The Truth Behind The Jay-Z & Jadakiss Beef

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aneed123;7947030 said:
S2J;7946134 said:
And we too grown to look at Jay as a snake. Best of Me and Fiesta continued to elevate Jay's brand. Those are 2 pivotal songs in his success.

Jay saw somethin all them dudes didnt. Think about it, that was 2001, 14 years ago, and they was already talkin that 'damn he aint tryin to hand the ball off to you!!"

Nah, ngga. Dude had huge plans in store aint no 'hand offs'. He knew all along to keep his foot on the throttle while they was waitin to be handed the title of next. Look where that lazy ngga Kiss at now lol

I tellyou what, 50 wasnt waitin for no handouts...

just cuz it worked out for Jay doesnt mean he wasnt a snake for backdooring other peoples songs and stealing their shine. He knew what he was doing and he was undermining Kiss hype while up lifting his. If it was my song or if I were on a song and he putsout his remix purposeley before the original drops (cuz he knows his popularity will blow it up) and he did it once before, we are fighting on sight

THEY WEREN'T JADAKISS SONGS ... lol .... niggas with this emo shit man ... lol
 
jono;7947572 said:
That nigga lying bruh.

Kiss and them did have beef with Jay and the Roc (obviously) but that didn't stem from any jealousy on Jay part at least not overtly, LOX was just riding for X who had enough of Jay's posturing.

If you listened to those LOX disses, especially SP they were going at Jay heavy and he didn't want no parts of that shit, he was cool with antagonizing X from a distance.
You see what being smart gets you. Trust me, Jay-Z wasn't scared of any of them, he was just smart enough not to get in the mud with all of them, 1 or 2 yeah, but not all of them"

 
raheemclassick;7947689 said:

they was scared on Styles street rep moreso his music

Nobody was scared of Styles. Ask Trick Trick! LOL"

back then they were .... All that hardest nigga out shit. U tell me why they was coppin pleas talkin bout styles we cool tho?
 
JDSTAYWITIT.;7947711 said:
aneed123;7947030 said:
S2J;7946134 said:
And we too grown to look at Jay as a snake. Best of Me and Fiesta continued to elevate Jay's brand. Those are 2 pivotal songs in his success.

Jay saw somethin all them dudes didnt. Think about it, that was 2001, 14 years ago, and they was already talkin that 'damn he aint tryin to hand the ball off to you!!"

Nah, ngga. Dude had huge plans in store aint no 'hand offs'. He knew all along to keep his foot on the throttle while they was waitin to be handed the title of next. Look where that lazy ngga Kiss at now lol

I tellyou what, 50 wasnt waitin for no handouts...

just cuz it worked out for Jay doesnt mean he wasnt a snake for backdooring other peoples songs and stealing their shine. He knew what he was doing and he was undermining Kiss hype while up lifting his. If it was my song or if I were on a song and he putsout his remix purposeley before the original drops (cuz he knows his popularity will blow it up) and he did it once before, we are fighting on sight

THEY WEREN'T JADAKISS SONGS ... lol .... niggas with this emo shit man ... lol

U say emo I say principalities
 
aneed123;7947719 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;7947711 said:
aneed123;7947030 said:
S2J;7946134 said:
And we too grown to look at Jay as a snake. Best of Me and Fiesta continued to elevate Jay's brand. Those are 2 pivotal songs in his success.

Jay saw somethin all them dudes didnt. Think about it, that was 2001, 14 years ago, and they was already talkin that 'damn he aint tryin to hand the ball off to you!!"

Nah, ngga. Dude had huge plans in store aint no 'hand offs'. He knew all along to keep his foot on the throttle while they was waitin to be handed the title of next. Look where that lazy ngga Kiss at now lol

I tellyou what, 50 wasnt waitin for no handouts...

just cuz it worked out for Jay doesnt mean he wasnt a snake for backdooring other peoples songs and stealing their shine. He knew what he was doing and he was undermining Kiss hype while up lifting his. If it was my song or if I were on a song and he putsout his remix purposeley before the original drops (cuz he knows his popularity will blow it up) and he did it once before, we are fighting on sight

THEY WEREN'T JADAKISS SONGS ... lol .... niggas with this emo shit man ... lol

U say emo I say principalities

What priciples? Nigga you have gone full emo ...neither track was jadas ...therefore dictating what goes on with the tracks was not his job ....the actual artist who those songs belonged to wanted jay so they got him nh .... Sorry nigga ...tuff fuckin luck ....welcome to the big leagues
 
aneed123;7947718 said:
raheemclassick;7947689 said:

they was scared on Styles street rep moreso his music

Nobody was scared of Styles. Ask Trick Trick! LOL"

back then they were .... All that hardest nigga out shit. U tell me why they was coppin pleas talkin bout styles we cool tho?
Back then is when Styles got knotted up by Trick Trick" We all know A lot of these rappers don't like Jay, but you will never hear of any of them putting hands on him"

 
Jay-Z ain't Trick Trick so I don't see why that's relevant.

Besides niggas wasn't really going to do anything to Jay except talk shit and make threats, it wasn't life or death like that.
 
jono;7947847 said:
Jay-Z ain't Trick Trick so I don't see why that's relevant.

Besides niggas wasn't really going to do anything to Jay except talk shit and make threats, it wasn't life or death like that.
Don't matter, the hardest out got knocked out!

 


trilladelic;7947911 said:
https://youtu.be/WuYWIA5TnU0

^^^i had no idea this shit existed. kell's trippin for not putting this version on tp2.com..
Thats A pro-tools version. And him & Styles got another one.



 
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aneed123;7947718 said:
raheemclassick;7947689 said:

they was scared on Styles street rep moreso his music

Nobody was scared of Styles. Ask Trick Trick! LOL"

back then they were .... All that hardest nigga out shit. U tell me why they was coppin pleas talkin bout styles we cool tho?

Post an interview or an article stating what you just said to be fact"
 
Jada was MASSIVE back in late 90's early 00's, people are forgetting that Jay wasnt the mainstream billionaire friendly Hov that people know now, it was more the Rocafella movement that was massive...

Also Jada could kill a street track with whoever and then kill a 'love' song with Mariah Carey or Jaheim...

LPast;7942374 said:
Similar reason to the 50 and Nas beef over a j.Lo song.

50 and Nas beef was based of Nas screaming on Mega's chick which 50 wasnt cool with...
=10
 
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water ur seeds;7947992 said:
Jada was MASSIVE back in late 90's early 00's, people are forgetting that Jay wasnt the mainstream billionaire friendly Hov that people know now, it was more the Rocafella movement that was massive...

Also Jada could kill a street track with whoever and then kill a 'love' song with Mariah Carey or Jaheim...

LPast;7942374 said:
Similar reason to the 50 and Nas beef over a j.Lo song.

50 and Nas beef was based of Nas screaming on Mega's chick which 50 wasnt cool with...
=10


Again, Jada was not massive. He had a healthy buzz but that was it and even during that time Jay was a superstar. The Roc movement would've been nothing without him. Jay was defeated with ether and was big enough to come out right after with Best of Both Worlds and Blueprint 2 soon after to collect more plaques keeping his credibility in Hip Hop in tact.
 
dwade206;7948015 said:
water ur seeds;7947992 said:
Jada was MASSIVE back in late 90's early 00's, people are forgetting that Jay wasnt the mainstream billionaire friendly Hov that people know now, it was more the Rocafella movement that was massive...

Also Jada could kill a street track with whoever and then kill a 'love' song with Mariah Carey or Jaheim...

LPast;7942374 said:
Similar reason to the 50 and Nas beef over a j.Lo song.

50 and Nas beef was based of Nas screaming on Mega's chick which 50 wasnt cool with...
=10


Again, Jada was not massive. He had a healthy buzz but that was it and even during that time Jay was a superstar. The Roc movement would've been nothing without him. Jay was defeated with ether and was big enough to come out right after with Best of Both Worlds and Blueprint 2 soon after to collect more plaques keeping his credibility in Hip Hop in tact.


Jay was definitely not a superstar, far from it... Hes only become a superstar since he married one... A superstar is a household name all around the world, like 50 Cent and Eminem, Jay has only done that in the last 3-2 years...

He was a rap star, one of the biggest, as was Jada... DMX was bigger than Jay, he had 2 plat albums in one year... Yeah Jay was at the forefront behind Rocafella, but they were still only rap stars...

The D Block, Ruff Ryders movement was just as big, if not bigger than Rocafella movement, it just didn't last as long..
 
trilladelic;7947911 said:
https://youtu.be/WuYWIA5TnU0

^^^i had no idea this shit existed. kell's trippin for not putting this version on tp2.com..

Wooow, i assumed Kiss was on the remix version. This is a whole differnt song! lmao

Fiesta and fiesta Remix BOTH are on TP2.com (R. Kelly did this a lot, with Fiesta and I Wish each song had 2 versions,also Ignition on chocolate factory, all remixes w/ diff beats)

So dude is dead wrong. What happened here is Kiss jumped on 1 song, Jay jumped on the remix which Kellz already had made and was a totally different song, Jay version was hotter, so Kiss' version didnt make the album bc he probly aint want 2 many rap features on there

@aneed123

 
water ur seeds;7947992 said:
Jada was MASSIVE back in late 90's early 00's, people are forgetting that Jay wasnt the mainstream billionaire friendly Hov that people know now, it was more the Rocafella movement that was massive...

Also Jada could kill a street track with whoever and then kill a 'love' song with Mariah Carey or Jaheim...

LPast;7942374 said:
Similar reason to the 50 and Nas beef over a j.Lo song.

50 and Nas beef was based of Nas screaming on Mega's chick which 50 wasnt cool with...
=10


50 was removed from an R&B feature and Nas took the slot. I think that's where it stemmed from. 50 just being a crumb as usual.
 
raheemclassick;7947842 said:
aneed123;7947718 said:
raheemclassick;7947689 said:

they was scared on Styles street rep moreso his music

Nobody was scared of Styles. Ask Trick Trick! LOL"

back then they were .... All that hardest nigga out shit. U tell me why they was coppin pleas talkin bout styles we cool tho?
Back then is when Styles got knotted up by Trick Trick" We all know A lot of these rappers don't like Jay, but you will never hear of any of them putting hands on him"


Shows how much people know, talkin bout nggas was scared of Styles P foh

What nggas dont know, Trick trick is under Jay z umbrella!!

That came to light when Jim Jones n co slapped up Ty Ty's brother and Neyo (lol), then next show they had in Detroit they got rushed on stage and shot at

"That sh*t is 100% behind that Louis Vuitton sh*t. That was the whole retaliation because Jim didn’t even expect that sh*t to come out of Detroit from that New York sh*t.

Jay and them got goons in Detroit, specifically Trick Trick who didn’t like that sh*t. N***** got on a conference call with the B.I.G. Homies and Jim got touched and it was simple as that. He just got lucky. The shooting occurred when one of Jimmy’s lame n***** tried to shoot. It wasn’t that they were trying to assassinate Jim. That was it"


Whole story:
http://www.thisis50.com/m/discussion?id=784568:Topic:12141483
 

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