The Truth Behind The Jay-Z & Jadakiss Beef

[water ur seeds]

Jada was MASSIVE back in late 90's early 00's, people are forgetting that Jay wasnt the mainstream billionaire friendly Hov that people know now, it was more the Rocafella movement that was massive...

Also Jada could kill a street track with whoever and then kill a 'love' song with Mariah Carey or Jaheim...

Similar reason to the 50 and Nas beef over a j.Lo song.

50 and Nas beef was based of Nas screaming on Mega's chick which 50 wasnt cool with...
=10

Again, Jada was not massive. He had a healthy buzz but that was it and even during that time Jay was a superstar. The Roc movement would've been nothing without him. Jay was defeated with ether and was big enough to come out right after with Best of Both Worlds and Blueprint 2 soon after to collect more plaques keeping his credibility in Hip Hop in tact.

Jay was definitely not a superstar, far from it... Hes only become a superstar since he married one... A superstar is a household name all around the world, like 50 Cent and Eminem, Jay has only done that in the last 3-2 years...

He was a rap star, one of the biggest, as was Jada... DMX was bigger than Jay, he had 2 plat albums in one year... Yeah Jay was at the forefront behind Rocafella, but they were still only rap stars...

The D Block, Ruff Ryders movement was just as big, if not bigger than Rocafella movement, it just didn't last as long..

Hard Knock Life sold 5.4 mil in the states, but Jay wasn't a superstar. Jada probably hadn't sold that in his whole career. Aight bruh.

Jada was MASSIVE back in late 90's early 00's, people are forgetting that Jay wasnt the mainstream billionaire friendly Hov that people know now, it was more the Rocafella movement that was massive...

Also Jada could kill a street track with whoever and then kill a 'love' song with Mariah Carey or Jaheim...

Similar reason to the 50 and Nas beef over a j.Lo song.

50 and Nas beef was based of Nas screaming on Mega's chick which 50 wasnt cool with...
=10

Again, Jada was not massive. He had a healthy buzz but that was it and even during that time Jay was a superstar. The Roc movement would've been nothing without him. Jay was defeated with ether and was big enough to come out right after with Best of Both Worlds and Blueprint 2 soon after to collect more plaques keeping his credibility in Hip Hop in tact.

Jay was definitely not a superstar, far from it... Hes only become a superstar since he married one... A superstar is a household name all around the world, like 50 Cent and Eminem, Jay has only done that in the last 3-2 years...

He was a rap star, one of the biggest, as was Jada... DMX was bigger than Jay, he had 2 plat albums in one year... Yeah Jay was at the forefront behind Rocafella, but they were still only rap stars...

The D Block, Ruff Ryders movement was just as big, if not bigger than Rocafella movement, it just didn't last as long..

Wow...No need to argue with this guy just as long as everyone knows he is absolutely incorrect. Please tell me nggas know he is absolutely incorrect

Listen, rap fans bought Jay's album... That DIDNT make him a superstar... Puff Daddy's a superstar and hes not even proper rapper... Selling units isnt only what makes you a superstar... Yes Jay is now a superstar but he wasnt in the early 00's...

A superstar is someone who, like 40 year old non rap fans in China or India talk about (50cent, Em, Puff)... Or who goes on talk shows in these other countries... For instance Jay has only gone on Jonathan Ross and Graham Norton etc in England in the last 4 years since he has been married to Beyonce...

Marrying Beyonce has made him a superstar, that opened doors for to get the 'Bee Hive' machine and next generation of teenage and middle class fans behind him and got parents of kids England, Italy, Spain, China knowing who he is 'the guy married to beyonce' ... Since marrying her hes been able mingle with a different crowd (coldplay etc)...

And that makes no sense. According to Quincy Jones, once you sell over 500k, the white demographic is for sure buying your album. But you say only "rap fans" bought it after selling 5.4 domestically? Aight bruh.

What dont you understand, that doesn't make you superstar, it makes you a RAP STAR... HIP HOP STAR...

Yes white HIP HOP fans where buying his records... You think the world didnt have 5 million hip hop fans in the early 00's??? DMX sold 15million in his first 3 albums... That didnt make you a household name around the world, it makes you a star to hip hop fans...

Fans were actually buying CDs back then, supporting hip hop...

Nope. Your definition is superstar is biased

No... A superstar is Marvin Gaye, Beatles, Britney Spears, Elton John, Queen, Abba, Jacksons, 50 Cent, Supremes, Eminem and JAY Z now, they trend send every barrier and generational gap, whever you like them or not... They make all the papers, magazines, news across the world... Someones grandma in East fckn Norway or something would of heard of them, thats a superstar... Otherwise they are just stars in their original field... TBH J Lo help make Puffy a star to... Its what publicist try and do, make you date a pop star...

TBH, very few rappers have become superstars...

 

[dwade206]

Overall, my point is Jada was never on Jay's level...ever.

 

[S2J]

Overall, my point is Jada was never on Jay's level...ever.

Lol Idk how we got sidetracked, but this is all that needs to be said regarding the topic at hand

 

[_Lefty]

There was a time when Jada had more momentum than Jay, but there was never a point in his career when he was as big a star as Jay. the talk about Jada really took off after his solo song on Ruff Ryders Vol. 1 and his work with Ruff ryders after that, that's when people started really wanting that solo album which was highly anticipated within the hip hop community, not on a snoop, or 50 cent level, but more along the lines of "damn that would be dope". That was the biggest buzz he ever had on his own, including "why", which is his biggest song to date. Once that solo album dropped and wasn't what niggas thought it was going to be, he went back to just being a dope artist and not approaching superstardome like many people thought he would become. He was never bigger than Jay, 99-01 jada was makin noise. He was one of the first people I remember with so many quoatables, this is before the internet, everybody knew a dope jada line. Him and styles popularized that "______ the color of _____" that niggas do now. He was the king of 1 liners for a minute. Basically what wayne was before wayne really took off. A nigga that could rhyme, but couldn't really put a album together. Jada has his place, a dope rapper, but lacks what it takes to become a jay-z/Nas type of heavyweight.

 

[raheemclassick]

Jay was definitely not a superstar, far from it... Hes only become a superstar since he married one... A superstar is a household name all around the world, like 50 Cent and Eminem, Jay has only done that in the last 3-2 years...

He was a rap star, one of the biggest, as was Jada... DMX was bigger than Jay, he had 2 plat albums in one year... Yeah Jay was at the forefront behind Rocafella, but they were still only rap stars...

The D Block, Ruff Ryders movement was just as big, if not bigger than Rocafella movement, it just didn't last as long..

(What are you, ignit or something")

 

[raheemclassick]

they was scared on Styles street rep moreso his music

Nobody was scared of Styles. Ask Trick Trick! LOL"

back then they were .... All that hardest nigga out shit. U tell me why they was coppin pleas talkin bout styles we cool tho?

Back then is when Styles got knotted up by Trick Trick" We all know A lot of these rappers don't like Jay, but you will never hear of any of them putting hands on him"

Shows how much people know, talkin bout nggas was scared of Styles P foh

What nggas dont know, Trick trick is under Jay z umbrella!!

That came to light when Jim Jones n co slapped up Ty Ty's brother and Neyo (lol), then next show they had in Detroit they got rushed on stage and shot at

"That sh*t is 100% behind that Louis Vuitton sh*t. That was the whole retaliation because Jim didn’t even expect that sh*t to come out of Detroit from that New York sh*t.

Jay and them got goons in Detroit, specifically Trick Trick who didn’t like that sh*t. N***** got on a conference call with the B.I.G. Homies and Jim got touched and it was simple as that. He just got lucky. The shooting occurred when one of Jimmy’s lame n***** tried to shoot. It wasn’t that they were trying to assassinate Jim. That was it"

Whole story:
http://www.thisis50.com/m/discussion?id=784568:Topic:12141483

Speak on it brother!

 

[water ur seeds]

Jay was definitely not a superstar, far from it... Hes only become a superstar since he married one... A superstar is a household name all around the world, like 50 Cent and Eminem, Jay has only done that in the last 3-2 years...

He was a rap star, one of the biggest, as was Jada... DMX was bigger than Jay, he had 2 plat albums in one year... Yeah Jay was at the forefront behind Rocafella, but they were still only rap stars...

The D Block, Ruff Ryders movement was just as big, if not bigger than Rocafella movement, it just didn't last as long..

(What are you, ignit or something")

You mean ignorant??? No Im not...

 

[raheemclassick]

This where I ether that point.. Eminem the biggest rapper in 2000 was the opening act of the Up In Smoke Tour.

50 Cent was bigger than Jay-Z during Roc The Mic tour yet still shared headlining duties.

Its not how you start, but how you end"

Em don't count because of white bias" Jay is no-doubt bigger then 50, dmx, anybody on double R.

 

[raheemclassick]

Jay was definitely not a superstar, far from it... Hes only become a superstar since he married one... A superstar is a household name all around the world, like 50 Cent and Eminem, Jay has only done that in the last 3-2 years...

He was a rap star, one of the biggest, as was Jada... DMX was bigger than Jay, he had 2 plat albums in one year... Yeah Jay was at the forefront behind Rocafella, but they were still only rap stars...

The D Block, Ruff Ryders movement was just as big, if not bigger than Rocafella movement, it just didn't last as long..

(What are you, ignit or something")

You mean ignorant??? No Im not...

I know the proper spelling, but in this instance, it's meant to sound as it's spelled (And of course no disrespect intended)

 

[GetoBoy]

Lol @ niggas still tryna act like jay wasn't that nigga after vol 2 dropped and Dmx Ja Jada and everybody else was bigger then him.....that thought process even contradicts this video even more...Jada was just as big as jay but jay had the power to get him off songs to "steal his shine"....jay had a all new york/philly tour (hard knock life) and was the headliner??? And don't give me up in smoke tour becuz that was a west coast rapper tour em was just down with Dre so Dre put him on it.....look at ruff ryders/cash money tour that's more equal of artist on the same level both headlining....if you wanna say jay and x were equal star wise I guess maybe but to say x was bigger and Jada and jay were equal you niggas need a time machine

 

[vageneral08]

If you think DMX and jay-z wasn't on the same popularity level at one time you tripping foreal and if you think ruff ryders wasn't on the same level as roc a fella at some point you smoking crack foreal

 

[dalyricalbandit]

After the show it's the afterparty, then,

After the party it's the hotel lobby, then

After the Belve then it's probably Cris,

And after the original it's probably this

 

[TheManInBlack4.0]

There's a lot of revisionist history in this thread.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Jay even came up with the phrase "X'd the game" for a reason, nobody was bigger than X from 98-2000

 

[GetoBoy]

Man roc a fella was so big Memphis bleek got gold plaques.... That should tell you all you need to know right there.... Niggas really tryna run with jay wasn't that big till Beyonce huh??? Y'all need to stop idgaf who buys yo album if you selling 5x mill and headlining one of the biggest hip hop tours EVER I'm sorry that puts you at the top of food chain...I mean damn the nigga won his only Grammy for best hip hop album with vol 2...wtf do y'all niggas call the biggest shit lol

 

[antoseeg]

Jay even came up with the phrase "X'd the game" for a reason, nobody was bigger than X from 98-2000

There's more to that phrase than just that.

X'd your name out put Jigga on top

and dropped albums nonstop for ya nigga

Jay-Z has never said that any rapper is superior to him in any way. He calls himself the God M.C.

 

[antoseeg]

i

 

[its....JOHN B]

Jay even came up with the phrase "X'd the game" for a reason, nobody was bigger than X from 98-2000

There's more to that line than just that.

X'd your name out put Jigga on top

and dropped albums nonstop for ya nigga

No, I'm pretty sure it was 50 he was talking about when he said he "X'd the game"

 

[5 Grand]

I remember those years. The guy in that video summed it up pretty good.

From 97-00 Jadakiss was considered the new kid on the block and always brought his A-game to the studio. Whether it was posse jams, remixes or collabos, Jadakiss never dissapointed. He was on every mixtape in that era. And this was before the internet and file sharing. I can remember going to 125th st in Harlem and copping the Green Lantern mixtape with 2 Gunz Up. You know the song where he says he's "Top 5 Dead or Alive/ and that's just off one LP"

But after two solo albums Jadakiss's buzz died down. He didn't strike while the iron was hot. He never delivered that 5 mic classic. I'm not sure why he didn't blow up like Jay Z, DMX or 50 Cent. maybe it had something to do with that song New York , New York and 50s response (Piggybank).

In any case, Jadakiss was one of the hottest MCs in the late 90s/early 00s but being "hot" didn't translate into fame and/or celebrity status. Not on the level of Jay Z, Drake, Lil Wayne Nicki Minaj, etc.

But yeah, he was killing mixtapes from 99-01.

 

[esco soprano]

This is bullshit chatty patty trash. I could say the same shit based on all the shit I've heard/seen/guessed. 10 minutes of my life I can't get back.