The Truth Behind The Jay-Z & Jadakiss Beef

[S2J]

And we too grown to look at Jay as a snake. Best of Me and Fiesta continued to elevate Jay's brand. Those are 2 pivotal songs in his success.

Jay saw somethin all them dudes didnt. Think about it, that was 2001, 14 years ago, and they was already talkin that 'damn he aint tryin to hand the ball off to you!!"

Nah, ngga. Dude had huge plans in store aint no 'hand offs'. He knew all along to keep his foot on the throttle while they was waitin to be handed the title of next. Look where that lazy ngga Kiss at now lol

I tellyou what, 50 wasnt waitin for no handouts...

 

[ikey_baby]

This guy karceno hates jay z so he will always make jay look a snake or a pussy.

 

[MECCA1000]

I always thought that since the ROC & Def Jam had a joint venture that Jay didn't have a big budget from Def Jam .......... and the ROC pretty much funded their own projects ....... meh

 

[MECCA1000]

Where's the IC Dame Dash ........

 

[Sweat jones]

When Jada had that solo song on RR 1st compilation album his buzz was CRAZY on the streets.. This when everybody wasnt even fucking wit the internet like that.. In philly niggaz was fiendin for a new kiss song/freestyle/whatever.. It was more 50 like to me rather than banks.. At least at a street level..

Co-sign

And they dropped his first single with neptunes who was massive at the time

It was weak

The album was weak too cept for the primo joint

 

[S2J]

who gives a fuck? kiss is known more for his laugh than any of his raps

My actual reaction lls

 

[dalyricalbandit]

Curtisssssss >>>>>> that 50 diss to cam

 

[aneed123]

Meh. Alot of this any one of us could have said.

Its about 10% inside knowledge, if that, and tbh you could argue NONE is insider knowledge. Most is guessing and/or common sense. Still a good explanation, piecing of the puzzle.

Ngga said 'Beans went at Jada but he aint want none w/ Styles'. Nah. Battle-wise, Kiss was a tad ahead of Styles.

they was scared on Styles street rep moreso his music

 

[aneed123]

And we too grown to look at Jay as a snake. Best of Me and Fiesta continued to elevate Jay's brand. Those are 2 pivotal songs in his success.

Jay saw somethin all them dudes didnt. Think about it, that was 2001, 14 years ago, and they was already talkin that 'damn he aint tryin to hand the ball off to you!!"

Nah, ngga. Dude had huge plans in store aint no 'hand offs'. He knew all along to keep his foot on the throttle while they was waitin to be handed the title of next. Look where that lazy ngga Kiss at now lol

I tellyou what, 50 wasnt waitin for no handouts...

just cuz it worked out for Jay doesnt mean he wasnt a snake for backdooring other peoples songs and stealing their shine. He knew what he was doing and he was undermining Kiss hype while up lifting his. If it was my song or if I were on a song and he putsout his remix purposeley before the original drops (cuz he knows his popularity will blow it up) and he did it once before, we are fighting on sight

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

I didnt watch the video Im just going off the comments.

But at the time how could Jay steal Kiss shine during an era where everybody could eat? It makes no sense.

Seriously if you had a hot single and dope video by Hype you was good. It was room for everyone then.

 

[S2J]

And we too grown to look at Jay as a snake. Best of Me and Fiesta continued to elevate Jay's brand. Those are 2 pivotal songs in his success.

Jay saw somethin all them dudes didnt. Think about it, that was 2001, 14 years ago, and they was already talkin that 'damn he aint tryin to hand the ball off to you!!"

Nah, ngga. Dude had huge plans in store aint no 'hand offs'. He knew all along to keep his foot on the throttle while they was waitin to be handed the title of next. Look where that lazy ngga Kiss at now lol

I tellyou what, 50 wasnt waitin for no handouts...

just cuz it worked out for Jay doesnt mean he wasnt a snake for backdooring other peoples songs and stealing their shine. He knew what he was doing and he was undermining Kiss hype while up lifting his. If it was my song or if I were on a song and he putsout his remix purposeley before the original drops (cuz he knows his popularity will blow it up) and he did it once before, we are fighting on sight

Enough bruh, enough.

Thia is a business. Jay z dont owe nobody shyt and nggas get they songs roughed all the time. Tie up your business game Kiss.

Jay-Z this, Jay-Z that (Jay-Z won't hold my hand no more)

Jay-Z this, Jay-Z that

Jay-Z that, Jay-Z this (Jay-Z won't give me no money)

Get off Jay-Z dick

 

[CoolJoe]

And we too grown to look at Jay as a snake. Best of Me and Fiesta continued to elevate Jay's brand. Those are 2 pivotal songs in his success.

Jay saw somethin all them dudes didnt. Think about it, that was 2001, 14 years ago, and they was already talkin that 'damn he aint tryin to hand the ball off to you!!"

Nah, ngga. Dude had huge plans in store aint no 'hand offs'. He knew all along to keep his foot on the throttle while they was waitin to be handed the title of next. Look where that lazy ngga Kiss at now lol

I tellyou what, 50 wasnt waitin for no handouts...

just cuz it worked out for Jay doesnt mean he wasnt a snake for backdooring other peoples songs and stealing their shine. He knew what he was doing and he was undermining Kiss hype while up lifting his. If it was my song or if I were on a song and he putsout his remix purposeley before the original drops (cuz he knows his popularity will blow it up) and he did it once before, we are fighting on sight

You hate Jay as much as Tomp, lmao.

 

[aneed123]

And we too grown to look at Jay as a snake. Best of Me and Fiesta continued to elevate Jay's brand. Those are 2 pivotal songs in his success.

Jay saw somethin all them dudes didnt. Think about it, that was 2001, 14 years ago, and they was already talkin that 'damn he aint tryin to hand the ball off to you!!"

Nah, ngga. Dude had huge plans in store aint no 'hand offs'. He knew all along to keep his foot on the throttle while they was waitin to be handed the title of next. Look where that lazy ngga Kiss at now lol

I tellyou what, 50 wasnt waitin for no handouts...

just cuz it worked out for Jay doesnt mean he wasnt a snake for backdooring other peoples songs and stealing their shine. He knew what he was doing and he was undermining Kiss hype while up lifting his. If it was my song or if I were on a song and he putsout his remix purposeley before the original drops (cuz he knows his popularity will blow it up) and he did it once before, we are fighting on sight

You hate Jay as much as Tomp, lmao.

Just call it how I see it. I remember all of those times well. Folk see his success and money and excuse/pretend he didnt do fucked up shit. Dude has a history of doing this shit

 

[S2J]

I didnt watch the video Im just going off the comments.

But at the time how could Jay steal Kiss shine during an era where everybody could eat? It makes no sense.

Seriously if you had a hot single and dope video by Hype you was good. It was room for everyone then.

Exactly! But revisionist history: man Jay was blockin everybody

No one peeps that NONE of the 1 dimensional street artists stayed on top: Kiss, Beans, Styles (remember he had momentum with Good Times and My Life)

Its not Jay fault the game changed

 

[jono]

That nigga lying bruh.

Kiss and them did have beef with Jay and the Roc (obviously) but that didn't stem from any jealousy on Jay part at least not overtly, LOX was just riding for X who had enough of Jay's posturing.

If you listened to those LOX disses, especially SP they were going at Jay heavy and he didn't want no parts of that shit, he was cool with antagonizing X from a distance.

 

[loch121]

Yeah I've been listening to Karceno for a minute. I'm not sure how he gets his information or how credible he is, but the shit is entertaining.

While his shit is ent,I know for a fact he got some shit wrong,

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

Shit sounds like nothing but feelings and thirst .... just a microcosm of the entertainment industry

"boo hoo another nigga wanted you on their song that aint even mine but im mad at you now ... boo hooo ima cry"

smmfh blood

then lol @ the beans story ... "nah .. i aint got no problem wit duke... but fuck it doe .. i need the promo nah mean... sooo... DIE NIGGA DIE"

lol .... a bunch of phony ass bullshit ...

... but i must say out of all of this ... the silver lining has to be that this video made me go back a listen to fiesta again .. and in doing so .. i realized that there was an NC17 version of the fiesta video ... primed for BET UNCUT ... shit... titties out every damn where ... i must have been too young to remeber that shit


DAYUM.... right off the top too

 

[raheemclassick]

And we too grown to look at Jay as a snake. Best of Me > Jay was asked to do the remix by the record company and when it comes to Fiesta > Only thing Jada had to do with this song was A 16 him and Styles dropped on A bootleg version, Jay, Boo & Gotti were the only rappers on that song officially /

Jay saw something all them dudes didn't. Think about it, that was 2001, 14 years ago, and they was already talking that 'damn he ain't trying to hand the ball off to you!!"

Nah, ngga. Dude had huge plans in store ain't no 'hand offs'. He knew all along to keep his foot on the throttle while they was waiting to be handed the title of next. Look where that lazy ngga Kiss at now lol

I'll tell you what, 50 wasn't wait'n for no handouts...< On the money with this one.

 

[raheemclassick]

they was scared on Styles street rep moreso his music

Nobody was scared of Styles. Ask Trick Trick! LOL"

 

[raheemclassick]

And we too grown to look at Jay as a snake. Best of Me and Fiesta continued to elevate Jay's brand. Those are 2 pivotal songs in his success.

Jay saw somethin all them dudes didnt. Think about it, that was 2001, 14 years ago, and they was already talkin that 'damn he aint tryin to hand the ball off to you!!"

Nah, ngga. Dude had huge plans in store aint no 'hand offs'. He knew all along to keep his foot on the throttle while they was waitin to be handed the title of next. Look where that lazy ngga Kiss at now lol

I tellyou what, 50 wasnt waitin for no handouts...

just cuz it worked out for Jay doesnt mean he wasnt a snake for backdooring other peoples songs and stealing their shine. He knew what he was doing and he was undermining Kiss hype while up lifting his. If it was my song or if I were on a song and he putsout his remix purposeley before the original drops (cuz he knows his popularity will blow it up) and he did it once before, we are fighting on sight

But none of the bold is true"