The Official Eminem Discussion Thread

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Capo1;859049 said:
White people clown on rappers like gucci mane, but also get some satisfaction out of him embodying almost every black stereotype in the book. He does the work for us...
Black people clown on rappers like Emenim but also get some satisfaction out of him embodying almost every white stereotype in the book. The white-trash, mother-hating, pill-popping, incest-homosexual, serial-killing, bestiality-pedophilia, wigger-wannabee...he represents.
 
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Capo1;859049 said:
White people clown on rappers like gucci mane, but also get some satisfaction out of him embodying almost every black stereotype in the book. He does the work for us...

So, do blacks and more so, then any white. But Gucci is popular and whites know that if, it's popular some other white has made it so, so they want in too. So, here's to thinking that white broads who think that gucci shit is cool aint as noodle brained as black broads. And White dudes aint as corny as, Black dudes who listen to that junk.
 
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rapmastermind;859069 said:
Another Issue in this debate is sometimes in Defense of Eminem people will say "Atleast Eminem doesn't rap about cars, materialistic things and busting his guns" as if the other subject matter he raps about is any better? Many people complain that they were tried of him rapping about Killing his mom, his daugther and all the wild crazy stuff he raps about it. You can't diss rappers for their subject matter while praising Eminem for his. Eminem raps about murder and rape just as much as rappers rap about busting their guns. That's the double standard Eminem gets.

But eminem raps about much more than killing his mom...you're better than that.
 
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rapmastermind;859069 said:
Another Issue in this debate is sometimes in Defense of Eminem people will say "Atleast Eminem doesn't rap about cars, materialistic things and busting his guns" as if the other subject matter he raps about is any better? Many people complain that they were tried of him rapping about Killing his mom, his daugther and all the wild crazy stuff he raps about it. You can't diss rappers for their subject matter while praising Eminem for his. Eminem raps about murder and rape just as much as rappers rap about busting their guns. That's the double standard Eminem gets.

I think People clown on rappers for busting their guns/drugs etc, b/c that's what the majority of the game raps about. If it was only a couple doing it, i dont think it'd catch as much backlash
 
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Look at all the black people noddin their head and singing along to eminem's words

[video=youtube;XHqqNbO400I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHqqNbO400I[/video]
 
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VIBE86;859071 said:
Dude lol how can I explain it better?

Okay.

I'll try again.

Vanilla Ice = high selling white rapper. He didn't have mic skills at all. He had no lyricism. Word play. Good content. Anything that fans could really relate it besides he was white. He was built upon an image to sell his whiteness to the hip hop community and grasp white fans, which it worked. He has no credible album to cement him as a good artist at all.

Eminem = highest selling white rapper, not only due to the fact he's white. Sure, white played the curb appeal but he was the 1st white rapper we ALL heard and were blown away. He has his lyricism, ability, flow, content, relations to back up himself as a white rapper. He has more than WHITE, he has ABILITY as a rapper. No one thought that white people could REALLY rap upon levels such as prime Nas, Jay-Z, Biggie, Black Thought, Common etc. No one thought that, hell, the whole "white men can't jump" can be labeled.

The fact that he has the ability as a lyricist and content that is real (TES/Recovery) that people CAN relate to is how he can back himself as an artist. He isn't a JOKE in hip hop like other white rappers who aren't as successful. Eminem BACKS UP being a RAPPER by being a DOPE EMCEE.

What the hell don't you get about what I'm saying man?

Shhhh dont actually try and keep people on the thread topic!!! What the hell are you thinking!!?>? lol

the two with Rap in their names wont acknowldege tha actual thread topic, should Em's sales be taken seriously. The answer is simply yes and if you're insinuating that he has no talent on the mic you're insane
 
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rapmastermind;859069 said:
Another Issue in this debate is sometimes in Defense of Eminem people will say "Atleast Eminem doesn't rap about cars, materialistic things and busting his guns" as if the other subject matter he raps about is any better? Many people complain that they were tried of him rapping about Killing his mom, his daugther and all the wild crazy stuff he raps about it. You can't diss rappers for their subject matter while praising Eminem for his. Eminem raps about murder and rape just as much as rappers rap about busting their guns. That's the double standard Eminem gets.

The thing is.. Many mainstream black rappers are generic in thier content.. "mom killing and daughter" lyrics.. that's eminem.. "gun bursting, rims, hoes, bling" thats almost everybody else..

And btw.. Em has a slim shady persona that does that horror rap thingy.. He does have his Sing for the moments, his loose yourself, his till I collapse, his Mosh as well..

Judge Em by his whole album not using 1 or 2 songs off an album
 
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Only white people listen to eminem....

[video=youtube;YQWJJAknTWY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQWJJAknTWY[/video]
 
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Capo1;859098 said:
Look at all the black people noddin their head and singing along to eminem's words

[video=youtube;XHqqNbO400I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHqqNbO400I[/video]

Em is a POP culture Icon. It's to be expected.
 
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rapmastermind;859069 said:
Another Issue in this debate is sometimes in Defense of Eminem people will say "Atleast Eminem doesn't rap about cars, materialistic things and busting his guns" as if the other subject matter he raps about is any better? Many people complain that they were tried of him rapping about Killing his mom, his daugther and all the wild crazy stuff he raps about it. You can't diss rappers for their subject matter while praising Eminem for his. Eminem raps about murder and rape just as much as rappers rap about busting their guns. That's the double standard Eminem gets.
Hypocrites, as if gun-bussin' is worse than the serial-killier shit on 3. a.m., or putting your daughters voice on a song about murdering her own mother.
No Black rapper could have another man straddle his face on live television and still be taken seriously.

Could you imagine what would happen to Ludacris career if he dressed in drag in his next video??

Its a double-standard they hate to admit. If he says his album sucks they say it was a classic If he says "I woulda sold half" they say race has nothing to do with it.

Its obvious why he made the song Stan he knows firsthand the type of psycho fanbase he has..look at the Capo1's and the Dretox's...name another rapper that has fans like them.
 
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samkay12;859109 said:
The thing is.. Many mainstream black rappers are generic in thier content.. "mom killing and daughter" lyrics.. that's eminem.. "gun bursting, rims, hoes, bling" thats almost everybody else..

And btw.. Em has a slim shady persona that does that horror rap thingy.. He does have his Sing for the moments, his loose yourself, his till I collapse, his Mosh as well..

Judge Em by his whole album not using 1 or 2 songs off an album

why don't people just listen to recovery...you'll see em's diverse subject matter. IMO that embodies slim's range in content.
 
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hrap-120;859130 said:
What other rapper has fans like Capo1 & Dretox...somebody answer this question.

what other poster wears an abercrombie button down, with a bullet proof vest and a doo-rag, and takes photo's of themselves with their sisters picture phone?
 
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Mvpbrodie93;859112 said:
Ok... I just think mos deserved the award. I knew em was going to win anyway

That would be obvious as these awards are based off of sales, and popularity. Even when the true Legends of Hip Hop were putting out albums (Rakim, Kane, KRS, PE) they weren't taken home grammy's.
 
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hrap-120;859119 said:
Hypocrites, as if gun-bussin' is worse than the serial-killier shit on 3. a.m., or putting your daughters voice on a song about murdering her own mother.

No Black rapper could have another man straddle his face on live television and still be taken seriously.

Could you imagine what would happen to Ludacris career if he dressed in drag in his next video??

Its a double-standard they hate to admit. If he says his album sucks they say it was a classic If he says "I woulda sold half" they say race has nothing to do with it.

This is all bullshit

and you H Rap are the onese that put that standard on if you can't take a rapper sersiouly. If Luda did that, i'd have no problem with it b/c i know it's for entertainment value. So only point that finger at yourself.

Not even going to get into the comparison of 3am verses to the 100's of rappers that glorify carrying guns
 
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Kwan Dai;859142 said:
That would be obvious as these awards are based off of sales, and popularity. Even when the true Legends of Hip Hop were putting out albums (Rakim, Kane, KRS, PE) they weren't taken home grammy's.

Mos Def should not have one a grammy for that album, honestly that was one of the biggest let down albums of the year.
 
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Capo1;859135 said:
what other poster wears an abercrombie button down, with a bullet proof vest and a doo-rag, and takes photo's of themselves with their sisters picture phone?
But you failed to answer the question. U jealous??
 
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