The Official Dragonball Super Thread (All my DBZ fans come in here)

[DarthRozay]

haven't watched this since they were covering the movie, how's it going? is it dope?

 

[270crownst]

So does this make jiren stronger then all of the Gods?..and if goku beats him in the rematch,Will he be the strongest in all of the universes?..

 

[CottonCitySlim]

I'm pretty sure before the tournament is over freiza and vegata will learn the technique

Once freiza learns it, all hell will break loose.

 

[MrCrookedLetter]

haven't watched this since they were covering the movie, how's it going? is it dope?

@DarthRozay which movie are you talking about?

 

[OmegaConflict]

Goku voice changed to during his battle with Joren.

Goku hasnt tried everything theres only one thing left to do and fusion is out of the question

OOzaru

 

[gemini86]

thinking about the outcome of the tournament, i remember everyone saying it doesnt matter who gets erased because Goku will wish them all back with the super dragon balls.

but what about Frieza? he needs those to be wished back. Frieza is also alive for the full 24 hours. the tournament is only 48 mins. Does he have time to steal the godcube and go to new namek to get other dragonballs? this arc is damn near perfect besides buu not being in it. he couldve taken tiens spot lol

 

[KnowReasonForPeace]

where does goku vs jiren rank all time in dragonball fights

I wouldn't put it in the top 10 but it's up there.... These are the best fights in dragonball's history in my opinion:

#1. SSJ2 Goku vs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta -- Classic fight, Vegeta and Goku held no punches. Vegeta won this fight even tho he had to trick Goku. Great dialogue and great combat in every way.

#2. Goku/Vegeta/Trunks vs. Black/Zamasu -- has to be #1 or 2, niggas was getting TOSSED and you didn't know what was gonna happen. Everyone had their moment and they kept pushing the envelop and their limits even getting Vegito into the fray. Great battle and IMO the best one we've seen.

#3. Piccolo vs. Android 17 -- has to be in the top 5, Piccolo gave 17 that work. But 17 was no pushover. Piccolo was throwing down and beating that nigga senseless, at certain points you thought it was even and could have gone either way.

#4. Goku vs. Frieza -- only person I ever seen break Goku's will. Frieza had Goku hallucinating seeing naked men Goku had never met LOLOL. Frieza broke him down mentally and physically. It was just so amazing.

#5. SSG Goku vs. Beerus -- Great fight, it's just a new generation of dragonball, it was just so well done. Wonder how it would have looked in the late 80s/early 90s.

#6. Goku vs. Cell -- you knew Cell was gonna win but aesthetically it was flawless, and NO Lonious Cell wasn't weaker than Goku man LOLOLOL

#7. Piccolo vs. Frieza -- This was a great fight, Piccolo prolly has the best fights in the series. You didn't know what he was capable of especially after absorbing Nail and going up against the strongest person in the galaxy.

#8. Goku/Vegeta vs. Kid Buu -- Buu is the only villain to do what no other villain could - destroy Earth and defeat Goku. This was a good fight but a dayum shame Kid Buu lost most of his power before being beaten by SSJ3 Goku.

Honourable Mentions: Android 16 vs. Imperfect Cell -- 16 ripped off all of Cell's limbs and then proceeded to crater that nigga into oblivion. 17 and 18 wasted it tho not running away when he told them to SMMFH.

#9. SSJ2 Gohan vs. Perfect Cell -- classic, everyone was a Gohan fan back then but when he went SSJ2 and bodied Cell !? Shhhiiieeeetttt. From before his transformation to after their fight was amazing.

#10. Vegeta vs. Frieza -- Frieza beat the hell outta Vegeta and straight up reduced him to tears. Need I remind you Vegeta is a grown ass man. He crushed Vegeta mentally and physically.

Honourable Mention: Goten vs. Trunks -- even tho Goten couldn't fly this was a good ass fight at the Martial Arts Tournament. Dope to see 2 rival generations fight for supremacy. Watching Vegeta smile like a proud dad watching his only son that made it was pure ether LOLOL

Thats a nice list, but for starters goku vs. frieza should be number 1 on everybody list. I said this current fight is secomd best because of how i was invested in every single thing going on i. The beginning of the fight until the end. Only goku vs frieza pulled me in like that before.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Freiza will probably learn it before Vegeta. The thing about Vegeta is his strength is in coming up with his own shit. He's never been shown to be as quick as Goku when it comes to learning shit from others. Hell, even for Goku, he couldn't just learn this from Whis. It took the DEM with the Spirit Bomb to force the transformation. It's obvious that Vegeta couldn't just look at it and figure it out. Freiza on the other hand is touted as being that kinda genius. I could see Freiza somewhat getting the hang of it in this tournament with Vegeta going away for a while after the tournament and coming back having figured it out.

What would be dope is if Vegeta was forced to figure it out during the tournament, and then he and Goku fused to beat Jiren.

 

[Qiv_Owan]

Goku voice changed to during his battle with Joren.

Goku hasnt tried everything theres only one thing left to do and fusion is out of the question

OOzaru

Oozaru Kale got that work like nothing tho

I see Piccolo absorbing the Namekian and giving Jiren a try

That's not fusion so it should be legal

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Fusion isn't allowed? I missed that.

 

[MR.CJ]

Classic fight

 

[iron man1]

Goku voice changed to during his battle with Joren.

Goku hasnt tried everything theres only one thing left to do and fusion is out of the question

OOzaru

Oozaru Kale got that work like nothing tho

I see Piccolo absorbing the Namekian and giving Jiren a try

That's not fusion so it should be legal

Fusion is a natural technique it's legal not potaro rings.

 

[CashmoneyDux]

Freiza shouldn't get it tbh he'd be dumb OP

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

where does goku vs jiren rank all time in dragonball fights

I wouldn't put it in the top 10 but it's up there.... These are the best fights in dragonball's history in my opinion:

#1. SSJ2 Goku vs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta -- Classic fight, Vegeta and Goku held no punches. Vegeta won this fight even tho he had to trick Goku. Great dialogue and great combat in every way.

#2. Goku/Vegeta/Trunks vs. Black/Zamasu -- has to be #1 or 2, niggas was getting TOSSED and you didn't know what was gonna happen. Everyone had their moment and they kept pushing the envelop and their limits even getting Vegito into the fray. Great battle and IMO the best one we've seen.

#3. Piccolo vs. Android 17 -- has to be in the top 5, Piccolo gave 17 that work. But 17 was no pushover. Piccolo was throwing down and beating that nigga senseless, at certain points you thought it was even and could have gone either way.

#4. Goku vs. Frieza -- only person I ever seen break Goku's will. Frieza had Goku hallucinating seeing naked men Goku had never met LOLOL. Frieza broke him down mentally and physically. It was just so amazing.

#5. SSG Goku vs. Beerus -- Great fight, it's just a new generation of dragonball, it was just so well done. Wonder how it would have looked in the late 80s/early 90s.

#6. Goku vs. Cell -- you knew Cell was gonna win but aesthetically it was flawless, and NO Lonious Cell wasn't weaker than Goku man LOLOLOL

#7. Piccolo vs. Frieza -- This was a great fight, Piccolo prolly has the best fights in the series. You didn't know what he was capable of especially after absorbing Nail and going up against the strongest person in the galaxy.

#8. Goku/Vegeta vs. Kid Buu -- Buu is the only villain to do what no other villain could - destroy Earth and defeat Goku. This was a good fight but a dayum shame Kid Buu lost most of his power before being beaten by SSJ3 Goku.

Honourable Mentions: Android 16 vs. Imperfect Cell -- 16 ripped off all of Cell's limbs and then proceeded to crater that nigga into oblivion. 17 and 18 wasted it tho not running away when he told them to SMMFH.

#9. SSJ2 Gohan vs. Perfect Cell -- classic, everyone was a Gohan fan back then but when he went SSJ2 and bodied Cell !? Shhhiiieeeetttt. From before his transformation to after their fight was amazing.

#10. Vegeta vs. Frieza -- Frieza beat the hell outta Vegeta and straight up reduced him to tears. Need I remind you Vegeta is a grown ass man. He crushed Vegeta mentally and physically.

Honourable Mention: Goten vs. Trunks -- even tho Goten couldn't fly this was a good ass fight at the Martial Arts Tournament. Dope to see 2 rival generations fight for supremacy. Watching Vegeta smile like a proud dad watching his only son that made it was pure ether LOLOL

No Original Dragon Ball fights? @Sion they were really nice and executed well. Piccolo Daimao fight is my favorite one.

The quality of fights in DB just doesnt compare the same to the ones in DBZ and DBS. The Piccolo vs Goku fight was dope as hell tho. Tien and Goku and Goku vs Yamcha was notable as well.

Funny looking back - dayum near every friend Goku made he fought and they were enemies. Yamcha was literally a bandit and thief when he met him. He almost killed Goku had it not been for Bulma LOLOL. Tien too, same goes for Piccolo. In DBZ the only nigga Goku showed the same mercy for was Vegeta. Everyone else he had enough sense to kill. Although he did wish back Buu but as a good guy.

nigga forgave everybody and became friends with them with the exception of his own actual blood brother lol

I mean he gave that nigga ample opportunies. Saiyans are dumb stubborn, b.

 

[270crownst]

If goku had the chance to gather energy from earth too,Would've it been enough to defeat jiren??

 

[IamNumberOne]

Freiza will probably learn it before Vegeta. The thing about Vegeta is his strength is in coming up with his own shit. He's never been shown to be as quick as Goku when it comes to learning shit from others. Hell, even for Goku, he couldn't just learn this from Whis. It took the DEM with the Spirit Bomb to force the transformation. It's obvious that Vegeta couldn't just look at it and figure it out. Freiza on the other hand is touted as being that kinda genius. I could see Freiza somewhat getting the hang of it in this tournament with Vegeta going away for a while after the tournament and coming back having figured it out.

What would be dope is if Vegeta was forced to figure it out during the tournament, and then he and Goku fused to beat Jiren.

Gotta disagree fam....

Going super saiyan 1 (then ascended SSJ) and super saiyan blue he learned very quickly, he also learned how to read ki almost immediately after leaving Earth to where he didn't need a scouter anymore and how to hide ki. I think we're underestimating how combat intelligent Vegeta also is. Vegeta is incredibly quick-witted in battle as well having figured out various foes & their weaknesses/strengths (Frost, Black, Zamasu, etc.) if anyone is gonna figure out Jiren it's prolly gonna be Vegeta.

And when he was fighting Hit he was mad and mentions how Goku used his fight to figure out Hits fighting style...so he's watching this fight but did say he's seeing it with his own eyes but it's unreal

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Freiza will probably learn it before Vegeta. The thing about Vegeta is his strength is in coming up with his own shit. He's never been shown to be as quick as Goku when it comes to learning shit from others. Hell, even for Goku, he couldn't just learn this from Whis. It took the DEM with the Spirit Bomb to force the transformation. It's obvious that Vegeta couldn't just look at it and figure it out. Freiza on the other hand is touted as being that kinda genius. I could see Freiza somewhat getting the hang of it in this tournament with Vegeta going away for a while after the tournament and coming back having figured it out.

What would be dope is if Vegeta was forced to figure it out during the tournament, and then he and Goku fused to beat Jiren.

Gotta disagree fam....

Going super saiyan 1 (then ascended SSJ) and super saiyan blue he learned very quickly, he also learned how to read ki almost immediately after leaving Earth to where he didn't need a scouter anymore and how to hide ki. I think we're underestimating how combat intelligent Vegeta also is. Vegeta is incredibly quick-witted in battle as well having figured out various foes & their weaknesses/strengths (Frost, Black, Zamasu, etc.) if anyone is gonna figure out Jiren it's prolly gonna be Vegeta.

I think you're making some unfounded assumptions there. Correct me if I'm wrong cause my DBZ memory often has holes in it. We saw that it took a lot for Vegeta to go SSJ. I don't know if it was filler or not, but remember they showed that he left and basically wore himself out trying to go SSJ and even then only accomplished it by coming to an epiphany. He learned ascended SSJ in the RoSaT, so who knows how long it actually took for him to do it. We also don't know how long it took him to go SSB, but we do know Whis had to give both Goku and Vegeta special training for it so it's not like he just pulled it out of his ass. I'll give you him learning how to read and hide ki.

I agree with you that Vegeta is a very combat intelligent. I'm not really talking about that. I'm talking about the ability to learn techniques on the fly. Vegeta has never been shown to do what Goku can do. Goku learned the Kamehameha after seeing it done once and learned Kaioken faster than King Kai thought was possible. That's not really Vegeta's thing. Vegeta is more the guy that sees a problem and develops or innovates his own shit to deal with a problem. That's why SSG/SSB switching that he did in the Manga made so much sense and why it sucks that they gave it to Goku in the anime.

 

[IamNumberOne]

Whis is the only character that has ever trained Vegeta...Goku has been trained by countless characters

 

[MrCrookedLetter]

Rebriane shoulda been eliminated by getting outside help from her teammates....

 

[OmegaConflict]

Whis is the only character that has ever trained Vegeta...Goku has been trained by countless characters

A true saiyan doesnt make excuses