The Official Dragonball Super Thread (All my DBZ fans come in here)

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jono;c-9636036 said:
The speech was uncharacteristic but Goku's heroism isn't. In Dragon Ball dude assaulted Muscle Tower because of their grip on whatever village that is they conquered.

He also went on a mission to revive his friend's father.

There is a differenc between hero and superhero. Goku isn't a superhero. He's not a crime fighter.

It's not that Goku isn't a good guy that will do decent things when given the chance. If people ask him for help, he'll help. What Toriyama is getting at is that Goku's motivation isn't heroic because he's more drawn to conflict because of his lust for fighting than for any good he may accomplish.

His fight with Vegeta is a good example. When Vegeta threatened to destroy the planet, Goku was genuinely alarmed and he was willing to sacrifice everything to save the world. But moments later when Krillin had the chance to kill Vegeta, Goku stopped him. He didn't for any noble reason. He did it because he wanted to fight Vegeta again even if it meant putting the world in danger again. That's not heroic, but it is a defining characteristic of Goku.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9636255 said:
jono;c-9636036 said:
The speech was uncharacteristic but Goku's heroism isn't. In Dragon Ball dude assaulted Muscle Tower because of their grip on whatever village that is they conquered.

He also went on a mission to revive his friend's father.

There is a differenc between hero and superhero. Goku isn't a superhero. He's not a crime fighter.

It's not that Goku isn't a good guy that will do decent things when given the chance. If people ask him for help, he'll help. What Toriyama is getting at is that Goku's motivation isn't heroic because he's more drawn to conflict because of his lust for fighting than for any good he may accomplish.

His fight with Vegeta is a good example. When Vegeta threatened to destroy the planet, Goku was genuinely alarmed and he was willing to sacrifice everything to save the world. But moments later when Krillin had the chance to kill Vegeta, Goku stopped him. He didn't for any noble reason. He did it because he wanted to fight Vegeta again even if it meant putting the world in danger again. That's not heroic, but it is a defining characteristic of Goku.

I agree. Goku shoulda let him live just off the fact he was the last saiyan besides himself. He already had a hand in the other two dying
 
Beta;c-9636412 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9636255 said:
jono;c-9636036 said:
The speech was uncharacteristic but Goku's heroism isn't. In Dragon Ball dude assaulted Muscle Tower because of their grip on whatever village that is they conquered.

He also went on a mission to revive his friend's father.

There is a differenc between hero and superhero. Goku isn't a superhero. He's not a crime fighter.

It's not that Goku isn't a good guy that will do decent things when given the chance. If people ask him for help, he'll help. What Toriyama is getting at is that Goku's motivation isn't heroic because he's more drawn to conflict because of his lust for fighting than for any good he may accomplish.

His fight with Vegeta is a good example. When Vegeta threatened to destroy the planet, Goku was genuinely alarmed and he was willing to sacrifice everything to save the world. But moments later when Krillin had the chance to kill Vegeta, Goku stopped him. He didn't for any noble reason. He did it because he wanted to fight Vegeta again even if it meant putting the world in danger again. That's not heroic, but it is a defining characteristic of Goku.

I agree. Goku shoulda let him live just off the fact he was the last saiyan besides himself. He already had a hand in the other two dying

Nah its time for vegeta to get killed.

Not die but killed again

He betrayed us all
 
Goku aint shit. yeah he strong and all but this last episode.. this nigga wanna fight somebody so bad he bout to risk the whole universe? plus he a deadbeat dad lmao..

Narrative should shift to Vegeta and other side chars IMO.. they're more interesting than Goku at this point.

Vegeta done had the most character development than anyone else in the series far as i can tell.
 
goku will redeem himself and realize the error of his ways. all that bloodshed will be his fault. which can shape up next season nicely. somebody will want revenge. wether its a god or one of the fighters
 
inori;c-9636694 said:
Goku aint shit. yeah he strong and all but this last episode.. this nigga wanna fight somebody so bad he bout to risk the whole universe? plus he a deadbeat dad lmao..

Narrative should shift to Vegeta and other side chars IMO.. they're more interesting than Goku at this point.

Vegeta done had the most character development than anyone else in the series far as i can tell.

You say that like he knew what the stakes were gonna be. Can't really throw Beerus's warning out there either considering he did the EXACT SAME SHIT.
 
gemini86;c-9636744 said:
goku will redeem himself and realize the error of his ways. all that bloodshed will be his fault. which can shape up next season nicely. somebody will want revenge. wether its a god or one of the fighters

Like he did in the cell saga? ??
 
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Buu better keep it trill and absorb that nigga... It would be dope if Beerus was forced the bring back Super Buu and Cell to fight for them in the tournament
 
Buu was feared in HIS universe other universes weren't known of till DBS...he was defeated and Goku and Vegeta have grown stronger since then so...yea
 

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