos of him trying out different clap rhythms, and E. adds that they also sent each other half-naked photos of themselves trying out different wrestling gear.

Xavier says that it was never intended to have words, just be an easy rhythm that they could slap on the mat, and when they tried it out on house shows it worked. The crowd picked up on it and they ran with it. Then one night the crowd added the words to it and created the “New Day sucks” chant, and the guys were excited and ran with it from that point on.

 

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@(ob)Scene

wow duke, wow! Those quotes were by the author and new day their self. At no point, did I ever say their gimmick was not working, or they weren't brain children of trying to achieve success in the wwe, or that they didnt flip what was given to them.. I simply highlighted the talking points to point out to the blind the point @5th letter and others were making.

just wow at this whole thing. I'm good now for real. I shouldn't argue with fools or small minded ass people who are too ignorant to understand the main point.

enjoy your wrestling the way you like, i'm gonna do the same and comment however i want. Careless if you agree or do not agree.

dying laugin' even more like when they first came out, niggas werent' up in here dissing the f out of them for clapping and dancing around....ha ha

the internet i tell ya!

 

[jono]

Yall niggas still arguing about New Day? Let them niggas think what they want. Its working and they are doing far more now than they were previously and they superover and having fun. Lets leave it at that.

 

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@(ob)Scene

wow duke, wow! Those quotes were by the author and new day their self. At no point, did I ever say their gimmick was not working, or they weren't brain children of trying to achieve success in the wwe, or that they didnt flip what was given to them.. I simply highlighted the talking points to point out to the blind the point @5th letter and others were making.

just wow at this whole thing. I'm good now for real. I shouldn't argue with fools or small minded ass people who are too ignorant to understand the main point.

enjoy your wrestling the way you like, i'm gonna do the same and comment however i want. Careless if you agree or do not agree.

dying laugin' even more like when they first came out, niggas werent' up in here dissing the f out of them for clapping and dancing around....ha ha

the internet i tell ya!

Yeah but it was from the same interview. You provided quotes speaking about disliking stereotypes but didn't include the quotes from literally seconds prior in the same exact interview detailing how they ultimately got to that point. Context is important whether you want to acknowledge it or not. No one ever stated WWE doesn't have a history. We're just saying this isn't any where near being egregious enough to warrant a "coon" label. Especially when you consider how they wound up in this position.

And it's not that anyone doesn't understand the "main points," it's that you all keep moving the goal posts within the conversation. Like how one you guys said Kofi's Jamaican gimmick was better when he was LITERALLY doing the exact same clapping and smiling shit that he's doing right now. Y'all are dancing in circles for no reason what so ever. Do you enjoy them or not? If not then go be righteous somewhere and protest it.

 

[5th Letter]

@(ob)Scene

wow duke, wow! Those quotes were by the author and new day their self. At no point, did I ever say their gimmick was not working, or they weren't brain children of trying to achieve success in the wwe, or that they didnt flip what was given to them.. I simply highlighted the talking points to point out to the blind the point @5th letter and others were making.

just wow at this whole thing. I'm good now for real. I shouldn't argue with fools or small minded ass people who are too ignorant to understand the main point.

enjoy your wrestling the way you like, i'm gonna do the same and comment however i want. Careless if you agree or do not agree.

dying laugin' even more like when they first came out, niggas werent' up in here dissing the f out of them for clapping and dancing around....ha ha

the internet i tell ya!

Yeah but it was from the same interview. You provided quotes speaking about disliking stereotypes but didn't include the quotes from literally seconds prior in the same exact interview detailing how they ultimately got to that point. Context is important whether you want to acknowledge it or not. No one ever stated WWE doesn't have a history. We're just saying this isn't any where near being egregious enough to warrant a "coon" label. Especially when you consider how they wound up in this position.

And it's not that anyone doesn't understand the "main points," it's that you all keep moving the goal posts within the conversation. Like how one you guys said Kofi's Jamaican gimmick was better when he was LITERALLY doing the exact same clapping and smiling shit that he's doing right now. Y'all are dancing in circles for no reason what so ever. Do you enjoy them or not? If not then go be righteous somewhere and protest it.

I never said the gimmick was better I said Kofi was in a better position on the card than he is now with New Day. Plus I forgot to mention this but he dropped the Jamaican thing within a year of his debut.

 

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At no point, did I ever say their gimmick was not working, or they weren't brain children of trying to achieve success in the wwe, or that they didnt flip what was given to them..

And never shit about his Jamaican gimmick. Get your facts str8.

 

[KillaCham]

The fact that New Day enjoy what they're doing and have come up with most of it should put this argument to rest.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Just watched that kofi botch for the first time, I've seen worse wtf was Orton so upset about?

 

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Just watched that kofi botch for the first time, I've seen worse wtf was Orton so upset about?

Just orton being an A-Hole for no reason.

 

[Dupac]

naw kofi is doing much better now..

the new day gimmick is golden

 

[5th Letter]

naw kofi is doing much better now..

the new day gimmick is golden

Is this better than what he was doing for the past 3 or 4 years? Yes. But the gimmick is shit, kudos for them making it work.

 

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naw kofi is doing much better now..

the new day gimmick is golden

I personally like him better in singles comp. cause of course he gets to show off more of his arsenal, but him n Big E do work well together as a team. The whole thing works.

Even that damn trumpet!!! Lord that shit is goat..lol

 

[Dupac]

naw kofi is doing much better now..

the new day gimmick is golden

Is this better than what he was doing for the past 3 or 4 years? Yes. But the gimmick is shit, kudos for them making it work.

i saw the potential in the gimmick from the jump....

i didn't think it would go this over, cuz you're right it does lean towards the cooning side....but they turned it into a smark gimmick which is quite frankly genius....the whole shit is satirical, almost like a boondocks, or chappelle show, type of humor to it....white people ain't really laughing for the same reason we laughing....these niggaz killing it right now, and having fun with it....

it ain't like some coon shit made in the lab on some stereotypical shit and stick to the script type of gimmick....it might have been created that way, but they owned it until it got bigger than them...it's still early... but they killing this shit bruh....

think about how stupid the undertakers gimmick is...but that dude owned it, and made that shit one of the top characters of all time....same thing with all the greats....their gimmick's persay were always kinda cartoony and campy at concept, but it's up to the performer to make it work....

difference between new day, and say brodas clay....this nigga just tied his best to work with what they gave him....you want me to dance and shit.....fuck it whatever...i'll do it.....

dude ain't take no initiative, ain't try to expand or push it harder, he just did what he did and bounced....

these 3 dudes took a gimmick, saw it for how corny it was and they pushed it all the way over the top......and it worked....

these 3 dudes doing something imo great...hopefully it hasn't peaked...cuz the shit is gold right now