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R.D.;7534715 said:We not comparing Pavlik and GGG but Pavlik beat nobody but Taylor and Miranda
Pavlik had already let B Hop trick him into coming up and was an alcoholic when Martinez fought him
and Pavlik was on his way to still beating Martinez until he got cut
nycest_1;7534699 said:R.D.;7534617 said:nycest_1;7534574 said:D. Morgan;7534566 said:nycest_1;7534462 said:D. Morgan;7534454 said:nycest_1;7534446 said:D. Morgan;7533968 said:MR.CJ;7533689 said:ESPN top 10 p4p rankings
1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Marquez
4. Bradley
5. Rigondeaux
6. Golovkin
7. Gonzalez
8. Klitschko
9. Kovalev
10. Cotto
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/11860272/kovalev-makes-top-10
No fucking way that list is legit with Marquez at #3 and Cotto being in the top 10. WTF kind of shit is that?
cotto deserves at least 10 for the milestone and being the top dog at 160
We both know Cotto is not the best fighter at 160 so he can't be top dog. Being the lineal champ doesn't mean you are the best fighter at a certain weight class.
you beat the best it means you are the best. granted you this is until proven otherwise but you can't just deny someone the top spot after beating the best
At that point in his career Martinez wasn't the best though. I'm not trying to downgrade Cotto beating Martinez by any means just stating what I feel are factual details of the situation. If Cotto fought and beat GGG at 160 I would say he is the best. I would say that because GGG would be the best fighter at 160 Cotto has faced and Cotto would be the best opponent GGG has faced by leaps and bounds.
I'm not 100% sold on GGG but my eyes tell me he is better than Peter Quillin and others like him at 160.
martinez resume at 160 shits on GGG at 160.
GGG best fights are against guys martinez already beat. i mean its a p4p list. a guy who actually moved to different weight classes and won is proving he is a champ p4p
HOW SWAY?
who Martinez beat at 160 that his resume shits on GGG
Paul Williams(that was two 154ers fighting at 160)
Alcoholic Pavlik ?
Chavez who everybody expected him to beat
Yall gotta stop rewriting history
pavlik who was the man at 160 (taylor wasn't 160)
his defenses at 160 were against guys GGG would go on to fight later. GGGs best win does not compare to pavlik who was lineal champ. as a matter of fact GGG best wins were against guys martinez had already beaten.
what history is being rewritten?
name me a fighter GGG has beaten better than pavlik
R.D.;7534715 said:We not comparing Pavlik and GGG but Pavlik beat nobody but Taylor and Miranda
Pavlik had already let B Hop trick him into coming up and was an alcoholic when Martinez fought him
and Pavlik was on his way to still beating Martinez until he got cut
playmaker88;7535316 said:Briggs is a bum
aneed123;7535497 said:Briggs may be a "bum" but out side of Wider and Stivernne(they gotta fight each other) he is the next best option cuz of hype and his antics sorta how Chisora was when he got his fight with Wlad and Haye. and atleast Briggs has legit power and wont be so undersized altho his asthma will be an excuse lol