The Vick excuses every year are getting old

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momanpr100;3441251 said:
Thats cause i aint in here posting hundreds of posts a day, i actually have a job, bills, family, you know the real world. but u still dont know shit about football and thats a fact. i stated my shit, its just to much for u to comprehend i guess.

Nigga go take care of your bitch and them bitch ass kids then cause i aint trying to hear that shit you gump
 
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DarkRaiden;3441245 said:
Cause those excuses are all true tbh. Stop hating. You act like Philly wasn't about to beat Green bay, the super bowl champs, when Vick's kicker missed 2 or 3 easy kicks from less than 20 yards away. And like And Reid didn't randomly waste a timeout that could have been used ot win the game. Vick had the superbowl last year and his kicker flopped/was paid off. Don't like it?? Too bad. Keep Hating.

Vick had the SUPER BOWL? HE lost in his first playoff game, so let's slow down with that. And you act like Rodgers wasn't dealing with shit like this

[video]http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d81d933ea/Jones-drops-would-be-TD-pass[/video]

Eagles didn't get lucky with that? Rodgers teammates didn't fail him too?

"I just feel we rushed that last play, and we didn't have to rush it," Jackson said. "That's what I was trying to say: 'Just down the ball, just spike the ball, just kind of get back to the huddle and regroup.' But he called 'all go.' We just ran what was called, so that's neither here nor there. It's just unfortunate." .....That's just the star receiver of the team talkin. But if you wanna just blame Reid for the rush at the end of the game, that's cool too.
 
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bow to royalty;3440862 said:
cuz I'm not a Vick fan? haha, damn. I didn't know so much shit was required of me to stay black. Any other athletes I'm racially required to be a fan of?

Naw your not its cool tho now we understand
 
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rap doctor;3441299 said:
Nigga go take care of your bitch and them bitch ass kids then cause i aint trying to hear that shit you gump

and thats exactly wat i do. get out ur mommas crib bum ass nigga.
 
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lame niggas give me indigestion....

i remember yall same niggas in here on Vick scrotum last year when he was murdering shit....

Now yall writing dissertations on why he aint about shit. SMH. You suppose to ride with a team good or bad. You don't see Eagles fan up here writing threads about Tony Romo...I could give two fucks about the Cowboys situation.
 
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En-Fuego22;3441326 said:
Naw your not its cool tho now we understand

haha the dumb shit people say in here sometimes blows my mind, haha. I don't like Vick...so I'm not black. Stupid shit...
 
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bow to royalty;3440479 said:
Ok. How man other QB's do people dig this deep for, and look for all this info for to explain him not playing well? Seriously, how many QB's get sympathy instead of ridicule?

Romo? nah. Cutler? nah. Bradford? nah. Grossman? Nah. Orton? Nah. Henne? Nah. Alex Smith? Nah. Favre last year with the Vikings? Nah. Kevin Kolb when he was on the SAME TEAM, with the same O-line? nah.

See what I'm saying? Vick's the only one benefiting from a decade of football excuses.

I don't agree with that at all. Romo's problems have been Romo's problems. He's had the talent and the system around him. He just makes mistakes. Cutler gets a lot of blame, but people are also noting that he doesn't get good protections. Bradford is new and doesn't even get shitted on like that to begin with. Grossman sucks, so what excuses can be made for him. Orton gets just as much praise as he does hate and is labelled underrated as much as he is bad. Henne sucks. Alex Smith sucks. Favre was garbage his last year with the Vikings. And Kolb was not blamed for what happened last year. People said that he couldn't play behind that O Line, so he essentially got the same excuse that you claim only Vick gets.

I'm not saying that Vick is a perfect QB. He's not. He can't read coverages all that well and he's relatively short so he can't see over the line as well and ends up holding the ball too long. That said, people are looking to blame the bad start on him, and that's ridiculous. When he got injured and went out in ATL, they were winning by two scores, so you can't put that loss on him. When he went out against the Giants they were either winning by 1 or within one score, I forget, but either way they were still in the game. So how do these losses get put solely on Vick. If he's the reason, then why don't they spring forward and win games when he's gone. If he's the problem, then why are they more productive when he's in the game. Clearly, there is more that's not working than the QB.

If you want to wonder why Vick has so many excuses made for him, it's because he gets more blame than any other QB. You throw out names like Grossman and forget that he stunk up the joint on his last team but still managed run straight to a starting position on another team. You bring Romo and forget to mention that he's made some of the most egregious mistakes we've seen from a QB in recent years and yet he's still treated like a darling. On the flipside, Vick has spent most of his time in games this season being ahead of the opponent despite the Offense not clicking on any cylinders, yet all these people are coming out of the woodwork to try and label him a bum. Come on, you want people to stop making excuses for him, then stop going out of your way to bash him.
 
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bow to royalty;3441368 said:
haha the dumb shit people say in here sometimes blows my mind, haha. I don't like Vick...so I'm not black. Stupid shit...

Nope never said that you can dislike him if you want too..But to say you want him tooooooo......naw nevermind you wouldn't understand its a black thing
 
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Rey Negro;3441364 said:
lame niggas give me indigestion....

i remember yall same niggas in here on Vick scrotum last year when he was murdering shit....

Now yall writing dissertations on why he aint about shit. SMH. You suppose to ride with a team good or bad. You don't see Eagles fan up here writing threads about Tony Romo...I could give two fucks about the Cowboys situation.

You don't remember me doin that. But I'm honest. I gave him credit for havin a good year last year. It was undeniable that he played well. But he came in the league in 01, and had a good year in 2010. Sorry for not forgettin the rest of his career cuz of it tho...
 
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En-Fuego22;3441397 said:
Nope never said that you can dislike him if you want too..But to say you want him tooooooo......naw nevermind you wouldn't understand its a black thing

want him to do bad? Mcnair's a black QB that went to the Superbowl. Bucs have a black (considered black) QB that looks promising. We got black head coaches winning Super Bowls. The future of black QB's, and blacks in football, isn't resting on Vick. Vick isn't doing anything new, or doing better than other black QB's before him. He's not Jackie Robinson, Tiger Woods, or the Williams sisters so let's not pretend he is.
 
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bow to royalty;3441437 said:
want him to do bad? Mcnair's a black QB that went to the Superbowl. Bucs have a black (considered black) QB that looks promising. We got black head coaches winning Super Bowls. The future of black QB's, and blacks in football, isn't resting on Vick. Vick isn't doing anything new, or doing better than other black QB's before him. He's not Jackie Robinson, Tiger Woods, or the Williams sisters so let's not pretend he is.

This is when all credibility was lost
 
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bow to royalty;3441437 said:
want him to do bad? Mcnair's a black QB that went to the Superbowl. Bucs have a black (considered black) QB that looks promising. We got black head coaches winning Super Bowls. The future of black QB's, and blacks in football, isn't resting on Vick. Vick isn't doing anything new, or doing better than other black QB's before him. He's not Jackie Robinson, Tiger Woods, or the Williams sisters so let's not pretend he is.

o_0. And I didn't know you had to change AN ENTIRE SPORT to be relevant. There will NEVER be a jackie robinson, tiger woods, OR venus williams in football because no one will be able to have the impact they had on their sport.....
 
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t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088;3441691 said:
o_0. And I didn't know you had to change AN ENTIRE SPORT to be relevant. There will NEVER be a jackie robinson, tiger woods, OR venus williams in football because no one will be able to have the impact they had on their sport.....

I agree so let's not pretend that's what he is. Vick havin a successful NFL career will not make life better for me, you, or the black community. So I don't get the "I'm not black because I'm not pullin for Vick to do well." People on here take the Vick love too far like that thread sayin he's the black American Dream...REALLY?!?

Side Note. I don't follow golf or tennis, but did Woods or the Williams change the sport? They gave black youth role models, and showed that they can excel in sports dominated by whites.
 
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The Lonious Monk;3441374 said:
I don't agree with that at all. Romo's problems have been Romo's problems. He's had the talent and the system around him. He just makes mistakes. Cutler gets a lot of blame, but people are also noting that he doesn't get good protections. Bradford is new and doesn't even get shitted on like that to begin with. Grossman sucks, so what excuses can be made for him. Orton gets just as much praise as he does hate and is labelled underrated as much as he is bad. Henne sucks. Alex Smith sucks. Favre was garbage his last year with the Vikings. And Kolb was not blamed for what happened last year. People said that he couldn't play behind that O Line, so he essentially got the same excuse that you claim only Vick gets.

I'm not saying that Vick is a perfect QB. He's not. He can't read coverages all that well and he's relatively short so he can't see over the line as well and ends up holding the ball too long. That said, people are looking to blame the bad start on him, and that's ridiculous. When he got injured and went out in ATL, they were winning by two scores, so you can't put that loss on him. When he went out against the Giants they were either winning by 1 or within one score, I forget, but either way they were still in the game. So how do these losses get put solely on Vick. If he's the reason, then why don't they spring forward and win games when he's gone. If he's the problem, then why are they more productive when he's in the game. Clearly, there is more that's not working than the QB.

If you want to wonder why Vick has so many excuses made for him, it's because he gets more blame than any other QB. You throw out names like Grossman and forget that he stunk up the joint on his last team but still managed run straight to a starting position on another team. You bring Romo and forget to mention that he's made some of the most egregious mistakes we've seen from a QB in recent years and yet he's still treated like a darling. On the flipside, Vick has spent most of his time in games this season being ahead of the opponent despite the Offense not clicking on any cylinders, yet all these people are coming out of the woodwork to try and label him a bum. Come on, you want people to stop making excuses for him, then stop going out of your way to bash him.

tabernacle!!!! Amen!!
 
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bow to royalty;3441437 said:
want him to do bad? Mcnair's a black QB that went to the Superbowl. Bucs have a black (considered black) QB that looks promising. We got black head coaches winning Super Bowls. The future of black QB's, and blacks in football, isn't resting on Vick. Vick isn't doing anything new, or doing better than other black QB's before him. He's not Jackie Robinson, Tiger Woods, or the Williams sisters so let's not pretend he is.

You are absolutely right and if Vick was white then people would criticize him like Romo while they complain that ESPN overrates him.
 
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DarkRaiden;3441245 said:
Cause those excuses are all true tbh. Stop hating. You act like Philly wasn't about to beat Green bay, the super bowl champs, when Vick's kicker missed 2 or 3 easy kicks from less than 20 yards away. And like And Reid didn't randomly waste a timeout that could have been used ot win the game. Vick had the superbowl last year and his kicker flopped/was paid off. Don't like it?? Too bad. Keep Hating.

So you are going to ignore the INT that Vick threw?
 
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