When cherrypicking goes wrong lol. I had Pacquiao winning, but he did bad. Pac is a HOF-er but he lacks fundamentals and ring IQ. He used to make it up with athleticism, but he pushing 40.
When you lack fundamentals and (solely) rely on athleticism this is what happens when you get older and those natural attributes start to fade. Jeff Horn tried to apply pressure, but he made alot of mistakes and all the A-level welterweights wouldn't have allowed this fight to be competitive. Jeff Horn's footwork was bad, his balance was bad. He kept leaping over exposing himself when he came in. He came in wildly (basically following Pacman) without a jab or head movement. Horn hadf no D. His technique left alot to be desired, his punches were wide AF. He ain't really did no significant damage. In certain spots he outworked Pacman. I'll give him that, but he ain't done much real damage and didn't land much clean.
Pacman is a vet. Why did he allow a novice/ C-level boxer to bully him around the ring? He supposed to know better than that. Jeff Horn kept pushing his head down and making Pacman carry his weight. No inside game whatsoever and no ring generalship from a HOF-er. Apart from round 9 Pacman ain't really punish this C-level guy that shouldn't have even gotten this opportunity to fight him TBH.
I can see why Pac and his people didn't want no part of Bud, Spence or Thurman. He needs to focus on his political career and quit while he's behind before he tarnishes his legacy even more.
When you lack fundamentals and (solely) rely on athleticism this is what happens when you get older and those natural attributes start to fade. Jeff Horn tried to apply pressure, but he made alot of mistakes and all the A-level welterweights wouldn't have allowed this fight to be competitive. Jeff Horn's footwork was bad, his balance was bad. He kept leaping over exposing himself when he came in. He came in wildly (basically following Pacman) without a jab or head movement. Horn hadf no D. His technique left alot to be desired, his punches were wide AF. He ain't really did no significant damage. In certain spots he outworked Pacman. I'll give him that, but he ain't done much real damage and didn't land much clean.
Pacman is a vet. Why did he allow a novice/ C-level boxer to bully him around the ring? He supposed to know better than that. Jeff Horn kept pushing his head down and making Pacman carry his weight. No inside game whatsoever and no ring generalship from a HOF-er. Apart from round 9 Pacman ain't really punish this C-level guy that shouldn't have even gotten this opportunity to fight him TBH.
I can see why Pac and his people didn't want no part of Bud, Spence or Thurman. He needs to focus on his political career and quit while he's behind before he tarnishes his legacy even more.
You there's gonna be a rematch and maybe even a trilogy vs. this C-level guy that no'one heard of before this fight was announced. While an L against competition of Horn's caliber doesn't look good, it legitimizes Pacman fighting this bum again (and maybe even a trilogy). There won't be public demand for a match against a real A-level ww like Thurman or Spence or even a 140-er like Bud. It might be a fix.
Imagine Horn coming in all wild and wide with no D/ head movement or jab against any of the A-level ww's. That fight wouldn't go the distance. This fight was BS and showed us what we already knew. It exposed Pacman's vulnerebilities and defects. No D, no ring generalship/ ring IQ, no (basic) understanding of range whatsoever, no jab, lacking fundamentals, only relying on that left hand etc.
lol @ One of these commentators saying that fight was more entertaining that #maypac. Ofcourse it was to a dumb casual. Both fighters had no D. It's funny how they keep bringing up the real TBE when he has nothing to do with the situation at hand...
Imagine Horn coming in all wild and wide with no D/ head movement or jab against any of the A-level ww's. That fight wouldn't go the distance. This fight was BS and showed us what we already knew. It exposed Pacman's vulnerebilities and defects. No D, no ring generalship/ ring IQ, no (basic) understanding of range whatsoever, no jab, lacking fundamentals, only relying on that left hand etc.
lol @ One of these commentators saying that fight was more entertaining that #maypac. Ofcourse it was to a dumb casual. Both fighters had no D. It's funny how they keep bringing up the real TBE when he has nothing to do with the situation at hand...
playmaker88
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shit was funny all the same shit Teddy was saying about Horn im sitting there like you could say the same about pac.. with his haily mary left hands he was throwing.
playboy buddy rose
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Sometimes a loss isn't a bad thing ... pac will make even more money in tha rematch especially if its in Australia.
Pacman got another big payday coming. I wouldn't wven waste time on a rematch cause even if he win, theyll just say he shoulda won the first time. Let him go out on his shield and face one of the young lions, get paid....at least whatever left after Arum rape his check.
Pac is stuck. Arum don't want him to be sacrificed to Crawford he doesn't have anymore legit Mexican fighters to feed Manny Vargas was the last one. Arum don't wanna work with al Haymon who has the other top welters... so we stuck with horn smh. God blessed him with karma cuz arum did the same shit with the bradley fight
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aneed123;c-9863597 said:
Arum is an idiot. Coulda used Pacquiao as a stepping stone for Crawford's career. Now Pac has lost 2 of his last 4 fights so it won't even be as good of a look for Bud if they were to fight next because people will just say "Pac is washed anyway, look at his last fight". He did good against Vargas and he's on his way out so it's basically a missed opportunity for Arum. He's not promoting Crawford as good as he could be.
buttuh_b;c-9863611 said:
He thought horn would get the win and become a star like he did with pavlik. He may let Crawford fight horn is folk don't want the horn trilogy but he wasn't gonna let 2 black fighters come up off Manny name. He already did it with bradley. It's fucked up boxing politics as usual. A shame porter Khan Thurman Spence Garcia broner etc... will never get the opportunity to fight Manny or bradley
aneed123;c-9863650 said:
I just can't see how Arum could possibly see Horn fight and think he has an opportunity to be a long term cash cow like Crawford has the potential to. Crawford has the skill and personality to be that guy if promoted right. They could build up a fight between him and Spence in 2 or 3 years that could be a huge PPV draw if they put him in with Pacquiao and maybe Amir Khan. Who does Top Rank have now that's really gonna be a superstar? Lomachenko is in too small of a weight class. Felix Verdejo? They tried to pump Gilberto Ramirez haahaa. Shakur Stevenson has a long way to go. Fuck race, Scammer Bob better get that money. I know he getting old.
playboy buddy rose
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I been tellin you guys that Crawford got ta clean up the mess outside tha ring .... is tha talent there yes but as a promoter arum is going ta be a Lil skeptical about making Crawford his new cash cow
international
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aneed123;c-9863268 said:
hope he gets the clue and leave that cac arum...
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