The official Gun/Firearm discussion/appreciation thread

[janklow]

so this only took 5.5 months to make happen. thanks, ATF!

 

[blakfyahking]

5.5 months is great

ironically I was talking to a guy earlier today who said he got his tax stamp for an SBR in 3 months......I was shocked

I plan on purchasing a couple of suppressors later this year and I'm not too encouraged by the entire process

meanwhile I'm still building a couple of rifles and wondering is it even worth the hassle of going through the whole process just to have a SBR........at least with the suppressors it would be worth it IMO

 

[janklow]

5.5 months is great

sad that this is true, right?

i have a form 4 SBR going, 3 more form 1 SBRs going and 2 suppressors going (wanted to get it all on the trust) ... not too excited about the process either but i don't expect to see any of this stuff any time soon.

meanwhile I'm still building a couple of rifles and wondering is it even worth the hassle of going through the whole process just to have a SBR........at least with the suppressors it would be worth it IMO

honestly, it depends on how you like to shoot. it's worth it to me to have them to play with and do shorter-range shooting with. but i am kind of doing it to do it. i am actually more excited for the suppressors, TBH.

 

[Will Munny]

No gun news for me lately other than I sold my Shield 40 for $325, could have maybe gotten more but I sold it to a buddy. I just didn't like how snappy the 40 was and I feel like for a carry pistol a 9mm should do the job.

and I put Magpul MBUS sights on my AR, I got the cheapest ones and those fuckers are not cheap. For some reason tho putting back up sights on my AR reduces my anxiety, like I feel like its a complete rifle at this point, until I go on the surefire website and start looking at lights.

 

[King Erauno]

aye so i got in trouble a couple months back. DUI but had my gun on me.. in a state that doesnt honor my georgia gun permit. can they take it away? ( after court n shit) they said i might have to forfeit my permit but i havent heard anything concrete. anybody shed some light on this?

cops did take my gun but i got it back.

 

[janklow]

aye so i got in trouble a couple months back. DUI but had my gun on me.. in a state that doesnt honor my georgia gun permit. can they take it away? ( after court n shit) they said i might have to forfeit my permit but i havent heard anything concrete. anybody shed some light on this?

honestly, it's all about your local laws for the permit and i personally wouldn't guess about GA's laws on this score. but i come from a state where the carry laws are NOT generous.

 

[janklow]

No gun news for me lately other than I sold my Shield 40 for $325, could have maybe gotten more but I sold it to a buddy. I just didn't like how snappy the 40 was and I feel like for a carry pistol a 9mm should do the job.

modern 9mm kinda sorta negates the need for .40. honestly, the major advantage of the latter seems to be "easier to find it during rushes on ammo."

and I put Magpul MBUS sights on my AR, I got the cheapest ones and those fuckers are not cheap.

if it makes you feel better, i have Magpul MBUS Pros on my AUG and that SBR are there has KAC flip sights and i legitimately feel like a crazy person for paying for THOSE. but... they're really nice. and:

For some reason tho putting back up sights on my AR reduces my anxiety, like I feel like its a complete rifle at this point, until I go on the surefire website and start looking at lights.

yeah, i like to have iron sights on my rifles, so i hear that.

 

[Will Munny]

What do you think the best home defense loads are for a .223? I keep one mag handy filled with some cheap varmint tipped 50 gr bullets. Probably not the best but I would imagine that would be far less likely to over penetrate than a FMJ. Not that my AR would be the first thing I'd grab in the event of a break in anyways.

 

[janklow]

What do you think the best home defense loads are for a .223? I keep one mag handy filled with some cheap varmint tipped 50 gr bullets. Probably not the best but I would imagine that would be far less likely to over penetrate than a FMJ. Not that my AR would be the first thing I'd grab in the event of a break in anyways.

disclaimer: my default home-defense gun is a pistol. if i wanted to pick up a rifle, though, i would use an AR (or maybe a SIG P556, which is kind of my current "i need the most dramatic firearm at hand right now" gun), so if i was going to answer this question with ammo i currently have? Federal JSP Tactical (LE223T1). it's a really good round BUT it's also the ammo that i have that i got an exceptional price on.

as for what i would buy if i was buying HD AR rounds? not knowing the chamber of your AR, that Federal JSP (55 or 62 grain, whichever), Federal V-Shok (55 grain, can do it with TSX bullets), Speer Gold Dots (64 grain). but i also use Federal or Speer for my HD rounds generally (Federal for .380, 9mm, .45; Speer for .40) and i am brand loyal.

 

[blakfyahking]

No gun news for me lately other than I sold my Shield 40 for $325, could have maybe gotten more but I sold it to a buddy. I just didn't like how snappy the 40 was and I feel like for a carry pistol a 9mm should do the job.

and I put Magpul MBUS sights on my AR, I got the cheapest ones and those fuckers are not cheap. For some reason tho putting back up sights on my AR reduces my anxiety, like I feel like its a complete rifle at this point, until I go on the surefire website and start looking at lights.

cosign @ the bolded......I got a couple of shields and I wonder why in the world S&W thought it would be a good idea to make a pistol that small in .40 cal.........last time I went to the gun shop they even had a shield in .45.......seems like overkill to me to think u need such a large caliber to come out of such a small pistol

ironically I've become more of a 9mm fan again because of the shield.......it has worked its way into being my EDC/backup carry pistol

I don't really do the backup carry as much, its just I still tend to favor my Walter PPS so sometimes I have both........that's the only small .40 I really enjoy shooting these days

 

[blakfyahking]

aye so i got in trouble a couple months back. DUI but had my gun on me.. in a state that doesnt honor my georgia gun permit. can they take it away? ( after court n shit) they said i might have to forfeit my permit but i havent heard anything concrete. anybody shed some light on this?

cops did take my gun but i got it back.

if u talking about a CCW permit u can pretty much count on losing it........in my state, DUIs are the leading reason cats lose their CCWs

once that shit hits ur license wit those points u should be expecting to get a letter in the mail from ur sheriff

if somehow they don't catch it I'd just play dumb and hold on to my CCW as long as possible.....expect that to come back up if u have to renew it tho

 

[blakfyahking]

What do you think the best home defense loads are for a .223? I keep one mag handy filled with some cheap varmint tipped 50 gr bullets. Probably not the best but I would imagine that would be far less likely to over penetrate than a FMJ. Not that my AR would be the first thing I'd grab in the event of a break in anyways.

50gr varmint bullets are perfect in .223 for HD, especially the American/Federal brand........the ballistic performance is great, I actually keep a 40 rd magazine on hand for home defense.......another alternative is .223 hollow point bullets......both options are pretty cheap

tho if u are willing to spend a bit more, Hornady TAP ammo has shown to be pretty good as well........most of the military/LE folks I've worked with have nothing but good things to say.........and I've personally seen the performance of Hornady TAP in shoothouses........but like I said before, pretty expensive compared to other off the shelf ammo

Speer is def pretty good for handgun ammo, however I'm personally running Hornady critical duty in all of my defensive pistols in .380/9mm/40

Sig Sauer has been manufacturing some good ammo lately as well for the price in comparison to other expensive ammo like Hornady

anyways the AR is my preferred HD weapon just because when considering all factors the AR provides me the most advantages since I'm so familiar with using it......besides the average home invader generally isn't prepared to deal with a homeowner who is effectively using a rifle with a 40 rd magazine

 

[Will Munny]

That's true. If you know how to use an AR even just a little you can generally count on being much better armed than a home invader. My fear is with using an AR is when the law looks at it, and sees you have this weapon so designed to kill, and then you end up killing with it... I feel like they are gonna be looking reaaaaaally hard if you were in the right or not. That's a whole nother topic.

But yeah I have the American Eagle tipped varmint rounds. I also have a grip of Fiocchis with the Hornady Vmax bullets.

 

[janklow]

anyways the AR is my preferred HD weapon just because when considering all factors the AR provides me the most advantages since I'm so familiar with using it......besides the average home invader generally isn't prepared to deal with a homeowner who is effectively using a rifle with a 40 rd magazine

these are all good points but the main one is "since I'm so familiar with using it"

My fear is with using an AR is when the law looks at it, and sees you have this weapon so designed to kill, and then you end up killing with it... I feel like they are gonna be looking reaaaaaally hard if you were in the right or not.

my other concern is "police taking a gun i really like away for years and possibly 'accidentally' destroying it."

time to shoot home invaders with a Glock 19 in honor of me not liking Glocks

 

[Will Munny]

I had a stolen firearm nearly get destroyed by the police but by some stroke of luck they decided to run the serial number... After two years of sitting in an evidence locker.

 

[janklow]

I had a stolen firearm nearly get destroyed by the police but by some stroke of luck they decided to run the serial number... After two years of sitting in an evidence locker.

depends on the jurisdiction, i imagine; out here i believe it's possible to get them back but i wouldn't count on it

guns i can replace without shedding a tear for HD for me

 

[blakfyahking]

That's true. If you know how to use an AR even just a little you can generally count on being much better armed than a home invader. My fear is with using an AR is when the law looks at it, and sees you have this weapon so designed to kill, and then you end up killing with it... I feel like they are gonna be looking reaaaaaally hard if you were in the right or not. That's a whole nother topic.

But yeah I have the American Eagle tipped varmint rounds. I also have a grip of Fiocchis with the Hornady Vmax bullets.

but the bolded would apply to any firearm wouldn't it? haha

I see what u are getting at tho...........but I figure if Joe Biden can publicly cosign using a shotgun for HD, then u could have a hard time explaining how a 12 gauge round can be less messy than using a basically .22 caliber bullet in court

a slug could really fuck a human body up, and buckshot is even worse and could ricochet........I would think looking at the terminal effects of a .223 would look wayyy better in pictures vs. if I killed an intruder with a shotgun

but of course to gun control minded folks obviously it would be considered to be more wrong for me to use such an evil weapon, even tho it shoots a smaller bullet and may leave a possibly more humane wound SMH

 

[janklow]

but of course to gun control minded folks obviously it would be considered to be more wrong for me to use such an evil weapon, even tho it shoots a smaller bullet and may leave a possibly more humane wound SMH

at this point, the person is not using logic and it's really just about "how evil does the gun look" and "can we make an example of this guy"

 

[Will Munny]

That's true. If you know how to use an AR even just a little you can generally count on being much better armed than a home invader. My fear is with using an AR is when the law looks at it, and sees you have this weapon so designed to kill, and then you end up killing with it... I feel like they are gonna be looking reaaaaaally hard if you were in the right or not. That's a whole nother topic.

But yeah I have the American Eagle tipped varmint rounds. I also have a grip of Fiocchis with the Hornady Vmax bullets.

but the bolded would apply to any firearm wouldn't it? haha

I see what u are getting at tho...........but I figure if Joe Biden can publicly cosign using a shotgun for HD, then u could have a hard time explaining how a 12 gauge round can be less messy than using a basically .22 caliber bullet in court

a slug could really fuck a human body up, and buckshot is even worse and could ricochet........I would think looking at the terminal effects of a .223 would look wayyy better in pictures vs. if I killed an intruder with a shotgun

but of course to gun control minded folks obviously it would be considered to be more wrong for me to use such an evil weapon, even tho it shoots a smaller bullet and may leave a possibly more humane wound SMH

yah its stupid because obviously every gun is designed to kill.

and 12 gauges are devastating. If you put a slug on someone just about anywhere, theres a good chance its a wrap. The reactions of the deer I've shot with them at close range with slugs are burned into my mind.

 

[janklow]

...and i don't have pictures yet because i don't have the build completed, but stamp #2 has been approved.

yah its stupid because obviously every gun is designed to kill.

not just that, but you're telling me that intent no longer matters because my gun looks wicked? FOH