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[sobek]

People are acting like New Day is out there on their Cryme Tyme shit.

Creative didn't give them anything other than the original preaching gimmick which they've never even acknowledged on air outside of their entrance video.

Clapping. They've stated they came up with that on their own.

Being extra happy and hammy? They've also stated that they came up with that on their own in hopes they could sabotage their positioning as faces, which they were able to accomplish. They've also made mention of their degrees numerous times while under the New Day gimmick. Dudes really in here saying they're less offended by a fake Jamaican gimmick.

It's not that what you're saying isn't logical. It's that you aren't speaking from a fact based position. You see some niggas laughing and having a good time and assume it's because creative has them cooning.

You have to have the facts of the situation backing you if you're just going to go off ranting & raving.

It's the history of the company that makes people feel that way. WWE/Wrestling has been historically racist so even when some people see anything that can be taken even remotely stereotypical, they are going to reject it automatically even though there might be a legitimate entertainment value to it. I actually hated Cryme Tyme at the beginning and ending up being a fan of them dudes because of their ability to entertain.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

bruh said NOW kofi stuck where he at, where u been since 2009, this the most over kofi been since lmao

Upper mid card/main eventing>>coon gimmick

oh yea, jamaican kofi had such a long storied upper mid card main event run, oh wait.. stop it bruh.

Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

ur acting like it was a guarantee he would shoot to the main event had it not been for the botch, sure its possible but as it stands, kofi had a 2 month run feuding with orton and showed a lil personality by jumping on a car. not to mention it was 6 years ago. and u cant name shit of note kofi has done since that is anything close to upper mid card/main event. im disappointed that didnt go any further of course but what he's got goin now stands out nearly as much

ur comparing that to these three cats gettin it out the mud starting as extra corny babyfaces but lobbying to vince and making it theirs and over a period of 6+ months develop their characters immensely to the point they are the delusional heels that u still like. not to mention stealing the show and getting valuable mic time and occasionally MAIN EVENTING. every week in comparison to all the valuable promos they dropped in they past gimmick.....

ill stop the strawman nonsense(making u niggas arguments look as stupid as they seem) when u stop reaching for shit to complain about.

 

[ghost!]

And its cool or whatever doing some shit when he played football like sobek said..its the history wwe has w its black wrestlers.

Brian pillman

Stone cold

Brock

Goldberg....played football too, some played professionally. Never did any dancing shit..not to say titus o'neal is a coon for it. Just saying..

 

[5th Letter]

People are acting like New Day is out there on their Cryme Tyme shit.

Creative didn't give them anything other than the original preaching gimmick which they've never even acknowledged on air outside of their entrance video.

Clapping. They've stated they came up with that on their own.

Being extra happy and hammy? They've also stated that they came up with that on their own in hopes they could sabotage their positioning as faces, which they were able to accomplish. They've also made mention of their degrees numerous times while under the New Day gimmick. Dudes really in here saying they're less offended by a fake Jamaican gimmick.

It's not that what you're saying isn't logical. It's that you aren't speaking from a fact based position. You see some niggas laughing and having a good time and assume it's because creative has them cooning.

You have to have the facts of the situation backing you if you're just going to go off ranting & raving.

I'm not saying they're Cryme Tyme (more strawman) I'm saying that they are are out there playing stereotypes, smiling and buck dancing, they're supposed to be an hybrid preaching/church/gospel/motivational team. Them taking it and making it work proves how talented they are similar to Sandow. But that whole clapping and happy shit has been given to black wrestlers in the past. I highly doubt they came up with it on their own and even if that was the case it has to be approved by the old white man first, the WWE is too attention to detail driven to just allow off the cuff shit.

As for Kofi's Jamaican gimmick it wasn't the gimmick that I found "less offensive" it was the fact that Kofi was upper mid card/main eventing which always trumps being in a mid card tag team.

 

[ghost!]

Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

I remember that ish. Kofi botched a move n orton went off calling him stupid or some shit during the match....and that was it for kofi.

Man..i said kofi could be chris benoit...shit the wwe gave jeff hardy the title..and kofi is the same as jeff hardy minus the drug charges..

 

[5th Letter]

bruh said NOW kofi stuck where he at, where u been since 2009, this the most over kofi been since lmao

Upper mid card/main eventing>>coon gimmick

oh yea, jamaican kofi had such a long storied upper mid card main event run, oh wait.. stop it bruh.

Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

ur acting like it was a guarantee he would shoot to the main event had it not been for the botch, sure its possible but as it stands, kofi had a 2 month run feuding with orton and showed a lil personality by jumping on a car. not to mention it was 6 years ago. and u cant name shit of note kofi has done since that is anything close to upper mid card/main event. im disappointed that didnt go any further of course but what he's got goin now stands out nearly as much

ur comparing that to these three cats gettin it out the mud starting as extra corny babyfaces but lobbying to vince and making it theirs and over a period of 6+ months develop their characters immensely to the point they are the delusional heels that u still like. not to mention stealing the show and getting valuable mic time and occasionally MAIN EVENTING. every week in comparison to all the valuable promos they dropped in they past gimmick.....

ill stop the strawman nonsense(making u niggas arguments look as stupid as they seem) when u stop reaching for shit to complain about.

Bruh you brought up Kofi's past first. And no it wasnt just a two month thing. Kofi had a two year run in the upper mid card/main event before his push hot derailed because Orton was being a bitch. And I'm not saying it's guaranteed that Kofi would be in the main event. But that beats this New Day shit, and also while this at least gives him TV time, the guy deserves much better than this. And lol at main eventing Raw being progress. Mizdow main evented a Raw or two last year and look where he's at now. I'm not diminishing main eventing Raw but you cannot seriously use that as a reason why this is not a coon gimmick.

 

[ghost!]

^^ dont forget Sandow was a money in the bank winner at some point too.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

bruh said NOW kofi stuck where he at, where u been since 2009, this the most over kofi been since lmao

Upper mid card/main eventing>>coon gimmick

oh yea, jamaican kofi had such a long storied upper mid card main event run, oh wait.. stop it bruh.

Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

ur acting like it was a guarantee he would shoot to the main event had it not been for the botch, sure its possible but as it stands, kofi had a 2 month run feuding with orton and showed a lil personality by jumping on a car. not to mention it was 6 years ago. and u cant name shit of note kofi has done since that is anything close to upper mid card/main event. im disappointed that didnt go any further of course but what he's got goin now stands out nearly as much

ur comparing that to these three cats gettin it out the mud starting as extra corny babyfaces but lobbying to vince and making it theirs and over a period of 6+ months develop their characters immensely to the point they are the delusional heels that u still like. not to mention stealing the show and getting valuable mic time and occasionally MAIN EVENTING. every week in comparison to all the valuable promos they dropped in they past gimmick.....

ill stop the strawman nonsense(making u niggas arguments look as stupid as they seem) when u stop reaching for shit to complain about.

Bruh you brought up Kofi's past first. And no it wasnt just a two month thing. Kofi had a two year run in the upper mid card/main event before his push hot derailed because Orton was being a bitch. And I'm not saying it's guaranteed that Kofi would be in the main event. But that beats this New Day shit, and also while this at least gives him TV time, the guy deserves much better than this. And lol at main eventing Raw being progress. Mizdow main evented a Raw or two last year and look where he's at now. I'm not diminishing main eventing Raw but you cannot seriously use that as a reason why this is not a coon gimmick.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you niggas are as delusional as the new day gimmick! ur seriously tryna tell us that them smiling and clapping is why they are coons. what the fuck has kofi been doing for 9 years bruh? smiling happy go lucky babyface

mizdow never main evented raw for one thing, 2, what 2 year run lmao. main eventing ecw? u keep bringing up kofi being upper mid card main event when he NEVER was besides feuding with orton and what did he main event besides raw, ill fuckin wait. kofi's "main event run" lasted from october 09 to damn january 2010. besides that he's been forgettable ic and us champion time after time stop fuckin lyin bruh. u say he deserves much better. HE'S DOING GREAT WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH U NIGGAS!

main eventing raw/being in multiple key segments>>not being booked. and lmao and this clown sayin kofi could be chris benoit. mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. i thought this was the one subforum with out idiots.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

and niggas have told yall to check the talk is jericho 1000 times, its a damn shoot interview, but yall still in here hollering "creative did this to them" smh

 

[(ob)Scene]

People are acting like New Day is out there on their Cryme Tyme shit.

Creative didn't give them anything other than the original preaching gimmick which they've never even acknowledged on air outside of their entrance video.

Clapping. They've stated they came up with that on their own.

Being extra happy and hammy? They've also stated that they came up with that on their own in hopes they could sabotage their positioning as faces, which they were able to accomplish. They've also made mention of their degrees numerous times while under the New Day gimmick. Dudes really in here saying they're less offended by a fake Jamaican gimmick.

It's not that what you're saying isn't logical. It's that you aren't speaking from a fact based position. You see some niggas laughing and having a good time and assume it's because creative has them cooning.

You have to have the facts of the situation backing you if you're just going to go off ranting & raving.

I'm not saying they're Cryme Tyme (more strawman) I'm saying that they are are out there playing stereotypes, smiling and buck dancing, they're supposed to be an hybrid preaching/church/gospel/motivational team. Them taking it and making it work proves how talented they are similar to Sandow. But that whole clapping and happy shit has been given to black wrestlers in the past. I highly doubt they came up with it on their own and even if that was the case it has to be approved by the old white man first, the WWE is too attention to detail driven to just allow off the cuff shit.

As for Kofi's Jamaican gimmick it wasn't the gimmick that I found "less offensive" it was the fact that Kofi was upper mid card/main eventing which always trumps being in a mid card tag team.

What part of I only deal in facts didn't you understand. Don't say recalling Cryme Tyme is straw man tactics within a sentence of recalling what WWE has done in the past to other black talent. Talk about a hypocrite. The point is fuck the feelings, your preconceived notions and deal in facts.

Fact is that what you saw on TV is absolutely nothing like what creative intended New Day to be. Don't tell me what you highly doubt when: 1) You haven't watched the show in months. 2) It came out of their own mouths 3) We've watched the characters drastically evolve since WM.

If you watch some of their outside interviews and on the road stuff you'd see that their characters aren't too far removed from how they are in their personals. They've been constantly repeating how thankful they are for being able to have their characters reflect some of their own personalities. They specifically spoke about the phone call they had with each other where they came up with their attires. They specifically spoke about the meeting they had with one another where they were trying to come up with something the crowd could latch onto and ended up with the New Day Rocks clap which morphed into New Day Sucks.

So fuck all the "assumptions" flying around. Now if you think what they're doing is cooning then that's something for you to deal with inside yourself. Fact remains these guys got themselves over to the point where cats in other promotions are heiling them as the hottest thing currently going in pro wrestling. Week after week for months now they're getting the biggest pops of the show and have been putting on high quality matches while doing it.

One moment it's, "the black talent is too angry."

Next moment it's, "the black talent is too happy."

Just stfu and enjoy the show for once. R-Truth is and was closer to coon than what New Day is doing.

 

[5th Letter]

^^ dont forget Sandow was a money in the bank winner at some point too.

But mimicking the Miz>>upper mid card/main eventing according to someone's logic in here.

 

[Dupac]

Damn, y'all really beefed over this

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

I remember that ish. Kofi botched a move n orton went off calling him stupid or some shit during the match....and that was it for kofi.

Man..i said kofi could be chris benoit...shit the wwe gave jeff hardy the title..and kofi is the same as jeff hardy minus the drug charges..

Exactly, guys like Rey Mysterio and Alberto Del Rio held championships. Kofi got over due to his athleticism and high flying moves similar to Rey. There's

^^ dont forget Sandow was a money in the bank winner at some point too.

But mimicking the Miz>>upper mid card/main eventing according to someone's logic in here.

lol yea kofi got over similar to rey but rey was a draw, how many kofi masks were in the crowd man? stop fuckin reaching uve been done, and now after sayin kofi had a 2 year near main event run ur fuckin burnt, u dont know what the fuck ur even sayin and the other nigga dont even know why he callin niggas coons. no one said bolded, your argument is stupid bruh just face it. we all say dumb ass shit from time to time, your in here grasping at straws, man.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Damn, y'all really beefed over this

nah man i just hate when people use that coon shit all outta context, like its really negative that these cats smile and clap and play instruments lol. the shit niggas in here sayin to justify callin em coon is so stupid im losing brain cells. they must prefer their black athletes to do shit to make a crowd fall asleep.

 

[5th Letter]

bruh said NOW kofi stuck where he at, where u been since 2009, this the most over kofi been since lmao

Upper mid card/main eventing>>coon gimmick

oh yea, jamaican kofi had such a long storied upper mid card main event run, oh wait.. stop it bruh.

Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

ur acting like it was a guarantee he would shoot to the main event had it not been for the botch, sure its possible but as it stands, kofi had a 2 month run feuding with orton and showed a lil personality by jumping on a car. not to mention it was 6 years ago. and u cant name shit of note kofi has done since that is anything close to upper mid card/main event. im disappointed that didnt go any further of course but what he's got goin now stands out nearly as much

ur comparing that to these three cats gettin it out the mud starting as extra corny babyfaces but lobbying to vince and making it theirs and over a period of 6+ months develop their characters immensely to the point they are the delusional heels that u still like. not to mention stealing the show and getting valuable mic time and occasionally MAIN EVENTING. every week in comparison to all the valuable promos they dropped in they past gimmick.....

ill stop the strawman nonsense(making u niggas arguments look as stupid as they seem) when u stop reaching for shit to complain about.

Bruh you brought up Kofi's past first. And no it wasnt just a two month thing. Kofi had a two year run in the upper mid card/main event before his push hot derailed because Orton was being a bitch. And I'm not saying it's guaranteed that Kofi would be in the main event. But that beats this New Day shit, and also while this at least gives him TV time, the guy deserves much better than this. And lol at main eventing Raw being progress. Mizdow main evented a Raw or two last year and look where he's at now. I'm not diminishing main eventing Raw but you cannot seriously use that as a reason why this is not a coon gimmick.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you niggas are as delusional as the new day gimmick! ur seriously tryna tell us that them smiling and clapping is why they are coons. what the fuck has kofi been doing for 9 years bruh? smiling happy go lucky babyface

mizdow never main evented raw for one thing, 2, what 2 year run lmao. main eventing ecw? u keep bringing up kofi being upper mid card main event when he NEVER was besides feuding with orton and what did he main event besides raw, ill fuckin wait. kofi's "main event run" lasted from october 09 to damn january 2010. besides that he's been forgettable ic and us champion time after time stop fuckin lyin bruh. u say he deserves much better. HE'S DOING GREAT WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH U NIGGAS!

main eventing raw/being in multiple key segments>>not being booked. and lmao and this clown sayin kofi could be chris benoit. mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. i thought this was the one subforum with out idiots.

-Stereotypical church gimmick

-smiling dancing clapping literally like most every other black gimmick in WWE history

That's what makes it coonery within the context of how WWE has treated their black wrestlers.

Mizdow main evented a Raw in November 2014, a quick google search showed me the results.

Kofi was feuding with Chris Jericho in 2008 even beat him for the IC Title. Won tag titles with CM Punk, beating Kane to get into the elimination chamber match. Occasionally teaming with the top faces, wrestling in number 1 contender matches to determine the challenger for the world title, MAIN EVENTING PPV's by being in the elimination chamber match. That definitely beats cooning it up in New Day.

Getting on tv is fine but do you think this is viable long term? Given the way the WWE is I doubt it.

 

[5th Letter]

People are acting like New Day is out there on their Cryme Tyme shit.

Creative didn't give them anything other than the original preaching gimmick which they've never even acknowledged on air outside of their entrance video.

Clapping. They've stated they came up with that on their own.

Being extra happy and hammy? They've also stated that they came up with that on their own in hopes they could sabotage their positioning as faces, which they were able to accomplish. They've also made mention of their degrees numerous times while under the New Day gimmick. Dudes really in here saying they're less offended by a fake Jamaican gimmick.

It's not that what you're saying isn't logical. It's that you aren't speaking from a fact based position. You see some niggas laughing and having a good time and assume it's because creative has them cooning.

You have to have the facts of the situation backing you if you're just going to go off ranting & raving.

I'm not saying they're Cryme Tyme (more strawman) I'm saying that they are are out there playing stereotypes, smiling and buck dancing, they're supposed to be an hybrid preaching/church/gospel/motivational team. Them taking it and making it work proves how talented they are similar to Sandow. But that whole clapping and happy shit has been given to black wrestlers in the past. I highly doubt they came up with it on their own and even if that was the case it has to be approved by the old white man first, the WWE is too attention to detail driven to just allow off the cuff shit.

As for Kofi's Jamaican gimmick it wasn't the gimmick that I found "less offensive" it was the fact that Kofi was upper mid card/main eventing which always trumps being in a mid card tag team.

What part of I only deal in facts didn't you understand. Don't say recalling Cryme Tyme is straw man tactics within a sentence of recalling what WWE has done in the past to other black talent. Talk about a hypocrite. The point is fuck the feelings, your preconceived notions and deal in facts.

Fact is that what you saw on TV is absolutely nothing like what creative intended New Day to be. Don't tell me what you highly doubt when: 1) You haven't watched the show in months. 2) It came out of their own mouths 3) We've watched the characters drastically evolve since WM.

If you watch some of their outside interviews and on the road stuff you'd see that their characters aren't too far removed from how they are in their personals. They've been constantly repeating how thankful they are for being able to have their characters reflect some of their own personalities. They specifically spoke about the phone call they had with each other where they came up with their attires. They specifically spoke about the meeting they had with one another where they were trying to come up with something the crowd could latch onto and ended up with the New Day Rocks clap which morphed into New Day Sucks.

So fuck all the "assumptions" flying around. Now if you think what they're doing is cooning then that's something for you to deal with inside yourself. Fact remains these guys got themselves over to the point where cats in other promotions are heiling them as the hottest thing currently going in pro wrestling. Week after week for months now they're getting the biggest pops of the show and have been putting on high quality matches while doing it.

One moment it's, "the black talent is too angry."

Next moment it's, "the black talent is too happy."

Just stfu and enjoy the show for once. R-Truth is and was closer to coon than what New Day is doing.

I'm dealing in nothing but facts bruh. The WWE won't just allow those dudes to do shit off the cuff without approval from the WWE. If they decided to be more serious characters while they used their real life accomplishments and intertwined them in their characters I doubt Vince would even allow it. But he damn sure allowed this cheesy, dancing clapping and smiling shit though, and that's even giving them the benefit of the doubt that they came up with everything outside of the theme song. That's the point you're missing. Why couldn't they be serious ass kicking dudes like the Shield were? They had to buck dance and over exaggerate shit to get it over, because it speaks about their talent to make this bullshit work. I don't give a fuck if the wrestler has a happy gimmick or angry gimmick if it's presented in a stereotypical fashion then it's coonery.

 

[5th Letter]

Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

I remember that ish. Kofi botched a move n orton went off calling him stupid or some shit during the match....and that was it for kofi.

Man..i said kofi could be chris benoit...shit the wwe gave jeff hardy the title..and kofi is the same as jeff hardy minus the drug charges..

Exactly, guys like Rey Mysterio and Alberto Del Rio held championships. Kofi got over due to his athleticism and high flying moves similar to Rey. There's

^^ dont forget Sandow was a money in the bank winner at some point too.

But mimicking the Miz>>upper mid card/main eventing according to someone's logic in here.

lol yea kofi got over similar to rey but rey was a draw, how many kofi masks were in the crowd man? stop fuckin reaching uve been done, and now after sayin kofi had a 2 year near main event run ur fuckin burnt, u dont know what the fuck ur even sayin and the other nigga dont even know why he callin niggas coons. no one said bolded, your argument is stupid bruh just face it. we all say dumb ass shit from time to time, your in here grasping at straws, man.

But hey mimicking the Miz was better than not doing anything at all right? Being in a upper mid card position and occasionally main eventing

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

stereotypical church gimmick that is all but gone/turned into some entertaining delusional troll shit>>

and whats the point of bringing up smiling clapping like damn near every babyface of any color (including jamaican kofi) hasnt done it at some point. so u sayin kofi been a coon his entire career. yall still have yet to say how yall would make them or any black wrestlers different.

bruh kofi has never been in a last match of the show elimination chamber. u gotta stop it. please. u on some blu shit.

no way to tell if its viable long term but one could argue it wasnt viable from the jump and its lasted nearly 10 months. but of course you wouldnt know that. if done right it could lead to some real upper midcard shit

and im not denyin kofi teaming with punk or beating jericho, but ur in here actin like he was a world title contender and was near the end of the show for years, shit by your qualifications 80% of the roster has been upper mid card main event. the only time kofi character has been more relevant or put in several segments on tv/ppv is from oct 2009 to jan 2010 if that. this new day shit is a highlight on each of they careers. u can look at how wwe booked past black guys and let it ruin that for u all u want. but at least stop reaching for dumb ass reasons to say that shit.

ill give u sandow main eventing raw, idk if u right i just dont care.

People are acting like New Day is out there on their Cryme Tyme shit.

Creative didn't give them anything other than the original preaching gimmick which they've never even acknowledged on air outside of their entrance video.

Clapping. They've stated they came up with that on their own.

Being extra happy and hammy? They've also stated that they came up with that on their own in hopes they could sabotage their positioning as faces, which they were able to accomplish. They've also made mention of their degrees numerous times while under the New Day gimmick. Dudes really in here saying they're less offended by a fake Jamaican gimmick.

It's not that what you're saying isn't logical. It's that you aren't speaking from a fact based position. You see some niggas laughing and having a good time and assume it's because creative has them cooning.

You have to have the facts of the situation backing you if you're just going to go off ranting & raving.

I'm not saying they're Cryme Tyme (more strawman) I'm saying that they are are out there playing stereotypes, smiling and buck dancing, they're supposed to be an hybrid preaching/church/gospel/motivational team. Them taking it and making it work proves how talented they are similar to Sandow. But that whole clapping and happy shit has been given to black wrestlers in the past. I highly doubt they came up with it on their own and even if that was the case it has to be approved by the old white man first, the WWE is too attention to detail driven to just allow off the cuff shit.

As for Kofi's Jamaican gimmick it wasn't the gimmick that I found "less offensive" it was the fact that Kofi was upper mid card/main eventing which always trumps being in a mid card tag team.

What part of I only deal in facts didn't you understand. Don't say recalling Cryme Tyme is straw man tactics within a sentence of recalling what WWE has done in the past to other black talent. Talk about a hypocrite. The point is fuck the feelings, your preconceived notions and deal in facts.

Fact is that what you saw on TV is absolutely nothing like what creative intended New Day to be. Don't tell me what you highly doubt when: 1) You haven't watched the show in months. 2) It came out of their own mouths 3) We've watched the characters drastically evolve since WM.

If you watch some of their outside interviews and on the road stuff you'd see that their characters aren't too far removed from how they are in their personals. They've been constantly repeating how thankful they are for being able to have their characters reflect some of their own personalities. They specifically spoke about the phone call they had with each other where they came up with their attires. They specifically spoke about the meeting they had with one another where they were trying to come up with something the crowd could latch onto and ended up with the New Day Rocks clap which morphed into New Day Sucks.

So fuck all the "assumptions" flying around. Now if you think what they're doing is cooning then that's something for you to deal with inside yourself. Fact remains these guys got themselves over to the point where cats in other promotions are heiling them as the hottest thing currently going in pro wrestling. Week after week for months now they're getting the biggest pops of the show and have been putting on high quality matches while doing it.

One moment it's, "the black talent is too angry."

Next moment it's, "the black talent is too happy."

Just stfu and enjoy the show for once. R-Truth is and was closer to coon than what New Day is doing.

I'm dealing in nothing but facts bruh. The WWE won't just allow those dudes to do shit off the cuff without approval from the WWE. If they decided to be more serious characters while they used their real life accomplishments and intertwined them in their characters I doubt Vince would even allow it. But he damn sure allowed this cheesy, dancing clapping and smiling shit though, and that's even giving them the benefit of the doubt that they came up with everything outside of the theme song. That's the point you're missing. Why couldn't they be serious ass kicking dudes like the Shield were? They had to buck dance and over exaggerate shit to get it over, because it speaks about their talent to make this bullshit work. I don't give a fuck if the wrestler has a happy gimmick or angry gimmick if it's presented in a stereotypical fashion then it's coonery.

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[Peezy_Jenkins]

Stop the strawman nonsense. In what world is being in a mid card tag team better than being an upper mid card/borderline main event position? Dude was on his way until the Orton botch fucked up his momentum.

I remember that ish. Kofi botched a move n orton went off calling him stupid or some shit during the match....and that was it for kofi.

Man..i said kofi could be chris benoit...shit the wwe gave jeff hardy the title..and kofi is the same as jeff hardy minus the drug charges..

Exactly, guys like Rey Mysterio and Alberto Del Rio held championships. Kofi got over due to his athleticism and high flying moves similar to Rey. There's

^^ dont forget Sandow was a money in the bank winner at some point too.

But mimicking the Miz>>upper mid card/main eventing according to someone's logic in here.

lol yea kofi got over similar to rey but rey was a draw, how many kofi masks were in the crowd man? stop fuckin reaching uve been done, and now after sayin kofi had a 2 year near main event run ur fuckin burnt, u dont know what the fuck ur even sayin and the other nigga dont even know why he callin niggas coons. no one said bolded, your argument is stupid bruh just face it. we all say dumb ass shit from time to time, your in here grasping at straws, man.

But hey mimicking the Miz was better than not doing anything at all right? Being in a upper mid card position and occasionally main eventing

 

[eternal soldier]

These niggas still out here cooning.

where does the idea they cooning come from. matter fact why is that said about every black wrestler that does comedy lol

those niggas are hilarious.

Because that's all I ever see from black wrestlers for the most part in WWE, save for a few here and there. Most black wrestlers are relegated to comedic relief. Big E should be a legit bad ass upper mid card, borderline main event guy right now, and they dropped the ball Kofi years ago. So yes they ARE cooning.

man sit your serious ass down somewhere

you admitted you haven't watched the product since April

this team has been killing it ever since

and they're not just comic relief

they've been the highlight of the tag team division

they're the highlight of raw every week my nigga

and they're tag champions two times over

them dudes ain't cooning. why don't you crack a smile for a change

It's a new day!!! Yes it ih (no typo)