The Wire (Revisted)

[2stepz_ahead]

just a question...Niggas do realize Avon would have been done outside after he went away if not for String, right? Niggas do realize Avon wouldnt have got out as fast w/o String right? Niggas do realize that String grew the business while Avon was away, right ?

Like Ive said before, the power struggle when Avon went away was their downfall.

did string do that or did the lawyer and that tainted drug shit get him out?

if he grew the business then he could have told avon where he got the package.

he grew the business buy letting someone hold him by the balls

 

[R.D.]

nigga he put the co op together with prop joe

String had pretty much removed his self from the day to day...that's how much better they were doing, eff what you talking about

 

[2stepz_ahead]

avon hated the east side.

second...i am sure they didnt get there by not knowing how to read niggas.

string let his business goals blind him.

like i said before.....he could have helped with the corners then go to business.

you need to secure before you move.

the co-op had niggas sharing with prop joe eastside turncoat ass. they aint have no muscle cuz NY came an was taking them over. only thing they had was the package.

an again th greek could have helped them an took all that shit away...the co-op wasnt needed for avon.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

If he rode w Stringer it d been a wrap for him in the streets

How?

So what if he lost his line to New York

They had Prop joe and his connect, he just didn't want to even though it was the better business move

nigga was already getting his ass handed to him in the streets

You acting like if he backed Stringer, everything would have been cool, but he would have lost some associates. Because of String, he had Brother Mouzone and Omar on him. How the hell is he supposed to concentrate on getting rid of Marlo and dealing with the other members of Stringer's group when he's also got to worry about pending retaliation from from two other separate parties.

Avon couldn't back Stringer. The difference between Avon and Marlo is that Avon believed that there were rules to the game, and that you had to abide by those rules. He didn't want Stringer to get taken out, but he understood that Stringer had broken too many of those rules and had to pay.

so avon without weebay

vs

marlo without chris and snoop

who would win?

I've seen Marlo actually get busy or seen him with a gun in his hand or disarm a nigga right in front of him.

I seen Avon doing swan dives behind pay phones, get shotgun shells put in his shoulder, then that same day attack the dude that killed his nephew and get put into submission within seconds

Marlo more ruthless too

Ehhh that's not really a good comparison. Marlo is raw and can handle himself no doubt. But you're using some biased examples against Avon. He was swan diving behind pay phones when bullets were firing. Is Marlo going to stand there and deflect bullets like the juggernaut. He got shot when Marlo's people outmaneuvered him. How exactly does that support Marlo in a confrontation between just the two of them. He got put into submission by Stringer because of the fact that he was wrestling with a gunshot wound. Why not bring up the fact that Avon was a boxer that was supposed to be really good with his hands? And if we going to bring up Marlo's ruthlessness, why not acknowledge that him being overly ruthless is the only reason he got caught to begin with.

Mouzone said "give your man up or lose your line to NY" nothing else...stop trying to over complicate it

He didnt want to use Prop Joe so he needed his line to NY

How am I overcomplicating things. S2J just made posts talking about the fact that they not just going to tell you everything. He just posted a scene where Mouzone listed all the things that they did for Avon and let him know all that shit would go away if his name faded. It ain't just about the drugs or money. He was talking about his connections. Avon used those connections for more than just drug supplies.

 

[R.D.]

If he rode w Stringer it d been a wrap for him in the streets

How?

So what if he lost his line to New York

They had Prop joe and his connect, he just didn't want to even though it was the better business move

nigga was already getting his ass handed to him in the streets

You acting like if he backed Stringer, everything would have been cool, but he would have lost some associates. Because of String, he had Brother Mouzone and Omar on him. How the hell is he supposed to concentrate on getting rid of Marlo and dealing with the other members of Stringer's group when he's also got to worry about pending retaliation from from two other separate parties.

Avon couldn't back Stringer. The difference between Avon and Marlo is that Avon believed that there were rules to the game, and that you had to abide by those rules. He didn't want Stringer to get taken out, but he understood that Stringer had broken too many of those rules and had to pay.

so avon without weebay

vs

marlo without chris and snoop

who would win?

I've seen Marlo actually get busy or seen him with a gun in his hand or disarm a nigga right in front of him.

I seen Avon doing swan dives behind pay phones, get shotgun shells put in his shoulder, then that same day attack the dude that killed his nephew and get put into submission within seconds

Marlo more ruthless too

Ehhh that's not really a good comparison. Marlo is raw and can handle himself no doubt. But you're using some biased examples against Avon. He was swan diving behind pay phones when bullets were firing. Is Marlo going to stand there and deflect bullets like the juggernaut. He got shot when Marlo's people outmaneuvered him. How exactly does that support Marlo in a confrontation between just the two of them. He got put into submission by Stringer because of the fact that he was wrestling with a gunshot wound. Why not bring up the fact that Avon was a boxer that was supposed to be really good with his hands? And if we going to bring up Marlo's ruthlessness, why not acknowledge that him being overly ruthless is the only reason he got caught to begin with.

Mouzone said "give your man up or lose your line to NY" nothing else...stop trying to over complicate it

He didnt want to use Prop Joe so he needed his line to NY

How am I overcomplicating things. S2J just made posts talking about the fact that they not just going to tell you everything. He just posted a scene where Mouzone listed all the things that they did for Avon and let him know all that shit would go away if his name faded. It ain't just about the drugs or money. He was talking about his connections. Avon used those connections for more than just drug supplies.

How does this challenge Avon putting the business over his man, you're just supporting what I already said.

 

[BarryHalls]

I ended up watching the very first episode again out of boredom. Now I'm on season 2 episode 8.

Still the GOAT tv series.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Avon chose the game over Stringer simple as that... And no one s bigger or more important than the game

 

[The Lonious Monk]

If he rode w Stringer it d been a wrap for him in the streets

How?

So what if he lost his line to New York

They had Prop joe and his connect, he just didn't want to even though it was the better business move

nigga was already getting his ass handed to him in the streets

You acting like if he backed Stringer, everything would have been cool, but he would have lost some associates. Because of String, he had Brother Mouzone and Omar on him. How the hell is he supposed to concentrate on getting rid of Marlo and dealing with the other members of Stringer's group when he's also got to worry about pending retaliation from from two other separate parties.

Avon couldn't back Stringer. The difference between Avon and Marlo is that Avon believed that there were rules to the game, and that you had to abide by those rules. He didn't want Stringer to get taken out, but he understood that Stringer had broken too many of those rules and had to pay.

so avon without weebay

vs

marlo without chris and snoop

who would win?

I've seen Marlo actually get busy or seen him with a gun in his hand or disarm a nigga right in front of him.

I seen Avon doing swan dives behind pay phones, get shotgun shells put in his shoulder, then that same day attack the dude that killed his nephew and get put into submission within seconds

Marlo more ruthless too

Ehhh that's not really a good comparison. Marlo is raw and can handle himself no doubt. But you're using some biased examples against Avon. He was swan diving behind pay phones when bullets were firing. Is Marlo going to stand there and deflect bullets like the juggernaut. He got shot when Marlo's people outmaneuvered him. How exactly does that support Marlo in a confrontation between just the two of them. He got put into submission by Stringer because of the fact that he was wrestling with a gunshot wound. Why not bring up the fact that Avon was a boxer that was supposed to be really good with his hands? And if we going to bring up Marlo's ruthlessness, why not acknowledge that him being overly ruthless is the only reason he got caught to begin with.

Mouzone said "give your man up or lose your line to NY" nothing else...stop trying to over complicate it

He didnt want to use Prop Joe so he needed his line to NY

How am I overcomplicating things. S2J just made posts talking about the fact that they not just going to tell you everything. He just posted a scene where Mouzone listed all the things that they did for Avon and let him know all that shit would go away if his name faded. It ain't just about the drugs or money. He was talking about his connections. Avon used those connections for more than just drug supplies.

How does this challenge Avon putting the business over his man, you're just supporting what I already said.

I never said he wasn't putting the business over his man. I said it wasn't all about money like you were suggesting. The business is more than just money to Avon. If it was nothing but money, he would have tried to go Stringer's route because what Stringer proposed was likely to be more lucrative.

 

[R.D.]

lol I didn't mention money once, stop it dude

 

[I Self Lord & Master]

Last season was jus straight up goofy

They got this nigga in paraguay complaining abt no honey nut cheerios?

Lester all out of character pushing along that silly ass serial mess

I watched the whole thing hoping it would all be tied together well wit a nice finish of some sort

Shit was anticlimactic

 

[marc123]

 

[2stepz_ahead]

when Avon didn't agree with stringer....he just didn't agree. he didn't put him in a bind to prove himself.

stringer was killing g family members and setting niggas up

 

[themadlionsfan]

shit still gets me.

 

[themadlionsfan]

Brother Mouzone gave no fucks

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

One of the biggest travesties was not seeing Brother Mouzone put the work in

 

[S2J]

Last season was jus straight up goofy

They got this nigga in paraguay complaining abt no honey nut cheerios?

Lester all out of character pushing along that silly ass serial mess

I watched the whole thing hoping it would all be tied together well wit a nice finish of some sort

Shit was anticlimactic

That wasnt out of character for Lester, u just had to be paying attention to his character arch.

When they got him he was resigned to being shelved and doin busy work. Then when he got that unit it lit a fire in him, had him baggin strippers n shyt (i believe they mwntioned him havin a wife before that)

So him participating was just a natural progression, that he had gotten used to and hooked onto the difference they were making, and the rush, so imo it wasnt out the norm for him to do all that

 

[S2J]

Fun fact: Im watchin 25th Hour and 'Clay Davis' is in this sayin 'sheeeeit'lol this came out before the Wire

I googled it here's the story of the origin:

Spoiler

A few weeks back, David posted a bonus entry in which he launched an inquiry into the origins of Clay Davis' signature pronouncement—the now ubiquitous "sheee-it." (Three e's, one i, right Gus?) I had always assumed that David Simon, great lover of inside jokes that he is, had back in his Sun days reported on some real-life state senator who had a penchant for drawing out the vowels of his expletives. But an astute reader had informed David that Isiah Whitlock Jr., who played Davis, had actually uttered his first sheee-it not on The Wire but in Spike Lee's 2002 film The 25th Hour. This ur-sheee-it suggested it was not Simon's invention. So, whose was it?

I endeavored to put the question to Whitlock himself, which is how he ended up on my voicemail. By the time we connected, I knew I wouldn't be the first to ask, but I couldn't resist hearing the answer from the horse's mouth. Here, by way of valediction, is the story as Whitlock graciously told it to me.

He's been saying sheee-it for years. He picked up the habit, he said, from an uncle who apparently deployed the word in much the same way Clay Davis did. Whitlock offered an example: "How'd you enjoy your dinner?" someone might ask his uncle. To which he would respond, "Sheee-it, I tore them pork chops up."

So, we have Whitlock's uncle to thank for the inflection, but it was Spike Lee who gave sheee-it its big break. Lee, having heard Whitlock toss off a sheee-it or two in conversation, encouraged him to use it in The 25th Hour, in which Whitlock played DEA agent Amos Flood (and later in She Hate Me, in which he reprised the role). From there, someone on The Wire writing staff seems to have picked up on sheee-it's unique power. Whitlock says that when he got his first Wire script, it was already written into the part, extra e's and everything.
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/...final_season/week_10_how_sheeeit_started.html

 

[I Self Lord & Master]

@s2j

Fuckin on hoes out tge shake joint is progression to the mentality thatll participate in that serial killer bs??m

Unless im misunderstanding/misquoting u , u gotta come better than that

 

[S2J]

@s2j

Fuckin on hoes out tge shake joint is progression to the mentality thatll participate in that serial killer bs??m

Unless im misunderstanding/misquoting u , u gotta come better than that

Its all up to interpretation, but Imo from what i observe with movies/tv shows, they exagerratd his mundane, quiet nature in the beginning to emphasize his 'turn up' toward the end.

He was a wolf in sheep's clothign all along.

If you remember his first season, he didnt say shyt, just sat at his desk and they thought he was useless. Then i forget what it was---oh yea, he researched and found an address/photo of Avon. Then Mcnulty looke dat him like 'oh shyt u know what you're doing'

He was a wolf in sheep's clothing all along. He was never 'above' the type dirt Mcnulty could do, they/he just wanted you to believe that

 

[detcatinva]

@s2j

Fuckin on hoes out tge shake joint is progression to the mentality thatll participate in that serial killer bs??m

Unless im misunderstanding/misquoting u , u gotta come better than that

Its all up to interpretation, but Imo from what i observe with movies/tv shows, they exagerratd his mundane, quiet nature in the beginning to emphasize his 'turn up' toward the end.

He was a wolf in sheep's clothign all along.

If you remember his first season, he didnt say shyt, just sat at his desk and they thought he was useless. Then i forget what it was---oh yea, he researched and found an address/photo of Avon. Then Mcnulty looke dat him like 'oh shyt u know what you're doing'

He was a wolf in sheep's clothing all along. He was never 'above' the type dirt Mcnulty could do, they/he just wanted you to believe that

he's right in a sense about lester.


In this scene him and mcnulty go at it about the case, but at the end lester comes back and tells big chops to "check on them fucking properties". lol. Going against the chain of command anyways