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Ben is a great actor, Liam is trash, but Chris is dope, he carried that racecar movie. He was awesome in The 2nd Thor and carries a lot of Downey-less scenes in Avengers. Thor solos have abandoned the darkness of the nine realms, but he has been heavily advocating for more combat.
 
Thors movies are weak due to the writing team and too comedic a tone. Also they have taken out a lot of the fantasy and combat elements of a thor comic.
 
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Affleck was dope in Argo too. And it was a great movie I thought. Written by Terrio who is doing bvs and justice league.

Glad they redid goyer script.
 
Lou_Cypher;8856312 said:
Affleck was dope in Argo too. And it was a great movie I thought. Written by Terrio who is doing bvs and justice league.

Glad they redid goyer script.

Affleck and Kevin Smith work great together so Affleck, Terrio and Smith is gonna be GOAT. He's gonna steal the show.
 
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last time i checked scriptwriters and directors command the story not the actors.

But his point was that the actors choose the roles.

Also, some actors with enough pull can change the script.

they are not there yet , they dont have the pull yet and are you gonna deny working with Michael Mann , Ron Howard or Kenneth Baranaugh if they offer you a script?

Ben Affleck, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise and Matt Damon have a skill for turning scripts into gold simply off dialogue though.

Robert Downey Jr. has the same skill. I don't see Chris and Liam ever getting there.

When has Tom Cruise turned anything to gold based off dialogue alone?

Watch The Firm, Collateral and A Few Good Men.

But those were good movies all around though. He didn't make or break any of them. Hell, the most memorable lines from A Few Good Men weren't even delivered by Cruise.
 
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pissedoffnobody;8854404 said:
The Lonious Monk;8854401 said:
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fortyacres;8853991 said:
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fortyacres;8852905 said:
last time i checked scriptwriters and directors command the story not the actors.

But his point was that the actors choose the roles.

Also, some actors with enough pull can change the script.

they are not there yet , they dont have the pull yet and are you gonna deny working with Michael Mann , Ron Howard or Kenneth Baranaugh if they offer you a script?

Ben Affleck, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise and Matt Damon have a skill for turning scripts into gold simply off dialogue though.

Robert Downey Jr. has the same skill. I don't see Chris and Liam ever getting there.

When has Tom Cruise turned anything to gold based off dialogue alone?

Watch The Firm, Collateral and A Few Good Men.

But those were good movies all around though. He didn't make or break any of them. Hell, the most memorable lines from A Few Good Men weren't even delivered by Cruise.

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This is such a stupid opinion based on ignoring so much it is baseless. He was the fucking star of The Firm. Vincent in Collateral doesn't make the movie? So you think Jamie Foxx was the more interesting and charismatic character? "Well, Jack Nicholson's lines are more famous!" That's a two hander performance where both actors were playing off their dynamic chemistry, you think Pauly Shore could have helped draw that performance out of Jack Nicholson?

You wanted movies where Tom Cruise made the dialogue work off the strength of his performances and character work, you were given many and now apparently it's about quotables rather than actual fucking performances. It's a movie role, not a fucking guest verse on a street cypher. Next you'll be saying Die Hard should have won an Oscar instead of My Left Foot because you can remember "Yippee ki-yay motherfucker!" but can't remember any quotables by Daniel Day Lewis. This is such specious reductive reasoning that is excepting EVERYTHING else an actor does aside from reading the cool shit someone else wrote.

Nobody is saying Cruise didn't do his thing, but it's a stretch to say his dialogue made any of those movies. The claim wasn't just that Cruise is a good actor. The claim was that Cruise's dialogue carries movies. I don't think any if those movies are good examples of that since they were all around good movies.

Iron Man was a good movie. RdJ's acting made it a classic. I don't think I've seen Cruise carry a movie in that way. Action yes, but not pure persona and delivery.
 
BangEm_Bart ;8859951 said:
Cruise dialogue did carry the movie. He brings in money.

If ya'll say so. That's your opinion, and you're free to it. Like I said, Cruise is a good actor, no doubt, but he's never been that dude that delivers lines in a way that just blows me away.

 
tom cruise picks some of the best movies and is a great actor imo

all that scientology stuff is wacc, but i watched inside the actors studio with tom cruise and this guy really loves that acting ish
 
CracceR;8861055 said:
tom cruise picks some of the best movies and is a great actor imo

all that scientology stuff is wacc, but i watched inside the actors studio with tom cruise and this guy really loves that acting ish

Cause that scientology shit got him brainwashed acting is all he knows he gotta make them.money smh
 
yea for me there is not really a tony stark after rdj at this point, maybe he can still have small cameos and they just focus on the other characters
 

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