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CashmoneyDux;8958826 said:
coop9889;8958813 said:
The argument of why vegega used ssb against cabba is silly. Of course he would use his highest level. Gives something for cabba to aspire to.

Lmao wtf he can't aspire to, I don't know, go anything beyond ss1, like ALL of the forms they came up with In Dbz?

For over half of dbz niggas thought ssj was the best shit. It wasn't until semi perfect cell that we learned they could go higher than ssj. Remember in the android saga vegeta thought he was the strongest in the universe cuz he was super saiyan.

Well imagine if when future trunks came back he went ss, then ss2, then ss3, then ssg, then ssb. Niggas would be looking at the rest of the series wayyyyyy differently. Goku and vegeta would pretty much never step foot outside the hyperbolic time chamber until ssb was reached. Then cell/buu wouldve been childs play for them. Remember vegeta thinking "ultra ssj" used against semi perfect cell was pretty much the pinnacle of ascension? He would've known that he wasn't even close.

To bring it back full circle, when cabba goes back he ain't gonna stop training until he reaches ssb. Which is what vegeta knew, which is why he showed him that power. It ain't hard to comprehend.
 
CashmoneyDux;8958841 said:
The Lonious Monk;8957127 said:
CashmoneyDux;8956162 said:
That shit wowed me as a kid.

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You are reaching hard right now

lol How am I reaching? Yeah it worked on you as a kid because you can't do any of that shit. Again, Cabba just managed to learn how to go SSJ in the span of like 10 mins. Given that fact, which one would have more effect, Vegeta using a form that looks largely the same with some minor differences or Vegeta using a form that looks and feels different for those who see it?

Bro what? You keep saying it doesn't look different when I just posted pictures that clearly show a distinct difference. And lolol they can all sense ki. That's like a main thing in this entire series. They can tell when you get stronger just like it was a big deal in the cell saga when Gohan went ssj2 and it wowed everyone because they also couldn't do it. You don't think a nigga that just learned how to be a super saiyan wouldnt be wowed by the next level? You reaching

lol If you can see the massive gulf in differences between SSJ1 -> SSJ2 and SSJ1 -> SSB, I don't know what to tell you. At this point, you're just denying reality. Again, if you're trying to completely shatter the ceiling of someone's expectations, you're going to give them the biggest example possible not something that's like 3 rungs down the ladder. And it's been stated and explained more than once that the SSB Ki feels different. People can tell they are powerful, but most can't sense the Ki. Hell, they've even explained why that is.
 
iron man1;8959432 said:
rebel_rell43;8958735 said:
Vegeta was never an will never be equal to Goku. SNS

Chill...he was stronger in the sayain saga UNTIL Goku trained in 100x gravity and he was a bit stronger when he first became SS. Then they went back n forth with the hyperbolic training until ss3 gave him the full advantage. In DBS they are currently even training under Whis.

Actually Vegeta is stronger than goku in dbs. The kao-Ken technique didn't make goku stronger just ridiculously faster.
 
I mean he really hasn't touched DBZ since 1990s he even forgot that ssj2 even existed . He thought ssj2 was 3!!! I think is he really forgot who he just ran with the super Saiyan 1 being important
 
The Lonious Monk;8959835 said:
CashmoneyDux;8958841 said:
The Lonious Monk;8957127 said:
CashmoneyDux;8956162 said:
That shit wowed me as a kid.

gohanss1-98xf1.jpg


vs

1329495794.jpg


You are reaching hard right now

lol How am I reaching? Yeah it worked on you as a kid because you can't do any of that shit. Again, Cabba just managed to learn how to go SSJ in the span of like 10 mins. Given that fact, which one would have more effect, Vegeta using a form that looks largely the same with some minor differences or Vegeta using a form that looks and feels different for those who see it?

Bro what? You keep saying it doesn't look different when I just posted pictures that clearly show a distinct difference. And lolol they can all sense ki. That's like a main thing in this entire series. They can tell when you get stronger just like it was a big deal in the cell saga when Gohan went ssj2 and it wowed everyone because they also couldn't do it. You don't think a nigga that just learned how to be a super saiyan wouldnt be wowed by the next level? You reaching

lol If you can see the massive gulf in differences between SSJ1 -> SSJ2 and SSJ1 -> SSB, I don't know what to tell you. At this point, you're just denying reality. Again, if you're trying to completely shatter the ceiling of someone's expectations, you're going to give them the biggest example possible not something that's like 3 rungs down the ladder. And it's been stated and explained more than once that the SSB Ki feels different. People can tell they are powerful, but most can't sense the Ki. Hell, they've even explained why that is.

So you're arguing against a point I never made. Reading is fundamental
 
CashmoneyDux;8961335 said:
The Lonious Monk;8959835 said:
CashmoneyDux;8958841 said:
The Lonious Monk;8957127 said:
CashmoneyDux;8956162 said:
That shit wowed me as a kid.

gohanss1-98xf1.jpg


vs

1329495794.jpg


You are reaching hard right now

lol How am I reaching? Yeah it worked on you as a kid because you can't do any of that shit. Again, Cabba just managed to learn how to go SSJ in the span of like 10 mins. Given that fact, which one would have more effect, Vegeta using a form that looks largely the same with some minor differences or Vegeta using a form that looks and feels different for those who see it?

Bro what? You keep saying it doesn't look different when I just posted pictures that clearly show a distinct difference. And lolol they can all sense ki. That's like a main thing in this entire series. They can tell when you get stronger just like it was a big deal in the cell saga when Gohan went ssj2 and it wowed everyone because they also couldn't do it. You don't think a nigga that just learned how to be a super saiyan wouldnt be wowed by the next level? You reaching

lol If you can see the massive gulf in differences between SSJ1 -> SSJ2 and SSJ1 -> SSB, I don't know what to tell you. At this point, you're just denying reality. Again, if you're trying to completely shatter the ceiling of someone's expectations, you're going to give them the biggest example possible not something that's like 3 rungs down the ladder. And it's been stated and explained more than once that the SSB Ki feels different. People can tell they are powerful, but most can't sense the Ki. Hell, they've even explained why that is.

So you're arguing against a point I never made. Reading is fundamental

Comprehension is fundamental too. You keep on harping on the differences between SSJ1 and SSJ2. In your last post you made it seem like I was wrong to say the differences between SSJ1 and SSJ2 are minor. I pointed out that it should be obvious to anyone that those differences are minor especially in comparison to the differences between SSj and SSB.
 
KnowReasonForPeace;8960815 said:
iron man1;8959432 said:
rebel_rell43;8958735 said:
Vegeta was never an will never be equal to Goku. SNS

Chill...he was stronger in the sayain saga UNTIL Goku trained in 100x gravity and he was a bit stronger when he first became SS. Then they went back n forth with the hyperbolic training until ss3 gave him the full advantage. In DBS they are currently even training under Whis.

Actually Vegeta is stronger than goku in dbs. The kao-Ken technique didn't make goku stronger just ridiculously faster.

Goku is stronger than vegeta because he took more punches from Hit than vegeta
 
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Beta_SataN;8963626 said:
KnowReasonForPeace;8960815 said:
iron man1;8959432 said:
rebel_rell43;8958735 said:
Vegeta was never an will never be equal to Goku. SNS

Chill...he was stronger in the sayain saga UNTIL Goku trained in 100x gravity and he was a bit stronger when he first became SS. Then they went back n forth with the hyperbolic training until ss3 gave him the full advantage. In DBS they are currently even training under Whis.

Actually Vegeta is stronger than goku in dbs. The kao-Ken technique didn't make goku stronger just ridiculously faster.

Goku is stronger than vegeta because he took more punches from Hit than vegeta

No he didn't. At least not the same kind of punches. Vegeta to completely undefended punches directly to his pressure points. Goku took a lot of hits but they were while he was actively resisting.
 
The Lonious Monk;8963902 said:
Beta_SataN;8963626 said:
KnowReasonForPeace;8960815 said:
iron man1;8959432 said:
rebel_rell43;8958735 said:
Vegeta was never an will never be equal to Goku. SNS

Chill...he was stronger in the sayain saga UNTIL Goku trained in 100x gravity and he was a bit stronger when he first became SS. Then they went back n forth with the hyperbolic training until ss3 gave him the full advantage. In DBS they are currently even training under Whis.

Actually Vegeta is stronger than goku in dbs. The kao-Ken technique didn't make goku stronger just ridiculously faster.

Goku is stronger than vegeta because he took more punches from Hit than vegeta

No he didn't. At least not the same kind of punches. Vegeta to completely undefended punches directly to his pressure points. Goku took a lot of hits but they were while he was actively resisting.

What In the fuck are you smoking
 
The Lonious Monk;8961509 said:
CashmoneyDux;8961335 said:
The Lonious Monk;8959835 said:
CashmoneyDux;8958841 said:
The Lonious Monk;8957127 said:
CashmoneyDux;8956162 said:
That shit wowed me as a kid.

gohanss1-98xf1.jpg


vs

1329495794.jpg


You are reaching hard right now

lol How am I reaching? Yeah it worked on you as a kid because you can't do any of that shit. Again, Cabba just managed to learn how to go SSJ in the span of like 10 mins. Given that fact, which one would have more effect, Vegeta using a form that looks largely the same with some minor differences or Vegeta using a form that looks and feels different for those who see it?

Bro what? You keep saying it doesn't look different when I just posted pictures that clearly show a distinct difference. And lolol they can all sense ki. That's like a main thing in this entire series. They can tell when you get stronger just like it was a big deal in the cell saga when Gohan went ssj2 and it wowed everyone because they also couldn't do it. You don't think a nigga that just learned how to be a super saiyan wouldnt be wowed by the next level? You reaching

lol If you can see the massive gulf in differences between SSJ1 -> SSJ2 and SSJ1 -> SSB, I don't know what to tell you. At this point, you're just denying reality. Again, if you're trying to completely shatter the ceiling of someone's expectations, you're going to give them the biggest example possible not something that's like 3 rungs down the ladder. And it's been stated and explained more than once that the SSB Ki feels different. People can tell they are powerful, but most can't sense the Ki. Hell, they've even explained why that is.

So you're arguing against a point I never made. Reading is fundamental

Comprehension is fundamental too. You keep on harping on the differences between SSJ1 and SSJ2. In your last post you made it seem like I was wrong to say the differences between SSJ1 and SSJ2 are minor. I pointed out that it should be obvious to anyone that those differences are minor especially in comparison to the differences between SSj and SSB.

I agree it is. Of course they are minor compared to Ssb but that clearly wasn't the point I was making.
 
Beta_SataN;8963949 said:
The Lonious Monk;8963902 said:
Beta_SataN;8963626 said:
KnowReasonForPeace;8960815 said:
iron man1;8959432 said:
rebel_rell43;8958735 said:
Vegeta was never an will never be equal to Goku. SNS

Chill...he was stronger in the sayain saga UNTIL Goku trained in 100x gravity and he was a bit stronger when he first became SS. Then they went back n forth with the hyperbolic training until ss3 gave him the full advantage. In DBS they are currently even training under Whis.

Actually Vegeta is stronger than goku in dbs. The kao-Ken technique didn't make goku stronger just ridiculously faster.

Goku is stronger than vegeta because he took more punches from Hit than vegeta

No he didn't. At least not the same kind of punches. Vegeta to completely undefended punches directly to his pressure points. Goku took a lot of hits but they were while he was actively resisting.

What In the fuck are you smoking

Vegeta was caught off guard when he took those punches

Goku had a heads up by knowing Hit was attacking vital organs and the time-leap
 
CashmoneyDux;8965272 said:
I really want to see goku vs vegeta after they train after this tournament. Shit would be crazy

We've never gotten that true one on one because some bullshit always happening lol
 
CashmoneyDux;8964012 said:
The Lonious Monk;8961509 said:
CashmoneyDux;8961335 said:
The Lonious Monk;8959835 said:
CashmoneyDux;8958841 said:
The Lonious Monk;8957127 said:
CashmoneyDux;8956162 said:
That shit wowed me as a kid.

gohanss1-98xf1.jpg


vs

1329495794.jpg


You are reaching hard right now

lol How am I reaching? Yeah it worked on you as a kid because you can't do any of that shit. Again, Cabba just managed to learn how to go SSJ in the span of like 10 mins. Given that fact, which one would have more effect, Vegeta using a form that looks largely the same with some minor differences or Vegeta using a form that looks and feels different for those who see it?

Bro what? You keep saying it doesn't look different when I just posted pictures that clearly show a distinct difference. And lolol they can all sense ki. That's like a main thing in this entire series. They can tell when you get stronger just like it was a big deal in the cell saga when Gohan went ssj2 and it wowed everyone because they also couldn't do it. You don't think a nigga that just learned how to be a super saiyan wouldnt be wowed by the next level? You reaching

lol If you can see the massive gulf in differences between SSJ1 -> SSJ2 and SSJ1 -> SSB, I don't know what to tell you. At this point, you're just denying reality. Again, if you're trying to completely shatter the ceiling of someone's expectations, you're going to give them the biggest example possible not something that's like 3 rungs down the ladder. And it's been stated and explained more than once that the SSB Ki feels different. People can tell they are powerful, but most can't sense the Ki. Hell, they've even explained why that is.

So you're arguing against a point I never made. Reading is fundamental

Comprehension is fundamental too. You keep on harping on the differences between SSJ1 and SSJ2. In your last post you made it seem like I was wrong to say the differences between SSJ1 and SSJ2 are minor. I pointed out that it should be obvious to anyone that those differences are minor especially in comparison to the differences between SSj and SSB.

I agree it is. Of course they are minor compared to Ssb but that clearly wasn't the point I was making.

Well you're right then, at this point, I don't know what your point is. I've been saying the whole time that he needed to show SSB because that's the current benchmark and the difference between SSJ1 and SSJ2 aren't important enough to impress someone who so easily achieved SSJ1. Seems to me that you've tried multiple times to argue that SSJ1 and SSJ2 are very different and therefore SSB wasn't necessary at that point. If that's not what you're arguing, I don't know what you're arguing.

gemini86;8965703 said:
Hit literally froze time and fucked Goku up lol. Goku couldn't defend

You right. I forgot about that, but was Hit really targetting vital points then. It looked like he was just swarming Goku with attacks.
 
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Has Goku ever beat Vegeta in any kind of fight?

Didn't Vegeta beat Goku to a pulp during their first fight, and Goku was only saved by Gohan, Krillen, and Yajorobe (sp?)?

Then, during the Frieza saga, Vegeta beat up Goku (and Ginyu after they switched bodies though) so bad that they had to put him in that healing chamber.

Then during the Buu saga, (Majin) Vegeta knocked out Goku in their fight, although he did blindside him and Goku didn't go SSJ3.

I can't remember what happened with Bebi Vegeta though.

 

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