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Lou_Cypher;c-10129098 said:
Fuck Christopher Reeves

It's funny how butthurt people get that the first superhero movie performance that inspired everything you see today still outshines most of them.
 
People even prefer the TV guy on CW right now because he's written the way Superman at his best has been written. Yet he's not a Reeve clone. Still undeniably Superman. Stop getting mad at other performances that people prefer over your boys. It's not healthy. Holla at Cavill on social media and ask him to demand better material to work with.
 
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Reeves was dope. Loved him as Superman. I think MoS will go down as one of the best portrayals. I wish it was expanded more in the beginning of the film about him helping others in the past and the mythical status those stories were in Smallville. Zod was so dope in MoS, I really hope Flashpoint brings him back.
 
I liked Zod and Faora a lot more than I did Kal-El. So did a lot of others. I think that's the problem. Superman should not be the least interesting character in his own movie. That's also what ruined Superman Returns.
 
Broddie;c-10129123 said:
I liked Zod and Faora a lot more than I did Kal-El. So did a lot of others. I think that's the problem. Superman should not be the least interesting character in his own movie. That's also what ruined Superman Returns.

Faora vs Wonder Woman would be awesome. All the studios have the same issues with killing off villains. Justice League could have easily been Zod and his crew with Steppenwolf
 
Idiopathic Joker;c-10129129 said:
Broddie;c-10129123 said:
I liked Zod and Faora a lot more than I did Kal-El. So did a lot of others. I think that's the problem. Superman should not be the least interesting character in his own movie. That's also what ruined Superman Returns.

Faora vs Wonder Woman would be awesome. All the studios have the same issues with killing off villains. Justice League could have easily been Zod and his crew with Steppenwolf

There's still hope for a Faora return. She was sucked back into the Phantom Zone or whatever the hell they call it in the DCEU.
 
Broddie;c-10129133 said:
Idiopathic Joker;c-10129129 said:
Broddie;c-10129123 said:
I liked Zod and Faora a lot more than I did Kal-El. So did a lot of others. I think that's the problem. Superman should not be the least interesting character in his own movie. That's also what ruined Superman Returns.

Faora vs Wonder Woman would be awesome. All the studios have the same issues with killing off villains. Justice League could have easily been Zod and his crew with Steppenwolf

There's still hope for a Faora return. She was sucked back into the Phantom Zone or whatever the hell they call it in the DCEU.

They should have had Superman trying to send them back to the phantom zone but instead they go to Apokolips.
 
Cain;c-10129136 said:
Did anyone notice that MOS and Justice League had the same storyline? Both had two world killing machines trying to terraform Earth

Makes sense. With trilogies part 3 usually retreads the basic plot of the original movie (BTTF 3, TDKR etc)
 
Idiopathic Joker;c-10129152 said:
I think DC Films will be fine, unless they bring in some wacky characters like granny goodness or some shit

That's actually a great and very dark character. Quirky and nuts but still tactical and able to whoop ass. Basically a slave trafficking narccisstic army general/brothel madam. Snyder would've loved her.
 
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There's one rule everybody who reads comic books has known their whole life. There are no wack characters. Just wack creators. Even Captain Carrot and The Zoo Crew had some incredible stories under the right writers.
 
Broddie;c-10129102 said:
People even prefer the TV guy on CW right now because he's written the way Superman at his best has been written. Yet he's not a Reeve clone. Still undeniably Superman. Stop getting mad at other performances that people prefer over your boys. It's not healthy. Holla at Cavill on social media and ask him to demand better material to work with.

While all your points may be true I'll still say cavill is a good superman. I'd say second best. I like hisi performance he's like a live action version of the tim Daly superman from the wb animated series.
 
Broddie;c-10129155 said:
Idiopathic Joker;c-10129152 said:
I think DC Films will be fine, unless they bring in some wacky characters like granny goodness or some shit

That's actually a great and very dark character. Quirky and nuts but still tactical and able to whoop ass. Basically a slave trafficking narccisstic army general/brothel madam. Snyder would've loved her.

You can do a whole movie about apokolips and it would sell. They can take a b lister like Mr miracle and it would be a hit.
 
Broddie;c-10128976 said:
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Idiopathic Joker;c-10128120 said:
Just pay Christopher Nolan a shitload of money to reboot the dceu.

He's not interested. They already tried that years ago and quite frankly a reason they fucked up with the shared universe was stubbornly trying to chase the tone of his Batman trilogy thinking that was the answer. A tone that does not fit the DCU collectively at all and didn't really work for Superman.

The only tone people have ever seen Superman in is what Captain America was showed in The First Avenger. Nothing wrong with change. Nothing wrong with the current version of Superman, it's my favorite, tyre studios just ruin the films. If Nolan can turn Batman into gold, he definitely could have handled the rest of the dc universe.

You are in the minority. As evidenced by people complaining about MOS everyday 4 years later and most people saying that the one positive in JL was allowing Cavill to finally "play Superman".

Again Nolan is not interested. He doesn't like the traditional DCU. "Too fantastical". MOS was his idea of what Superman should be and a lot of people hated his "proto Superman".

Did people really hate his version of Superman though? Or did they just hate the overall tone of the movie?

Look at every popular comic book related message boards (comic book resources, superherohype, bleeding cool etc.) and see for yourself what their beef with it is. It varies from people to people but a lot of people really didn't like MOS and won't shut up about it to this day.

I'll take your word for it. I know there was beef with it. I just remember people whining about Superman killing Zod and causing a whole bunch of damage, basically dumb hit. I liked the movie though so I never got the complaints.
 
Alot of people nowadays want to root for the villain and feel short changed when the villain is given little development.

I could have given Steppenwolf 20 more lines and he would've been a fan favorite.
 
They don't really need to get to Darkseid ASAP though. Especially since the one Marvel villain influenced most by Darkseid will be rocking the MCU for the next couple of years.

They need to stay as far away from that as possible. Just focus on the individual movies for now. Reintroduce these icons to the general audience organically.

Don't rush anymore team ups & take it from there. Then when the demand for a team up actually comes up use the Legion of Doom/Injustice League.

At this rate they won't even beat Marvel to a multiversal crisis movie. So get off that, switch lanes and focus on simpler self contained stories that remind people why they should still give a fuck about Superman and Batman outside of them just being...Superman and Batman.
 
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