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The_Jackal;9036299 said:
SuperSoaker;9036271 said:
But but but why are you guys making it seem like it's only a race between trump and Clinton? If you don't count the super delegates, double the votes from caucus states, triple the votes from lily-white college kids, Bernie is literally winning this election in a landslide!!!!!! Don't let the media influence you bernies the real voice of all people from any nationality and background!!!! Hilary secretly hates minorities!!! YES, the data shows that minorities overwhelmingly voted for her but that's easily explained, you see minorities don't really do any research they just scratch and sniff democratic, you know they can't pass up on a white woman!!!!! Bernie is the real candidate for them because he LOVES poor people and he wants to make marijuana free. Wake up sheeple!!!!

I know your being sarcastic but this is the honest truth. Every since Teddy Roosevelt Square Deal and especially FDRs New Deal, Blacks have overwhelming supported the Democrats and while the denocratic party has done right towards the community, it gives them a very high leverage.

If you understand FDR'S new deal,what issues do you have with Sanders policies
 
The_Jackal;9036299 said:
SuperSoaker;9036271 said:
But but but why are you guys making it seem like it's only a race between trump and Clinton? If you don't count the super delegates, double the votes from caucus states, triple the votes from lily-white college kids, Bernie is literally winning this election in a landslide!!!!!! Don't let the media influence you bernies the real voice of all people from any nationality and background!!!! Hilary secretly hates minorities!!! YES, the data shows that minorities overwhelmingly voted for her but that's easily explained, you see minorities don't really do any research they just scratch and sniff democratic, you know they can't pass up on a white woman!!!!! Bernie is the real candidate for them because he LOVES poor people and he wants to make marijuana free. Wake up sheeple!!!!

I know your being sarcastic but this is the honest truth. Every since Teddy Roosevelt Square Deal and especially FDRs New Deal, Blacks have overwhelming supported the Democrats and while the denocratic party has done right towards the community, it gives them a very high leverage.

I mean you can be cynical about it, but I'd like to think that they have weighed the options and went for the side they agreed with ideologically (not saying all policies helped, or didn't have unintended consequences) but sure believe the low-information narrative!
 
Abraxas ;9036353 said:
The_Jackal;9036299 said:
SuperSoaker;9036271 said:
But but but why are you guys making it seem like it's only a race between trump and Clinton? If you don't count the super delegates, double the votes from caucus states, triple the votes from lily-white college kids, Bernie is literally winning this election in a landslide!!!!!! Don't let the media influence you bernies the real voice of all people from any nationality and background!!!! Hilary secretly hates minorities!!! YES, the data shows that minorities overwhelmingly voted for her but that's easily explained, you see minorities don't really do any research they just scratch and sniff democratic, you know they can't pass up on a white woman!!!!! Bernie is the real candidate for them because he LOVES poor people and he wants to make marijuana free. Wake up sheeple!!!!

I know your being sarcastic but this is the honest truth. Every since Teddy Roosevelt Square Deal and especially FDRs New Deal, Blacks have overwhelming supported the Democrats and while the denocratic party has done right towards the community, it gives them a very high leverage.

If you understand FDR'S new deal,what issues do you have with Sanders policies

To compare FDR New Deal to Sanders policy is asinine simply because of the context of the New Deal. We had just got rid of Hoover, a president who firmly believed the free market would correct itself (which it spectacularly failed to do) and a firm hand needed to guide the unregulated market. The United States doesnt need rsise minumum wages, doesn't need to invest a trillion dollars in work programs, what it needs is to enforce the laws on book(especially monopoly laws) amd ultimately stop giving tax breaks to xorporations who outsource work to third world countries to maximize profits. Insteas of investing 1 trillion into jobs programs, why not invest it infrastructure?

SuperSoaker;9036370 said:
The_Jackal;9036299 said:
SuperSoaker;9036271 said:
But but but why are you guys making it seem like it's only a race between trump and Clinton? If you don't count the super delegates, double the votes from caucus states, triple the votes from lily-white college kids, Bernie is literally winning this election in a landslide!!!!!! Don't let the media influence you bernies the real voice of all people from any nationality and background!!!! Hilary secretly hates minorities!!! YES, the data shows that minorities overwhelmingly voted for her but that's easily explained, you see minorities don't really do any research they just scratch and sniff democratic, you know they can't pass up on a white woman!!!!! Bernie is the real candidate for them because he LOVES poor people and he wants to make marijuana free. Wake up sheeple!!!!

I know your being sarcastic but this is the honest truth. Every since Teddy Roosevelt Square Deal and especially FDRs New Deal, Blacks have overwhelming supported the Democrats and while the denocratic party has done right towards the community, it gives them a very high leverage.

I mean you can be cynical about it, but I'd like to think that they have weighed the options and went for the side they agreed with ideologically (not saying all policies helped, or didn't have unintended consequences) but sure believe the low-information narrative! [/quote]

By all means don't think im only speaking on black voters, im speaking on all voters regardless of ethnicity. Honestly speaking how often do you in real life encounter an earnest, passionate discussion about politics?
 
The_Jackal;9036238 said:
JJ_Evans;9036210 said:
The_Jackal;9036197 said:
JJ_Evans;9036151 said:
The_Jackal;9036056 said:
JJ_Evans;9036003 said:
The_Jackal;9035762 said:
tupacfan12;9035361 said:
Yes while the 1994 crime bill was a black mark let's not forget Bernie Sanders voted FOR it as well, and unemployment for blacks were in record lows and black home ownership and businesses were on the rise as well, and let's not forget she tried to push for universal health care in 1993 which got shot down in congress by big money interests. So while Hillary Clinton was not perfect, let's not be hyperbolic and forget all the good things that happened under the Clinton administration.

Nobody is being hyperbolic in any matter, just starting the fact that Hilary is some great friend or ambassador to the black community is wrong.

Show me where I wrote that Hillary is an "ambassador to the black community".

You cats are simply being exposed in this thread.

Did I say you did or are you just making blind assumtions? Exposed lol ok 5 grams of crack has a mandatory sentence of 5 years while at the same time cocaine requires 500 grams, the only person being exposed are those like you who think that somehow because kkk openly support Trump Hilary is better. Who the fuck do you think runs these private prison and push for laws to force blacks into indentured servitude, but go ahead and blindly support that democratic party over the GOP.

Like I said Hilary is the only viablw canadidte to vote for but its not because she is qualified, its the lack of qualification from Bernie and the unabashed ignirance from Trump that makes her the best choice.

I'm not gonna be petty and point out your spelling. That would be petty.

What I will do is.................

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Im posting on my phone so I really could give a fuck about grammar, especially on a hiphop forum. On the other hand I'm glad you show your igorance to the political scene and fall for the same photoshoot bullshit niggas been falling for since forever.

Only one candidate has gained over 150,000$ dollars from prison lobbyists, and spolier it wasn't Trump. So go ahead and think somehow Hilary is better while indentured servitude is brought back under the facade of "justice" or "upholding the law." Those pictures surely explain Hilary ENDORSING laws that are quite plainly racist. Again I'm not knocking you for voting for Hilary because I will be too, I just understand as far as the black community goes the Clintons and the war on drugs (which they continued and raised to another level) has actively done more harm to the black community then Trump has.

Buddy, I'm voting for anyone that will beat Donald Trump. I could care less if it's Hillary or Bernie.

Ok that's cool, but to state that anyone who doesn't vote for Hilary(since I know alot of people are saying fuck both the Dems and GOP and voting for a third party like @janklow) or people who are critical somehow are Republicans or are being exposed in a way for being critical of Hilary is wrong. It's unfortunate, but America is held hostage by the two major parties, and there needs to be real political reform.

I explained the third party situation several pages back. My problem with it is that NO third party candidate will be winning the presidency in November, therefore it's a wasted vote that helps Trump because it's one less vote for his true opponent Hillary Clinton.

Some of the people crying for a third party are being disingenuous like the tea party crowd did during Obama's two terms. They trashed the Democrats and pretended to want third party candidates, but they were really just racist ass republicans the entire time.

I don't blindly follow anyone. I'm educated on the issues and take the process seriously. I vote for the candidate that hurts my children's future the least and I'm confident that Hillary Clinton is by far a better choice than Donald Trump, thus I'm not wasting my vote on a third party.....I'm voting for the Democrat which happens to be Hillary.
 
The_Jackal;9036409 said:
Abraxas ;9036353 said:
The_Jackal;9036299 said:
SuperSoaker;9036271 said:
But but but why are you guys making it seem like it's only a race between trump and Clinton? If you don't count the super delegates, double the votes from caucus states, triple the votes from lily-white college kids, Bernie is literally winning this election in a landslide!!!!!! Don't let the media influence you bernies the real voice of all people from any nationality and background!!!! Hilary secretly hates minorities!!! YES, the data shows that minorities overwhelmingly voted for her but that's easily explained, you see minorities don't really do any research they just scratch and sniff democratic, you know they can't pass up on a white woman!!!!! Bernie is the real candidate for them because he LOVES poor people and he wants to make marijuana free. Wake up sheeple!!!!

I know your being sarcastic but this is the honest truth. Every since Teddy Roosevelt Square Deal and especially FDRs New Deal, Blacks have overwhelming supported the Democrats and while the denocratic party has done right towards the community, it gives them a very high leverage.

If you understand FDR'S new deal,what issues do you have with Sanders policies

To compare FDR New Deal to Sanders policy is asinine simply because of the context of the New Deal. We had just got rid of Hoover, a president who firmly believed the free market would correct itself (which it spectacularly failed to do) and a firm hand needed to guide the unregulated market. The United States doesnt need rsise minumum wages, doesn't need to invest a trillion dollars in work programs, what it needs is to enforce the laws on book(especially monopoly laws) amd ultimately stop giving tax breaks to xorporations who outsource work to third world countries to maximize profits. Insteas of investing 1 trillion into jobs programs, why not invest it infrastructure?

SuperSoaker;9036370 said:
The_Jackal;9036299 said:
SuperSoaker;9036271 said:
But but but why are you guys making it seem like it's only a race between trump and Clinton? If you don't count the super delegates, double the votes from caucus states, triple the votes from lily-white college kids, Bernie is literally winning this election in a landslide!!!!!! Don't let the media influence you bernies the real voice of all people from any nationality and background!!!! Hilary secretly hates minorities!!! YES, the data shows that minorities overwhelmingly voted for her but that's easily explained, you see minorities don't really do any research they just scratch and sniff democratic, you know they can't pass up on a white woman!!!!! Bernie is the real candidate for them because he LOVES poor people and he wants to make marijuana free. Wake up sheeple!!!!

I know your being sarcastic but this is the honest truth. Every since Teddy Roosevelt Square Deal and especially FDRs New Deal, Blacks have overwhelming supported the Democrats and while the denocratic party has done right towards the community, it gives them a very high leverage.

I mean you can be cynical about it, but I'd like to think that they have weighed the options and went for the side they agreed with ideologically (not saying all policies helped, or didn't have unintended consequences) but sure believe the low-information narrative! [/quote]

By all means don't think im only speaking on black voters, im speaking on all voters regardless of ethnicity. Honestly speaking how often do you in real life encounter an earnest, passionate discussion about politics?

Bruh. His trillion dollar job program IS building infrastructure. It's right there on his website. You think it's going to rebuild itself or some shit? Lol.

Of the 3 candidates, whom do you believe would most feasibly accomplish closing those loop holes? The 2 that benefits directly from it, or the one who has fought against it, from the inception of the laws that made it possible such as the Panama free trade agreement?

 
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Just checked my mail in ballot. Received a Non-partisan Ballot despite stating I was Democrat on my postal paperwork AND registering on the California website. This is BS.
 
Bernie gonna get washed. This is a fox news debate. Fox don't fuck with democrats and the Republicans are already getting behind Trump. He's also not winning, so this is pointless. He's just going to help Trump out who only shares his populism and absolutely nothing else.
 
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The_Jackal;9034062 said:
JJ_Evans;9033763 said:
janklow;9033674 said:
JJ_Evans;9031584 said:
All of you undercover white republicans on this black hip hop site disgust me.
hell of an argument. but keep voting for the white establishment while bitching about "undercover white Republicans"

nothing like a vote not earned to teach Clinton to respect voters!

You can't fool me. You're either an undercover white republican or a very ignorant black person. I'm not gonna allow you to confuse these young brothers and sisters with your anti-Hillary bullshit.

Every single Ku Klux klan chapter and every white nationalist organization is backing Donald Trump. He's the enemy of black people, not Hillary Clinton.

LOL and Hilary is the friend of Black people?

Hilary is the same Hilary that cheered her husband expanding mandatory minumum sentencing, (which can easily and arguably be seen as racist) the same Hilary that unabashedly panders to literally every demographic she can, and the same Hilary that honestly comes off very weak especially for being a world leader ( anyone remember her refusing to debate Bernie a few months ago because he was "to mean.")

Trump isn't any better but don't throw up a facade the Hilary cares about anyone but herself.

your vote is the only thing she want after that she'll turn her back on you and act like she don't know u

 
JJ_Evans;9033763 said:
Every single Ku Klux klan chapter and every white nationalist organization is backing Donald Trump. He's the enemy of black people, not Hillary Clinton.
find the post where i said someone should vote for Donald Trump, or that i will.

i'll wait right here for you to apologize for that bullshit characterization

anyway, like i said, you're supporting the establishment and teaching it it doesn't have to do shit to earn your vote. but whatever, why address criticism when you can call people undercover white Republicans?

JJ_Evans;9036524 said:
I explained the third party situation several pages back. My problem with it is that NO third party candidate will be winning the presidency in November, therefore it's a wasted vote that helps Trump because it's one less vote for his true opponent Hillary Clinton.
and yet your response to people telling you why they're voting third party is to call them secret white Republicans? what a substantive argument!
 
Stiff;9036029 said:
Ain't nobody being exposed bra...Hillary clinton is just wack as fuck with a trash record towards the Black community and she's completely owned by wall street firms...nobody Black is obligated to vote for her.
turns out the "but but but TRUMP" response is actually sometimes "but but but TRUMP, and you're white!!"

The_Jackal;9036238 said:
Ok that's cool, but to state that anyone who doesn't vote for Hilary(since I know alot of people are saying fuck both the Dems and GOP and voting for a third party like @janklow)
i know, i know, it's not like some of us have been consistent in our objection to Hillary and Trump alike or anything like that.
 
Mastery;9041991 said:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/27/politics/trump-says-he-will-not-debate-sanders/index.html

Trump backtracking, will not debate Sanders lol

Trump out here on his Yasmin Bey shit, when Lupe called him out. He don't want them Bernie bars.
 

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