The Official Eminem Discussion Thread

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hrap-120;858673 said:
DaPrinciplez, there is no anger in here Gee757 is sound asleep with his machete.

There are threads in the Reason that go at Biggie harder than this
There are Nas-Lost threads in the Reason with less normality than this
there are JayZ threads attacking everything from his lips, to his, scarves, to his Illuminati connections...

^^^so are people mad at them???

The only mad people I see are the ones making disparaging remarks about African Americans and corny jokes while Rapmastermind is demolishing them with scholarship, statistics and sound logic.

If you find humor in this topic you should study Culture Banditry as a whole, start with Little Richard. Im sure you will find his story hilarious

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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ambiguous1;858688 said:
still never said the album was trash

He didn't you're right, I explain my thought on it but it's lost in pages and pages. This thread went nuts...
 
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Kwan Dai;858686 said:
Not at all. Your version is, he's white so, he's better. It's only natural for whites to do this. You have done so, through out the History of Black Music. It's nothing new.

So if someone thinks eminem is one of the best out, it's only cause he's white?
 
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hrap-120;858673 said:
DaPrinciplez, there is no anger in here Gee757 is sound asleep with his machete.

There are threads in the Reason that go at Biggie harder than this
There are Nas-Lost threads in the Reason with less normality than this
there are JayZ threads attacking everything from his lips, to his, scarves, to his Illuminati connections...

^^^so are people mad at them???


Yes, they are hating them. Bitch niggas like to hate on anyone who is more successful than them. So they talk shit about the greats because they ain't shit compared to them and never will be. Jigga gets hate from this illuminati bullshit because he is rock solid and has no Ls. Eminem gets hate from this race bullshit because he is also rock solid with no Ls. NaS gets hate because he has Ls. Reguardless its all hatred, and yes blacks are mad at em for selling alot and receiving critical acclaim he is due.
It burns the hatin bitch niggas soul that not only is he successful and came from nothing (always warrants hate) but he also white. Which adds an extra layer of pain in the bitch niggas mind. It hurts there feelings and your in that group.
 
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Ermm..

Should Eminem's sales be taken seriously?? Maybe not.
Is eminem nice on the mic?? Definately..
Does his skin color help his sales?? Yes
Is he the greatest ever?? Maybe not but he definately comes close. Easily top 10.

Why R u guys discrediting his numbers because of the demographics of his audience???
SSLP, MMLP & Eminem Show are top notch albums. MMLP is his best work but the Eminem show is just a solid album on its own.. It was a more mature Eminem album that addressed a whole lot of issues.

Many people discredit Em cos they only listen to his singles. have u heard Stan, The way I am, If i get locked up tonight, Loose yourself, Toy Soldiers, Sing for the moment.
Even the Kim song from MMLP is a masterpiece. No one complains about horror films do they??

Encore had some good songs and some clowning songs.
Relapse had top notch technically competent lyrics but the accent didn't go down with many Em fans. Even many his fans/stans complained about it so its not like they just accept any fart he releases.

Lets face it.. Many black Rappers are redundant. Same ol things they rap about and the guys who are actually nice don't get enough publicity.
We judge based on what we see.. No one would say some underground dude that no one has heard about is the greatest would they??

And btw.. Tupac has sold over 75million albums (& hes black by the way). Should we take those sales seriously???
 
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Yungsta;858660 said:
That's retarded.... We don't double black artists record sales because they aren't white. How is this even a topic

Black people dont rally behind one rapper, we have thousand to choose from.

We have hundreds of mainstream artists to choose from we dont rally behind just one.
 
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rapmastermind;858705 said:
Yes I went with Obama cause he was Black it was refreshing to finally see someone who represented me be on the ballot but also cause he was clearly a better canidate than Mccain who was nothing more than Bush Part III. It's sad that it took so long to elect a Black President, it proved that America's racism ran really deep. Had it been Hillary, I would of voted for her. Nothing Hypocritically about it. What's hypocritical is white people saying "Blacks only voted for Obama cause he's black" when they've done nothing but vote for their own their whole history. Now that's Hypocriacy. It's easy for a White Person to say that when they've again only voted for Whites their whole lives.

It's also refreshing to see a white emcee dominate the rap game, and also because he's clearly better than 90% of other artists.
 
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hrap-120;858728 said:
Black people dont rally behind one rapper, we have thousand to choose from.

We have hundreds of mainstream artists to choose from we dont rally behind just one.

That's a lie. You may not rally behind one due to his race, due to you being the SAME race but they will rally behind one due to being a stan. We've see that on here.
 
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hrap-120;858728 said:
Black people dont rally behind one rapper, we have thousand to choose from.

We have hundreds of mainstream artists to choose from we dont rally behind just one.

Neither do all whites. I know quite a few whites that don't like eminem and prefer other black rappers.

Its natural for a race that has no success in any arena to rally behind one of there own when hes truly the first to do it well and successfully. Look at Obama. Blacks blindly support him and rally behind him because of his race, some whites do too.
 
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VIBE86;858712 said:
What I'm saying is, as a high selling artist he CAN be taken seriously because he has the skill to back it up. Constantly I've been saying that and you cannot comprehend that, you're taking it as I'm saying, "he has skills so that's why he sells period".

It's like the saying, "talk though, you better back it up" . If you can't back it up, you have no credibility. If you can, then you're credible and can be taken as a serious person.

Same shit with the sells, he can sell like that because he CAN back it up.

Just grasp that concept man, it's not hard.

what do you mean by back it up? Can 50 cent back up his stuff? Or what about lil wayne, or the game...what exactly do you mean by back it up.

i mean i know back it up means "to live up to what you say" but how does that apply here?
 
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Capo1;858729 said:
It's also refreshing to see a white emcee dominate the rap game, and also because he's clearly better than 90% of other artists.

Question for you: Did you like everything Eminem has dropped throughout his career thus far ? How would you average out his catalog on a scale of 1-5 ?
 
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FrozenMind;858722 said:
Yes, they are hating them. Bitch niggas like to hate on anyone who is more successful than them. So they talk shit about the greats because they ain't shit compared to them and never will be. Jigga gets hate from this illuminati bullshit because he is rock solid and has no Ls. Eminem gets hate from this race bullshit because he is also rock solid with no Ls. NaS gets hate because he has Ls. Reguardless its all hatred, and yes blacks are mad at em for selling alot and receiving critical acclaim he is due.
It burns the hatin bitch niggas soul that not only is he successful and came from nothing (always warrants hate) but he also white. Which adds an extra layer of pain in the bitch niggas mind. It hurts there feelings and your in that group.

You sound like your feelings are hurt more than anybody in this thread....that much profanity and "nigga" is usually reserved for Klan rallys or angry skinheads on the internet.

I have heard of delusion before but I never in my life heard a Stan say "Emenim has no L's", that pretty much kills your credibility if you had any.

So if "bitch-nigga's" like to hate on anyone more successful than them it might explain why you enjoy hating on LiL B....

..at least pick a legend to hate on instead of a independent artist...thats just low self-esteem!
 
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curtis75black;858781 said:
Question for you: Did you like everything Eminem has dropped throughout his career thus far ? How would you average out his catalog on a scale of 1-5 ?

Infinite: 4/5

SSLP: 4.8/5

MMLP: 5/5

Eminem Show: 5/5

Encore: 2.8/5

Relapse: 3.5/5

Recovery: 4.5/5
 
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Capo1;858721 said:
So if someone thinks eminem is one of the best out, it's only cause he's white?

If it's a White person, I'd say 99.0%. If, it's a Black Person I'd say it's because, he's popular and sold to them. In my humble opinion of course.
 
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FrozenMind;858722 said:
Yes, they are hating them. Bitch niggas like to hate on anyone who is more successful than them. So they talk shit about the greats because they ain't shit compared to them and never will be. Jigga gets hate from this illuminati bullshit because he is rock solid and has no Ls. Eminem gets hate from this race bullshit because he is also rock solid with no Ls. NaS gets hate because he has Ls. Reguardless its all hatred, and yes blacks are mad at em for selling alot and receiving critical acclaim he is due.
It burns the hatin bitch niggas soul that not only is he successful and came from nothing (always warrants hate) but he also white. Which adds an extra layer of pain in the bitch niggas mind. It hurts there feelings and your in that group.

I think not only are you delusional but you have no idea that, this a message board were discussions are had.
 
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Kwan Dai;858806 said:
If it's a White person, I'd say 99.0%. If, it's a Black Person I'd say it's because, he's popular and sold to them. In my humble opinion of course.

So what was your reaction when Nas said Eminem was one of the best out? When Rakim said he was the white muhammad ali?
 
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Kwan Dai;858825 said:
I think not only are you delusional but you have no idea that, this a message board were discussions are had.

LMWAO at you calling someone else delusional....
 
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hrap-120;858787 said:
You sound like your feelings are hurt more than anybody in this thread....that much profanity and "nigga" is usually reserved for Klan rallys or angry skinheads on the internet.

I have heard of delusion before but I never in my life heard a Stan say "Emenim has no L's", that pretty much kills your credibility if you had any.

So if "bitch-nigga's" like to hate on anyone more successful than them it might explain why you enjoy hating on LiL B....

..at least pick a legend to hate on instead of a independent artist...thats just low self-esteem!

No, its proves it until you can list some Ls he has had, and I consider an L something financial. The racist tapes obviously didn't hurt his sales, so that ain't an L. So prove me wrong.

I hate Lil B cause hes fake, hes soft, hes gay, his voice sounds autistic, he can't flow, & he can't rap. You hate em cause hes white, and you hate Jigga cause he used to wear hawaiin shirts before he blew up, you don't actually hate either person for who they are or a lack of skills, the real reason you hate them because they are greater than you. Bow Down.
 
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ambiguous1;858734 said:
lmao..................

he brings stats to his debate you cant deny

VIBE86;858744 said:
That's a lie. You may not rally behind one due to his race, due to you being the SAME race but they will rally behind one due to being a stan. We've see that on here.
Um Im talking about rallying behind race bruh

Capo1;858729 said:
It's also refreshing to see a white emcee dominate the rap game, and also because he's clearly better than 90% of other artists.
Yeah the rap game maybe but rap is only one genre of music entertainment. There's also Jazz, R&B, Pop, Blues, Gospel, and Reggae to name a few...and its refreashing to see Black entertainers dominate those games because they are clearly better than 99% of other artists.

Look at them getting all mad !! While we remain calm......

Kwan Dai;858717 said:
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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