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no. Nas is not overrated.

And where do Em fit in with this T/S??

Matter fact .. didnt Em say this in his Classic TES?! :

I got a list here's the order of my list that it's in.

It goes, Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outcast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me.


(by the way, Nas and Em are my top 2 D.O.A's .. so no hate to the great Em at all)
 
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therealist_;88936 said:
no. Nas is not overrated.

And where do Em fit in with this T/S??

Matter fact .. didnt Em say this in his Classic TES?! :

I got a list here's the order of my list that it's in.

It goes, Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outcast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me.


(by the way, Nas and Em are my top 2 D.O.A's .. so no hate to the great Em at all)

T/S is a Eminem fan and this is a undercover way of saying Em is better than Nas.
 
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jamacia;88921 said:
Some of Nas best work was in this decade. His past 3 albums were Untitled, Hip Hop Is Dead and Street Disciple, the first two were critically acclaimed while the last one was slightly panned and understandably so.

Critically acclaimed is a fancy word for saying white people liked your album. His last three albums were exactly what I said "average" they weren't great but they weren't garbage either. Compare those three albums to God's Son, Lost Tapes, or Stillmatic and you will see my point.
 
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therealist_;88936 said:
no. Nas is not overrated.

And where do Em fit in with this T/S??

Matter fact .. didnt Em say this in his Classic TES?! :

I got a list here's the order of my list that it's in.

It goes, Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outcast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me.


(by the way, Nas and Em are my top 2 D.O.A's .. so no hate to the great Em at all)

Just that Eminem has 3 universally accepted over critically acclaimed Album's by the masses and the industry countless Grammy Awards for his classics and general wordwide opinion by fan's is that

The Marshall Mathers LP is regarded as one of the greatest Album's ever made

Nas has made some of the most aweful Album's like Nastradamus, Streets Disciple, Hip-Hop Is Dead, I Am etc

Nas has one universally accepted classic by the industry and fan's opinion with Illmatic and It Was Written being a near classic by general opinion
 
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Ibex;88969 said:
Critically acclaimed is a fancy word for saying white people liked your album. His last three albums were exactly what I said "average" they weren't great but they weren't garbage either. Compare those three albums to God's Son, Lost Tapes, or Stillmatic and you will see my point.

Uhh so if white people like the album that means its not really good? I dont understand that logic, but anyway Untitled near classic album and was the best album released in 2008. Hip Hop Is Dead was a good album which may have its faults but its not no where near being "average", if anything Streets Disciple can be considered average, with all the filler tracks on disc 2.
 
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jamacia;88959 said:
T/S is a Eminem fan and this is a undercover way of saying Em is better than Nas.

no wonder.. poor kid probably auditioned for the "stan" role in Em's video, ha..
 
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ShadyTeam;88906 said:
Those records are really good but heres the thing

Lauren Hill made If I Ruled The World dope with out here it twouldn'tas half as good with out Lauren Hill's Chorus

Quan made Just a Moment dope with out him it would have been average with out Quan't Chorus and Verse

regardless with who he collaborated with, he touched lives.

Nas is just ill all the way around son. Sure he's made a few Lp's that not everyone agrees with, but everyone goes thru that phase. He's the essense to our ears evidently. And I'm sure you could appreciate some of his music.
 
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tupacfan;89045 said:
regardless with who he collaborated with, he touched lives.

Nas is just ill all the way around son. Sure he's made a few Lp's that not everyone agrees with, but everyone goes thru that phase. He's the essense to our ears evidently. And I'm sure you could appreciate some of his music.

How can Nas be ill all round i mean he needs other people do to his Hook's for him

He can't make Club Song's

He can't make Hit's look at his Singles history and where his Singles reached in the Chart

He doesn't get personal like Eminem through Eminem's Music i know his whole life story i can't say through Nas Music i know his life story
 
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jamacia;89000 said:
Uhh so if white people like the album that means its not really good? I dont understand that logic, but anyway Untitled near classic album and was the best album released in 2008. Hip Hop Is Dead was a good album which may have its faults but its not no where near being "average", if anything Streets Disciple can be considered average, with all the filler tracks on disc 2.

Most of the time white people have no clue on how to accurately rate a hiphop album, takes this years grammy nominations for example, what a joke..Nas is a victim of his own greatness it's hard to consistently put out classic albums Nas has at least four under his belt, but you can't just be a fan and give him a pass and say "It's Nas" even if the music has declined
 
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ShadyTeam;88991 said:
Just that Eminem has 3 universally accepted over critically acclaimed Album's by the masses and the industry countless Grammy Awards for his classics and general wordwide opinion by fan's is that

The Marshall Mathers LP is regarded as one of the greatest Album's ever made

Nas has made some of the most aweful Album's like Nastradamus, Streets Disciple, Hip-Hop Is Dead, I Am etc

Nas has one universally accepted classic by the industry and fan's opinion with Illmatic and It Was Written being a near classic by general opinion

Dude .. stop comparing Nas to Em .. answer the question the T/S asked and keep it pushing.

Also, an average Nas LP is > Most rappers today's best albums

I hope you dont believe that " Men lie, women lie, numbers dont" bullshit..
 
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Ibex;89070 said:
Most of the time white people have no clue on how to accurately rate a hiphop album, takes this years grammy nominations for example, what a joke..Nas is a victim of his own greatness it's hard to consistently put out classic albums Nas has at least four under his belt, but you can't just be a fan and give him a pass and say "It's Nas" even if the music has declined

I dont think his music has declined If anything he is a more well rounded artist now than he was around the Stillmatic/God Son era. I dont think white people are clueless there are some who actually listen to the music and is well aware of the culture and what is actually good. I look at a album like Untitled which covers various topics whether its religion, politics, or various different social issues all within the album, thats something Nas couldn't have pulled off as well back in 2001 or 2002, he has a way of speaking about social issues and doing it in a way that's entertaining, and name dropping various blacks in history that have helped paved the way all throughout the album. He has def grown as an artist and has matured, and isn't stuck on making more Stillmatic type albums, although to be honest I would love another album like that, but I also understand that he is in a different phase in his life and has grown.
 
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ShadyTeam;89066 said:
How can Nas be ill all round i mean he needs other people do to his Hook's for him

He can't make Club Song's

He can't make Hit's look at his Singles history and where his Singles reached in the Chart

He doesn't get personal like Eminem through Eminem's Music i know his whole life story i can't say through Nas Music i know his life story

I guess this depends on what type of flava your ear listens too, because I like nas, i don't really care for the club bangas so it actually works out well that he ain't create one, that's saved for the birds.

As far as charts and singles and so forth, the masses ain 't really worreid about how much he sold or if he's debuting number one air play, fuck all that.. but when his shit drops, you have folks standing in line waiting to purchase his CD.

No comparsions between nas and em at all.

Half of eminem's music isn't literally great at all either.. he made songs about killing his mom, dude has homosexual tendacies fa real, and your starting to look real suspect coming off with that eminem stan. And I"m just observing yo, no judgement or pun intended. Just keepin it rock solid.
 
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How many "club bangers" does Em actually have and why is that so important?

Damn now I'm getting off topic with the question but it needs to be asked.
 
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jamacia;89177 said:
How many "club bangers" does Em actually have and why is that so important?

Damn now I'm getting off topic with the question but it needs to be asked.

Smack That which was Produced by him and features him but was Akon's Song

Shake It which also was succesful on the Chart and reached the top 10

The Real Slim Shady which according to most DJ's is massive in the club's all over Europe

Ass Like That which also reached the top 10 in the Chart
 
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tupacfan;89166 said:
I guess this depends on what type of flava your ear listens too, because I like nas, i don't really care for the club bangas so it actually works out well that he ain't create one, that's saved for the birds.

As far as charts and singles and so forth, the masses ain 't really worreid about how much he sold or if he's debuting number one air play, fuck all that.. but when his shit drops, you have folks standing in line waiting to purchase his CD.

No comparsions between nas and em at all.

Half of eminem's music isn't literally great at all either.. he made songs about killing his mom, dude has homosexual tendacies fa real, and your starting to look real suspect coming off with that eminem stan. And I"m just observing yo, no judgement or pun intended. Just keepin it rock solid.

Well what really makes me appreciate Eminem so much simply is this

Eminem will make a deep record about the most heart felt topic such as being a parent but say the message in the most Lyrical way using Multi's

Singing the Hook and making it really catchy

BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE is simply the answer

Deeepest topic that everyone relates to but Written really Lyrical and also catchy
 
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ShadyTeam;89248 said:
Smack That which was Produced by him and features him but was Akon's Song

Shake It which also was succesful on the Chart and reached the top 10

The Real Slim Shady which according to most DJ's is massive in the club's all over Europe

Ass Like That which also reached the top 10 in the Chart

You cannot be serious? Ass Like That?
 
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