The Official Boxing Thread

[2stepz_ahead]

maaaaan fukk pac...

he still hasnt did shit to deserve to be brought up with mayweather name.

nigga need to stay of the shit first

 

[Muhannad]

@Muhannad X you see how fans/some media saying Bones Jones scared cause he want the fight pushed back a month smh

Yeah. Whatever he does they'll find some BS to diminish his accomplishments. I've heard 'em use his reach against him. I've heard 'em say he shouldn't have dropped Machida after he choked him out. These people are silly in their hate. Just come out and say you want a white or non-black champ and be done with it.

Same with PBF in boxing. PBF = running, a white boy doing the same with less science = smart fighter. They looking for sh*t to hate on, but I'm not complaining. It does take away from the sport. Apart from the racial undertones alot of fans don't understand the game at all and same goes for commentators and even bias boxers. Look at the hate Rigondeaux got for giving a clinic to Donaire. Look how they hype fighters when they got one thing like how they hype Donaire's left hook and how they wanna hype GGGolovkin's punching power. The same thing they did with Matthysse. When they lose they'll hop off their dick calling them limited when they gassed 'em in the first place. They hyped Amir Khan's athleticism as well. Sadly enough some fighters started to believe their own hype and paid the price. Way too much politics in boxing. That's part of the reason it fell off like it did.

 

[perspective@100]

You cats really keep repeating this "boxing fell off" shit when in all actuality its more fighters worthy of watching in a variety of weight classes than I can remember ever in history lol... Niggaz like Rigo aint even 130 soaking wet. The heavy weight division may have fallen off but the heavy weight division dont make boxing imo...

 

[Mastery]

Boxing NEVER fell off, period.

 

[playmaker88]

Pac wouldn't get in the ring with an Ortiz let alone a Ghost.....Canelo forget about it

 

[aneed123]

Pac wouldn't get in the ring with an Ortiz let alone a Ghost.....Canelo forget about it

As folk say floyds comp was weak Manny would have have tough fights with Ortiz guererro and canelo

 

[mdot]

Manny wouldn't have a problem getting in the ring with Ortiz or Guerrero. Maybe Canelo yeah because he's 154 pounder.

Ortiz is a known quitter and his best win is against Berto who turned out to be a disappointment.

Guerrero was a legitimate opponent he moved up to 147 had a couple of wins and that was Floyd's comeback fight.

 

[Big Kola]

Manny wouldn't have a problem getting in the ring with Ortiz or Guerrero. Maybe Canelo yeah because he's 154 pounder.

Ortiz is a known quitter and his best win is against Berto who turned out to be a disappointment.

Guerrero was a legitimate opponent he moved up to 147 had a couple of wins and that was Floyd's comeback fight.

Manny is too small for those guys, trust me I doubt they would risk him talking a loss again. Ortiz would walk through Manny punches. Canelo asked for Manny his camp told him to go find a junior middleweight. If you really study boxing you see that Manny at 147 is only affective at catchweights.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

so pac would fight floyd but wouldnt risk losing again to ortiz, ghost or canelo......but he deserves floyd?

yep

 

[R.D.]

So we going act like Manny ain't fight Margarto

 

[dc's teflondon]

manny's camp desperate for a mayweather fight now..roach talking out his ass usual

 

[mdot]

Manny wouldn't have a problem getting in the ring with Ortiz or Guerrero. Maybe Canelo yeah because he's 154 pounder.

Ortiz is a known quitter and his best win is against Berto who turned out to be a disappointment.

Guerrero was a legitimate opponent he moved up to 147 had a couple of wins and that was Floyd's comeback fight.

Manny is too small for those guys, trust me I doubt they would risk him talking a loss again. Ortiz would walk through Manny punches. Canelo asked for Manny his camp told him to go find a junior middleweight. If you really study boxing you see that Manny at 147 is only affective at catchweights.

Bro Josesito Lopez a 140 pounder broke Ortiz jaw and Maidana made him quit. Manny woulda busted his ass up.

Manny fought Clottey/Margarito and those fights weren't that competitive. He also beat up on Cotto which was at a catch weight which I don't like but Floyd did the same shit with Marquez and Canelo.

Canelo is just too big some shit is just excusable just like I would expect Floyd to jump up to 160 and fight Triple G it would put him at a big disadvantage.

 

[mdot]

so pac would fight floyd but wouldnt risk losing again to ortiz, ghost or canelo......but he deserves floyd?

yep

I'm trying to get this straight you saying you don't think Manny deserves a fight with Floyd ?

 

[Muhannad]

so pac would fight floyd but wouldnt risk losing again to ortiz, ghost or canelo......but he deserves floyd?

yep

I'm trying to get this straight you saying you don't think Manny deserves a fight with Floyd ?

He doesn't really if you look at the facts without emotions. Even at the hight of its hype three years ago, I didn't really anticipated that fight. Would be easy work for Mayweather. Control this chink all day.

 

[Vader_F_Kennedy]

Good to get some healthy debates goin on in here

 

[mdot]

so pac would fight floyd but wouldnt risk losing again to ortiz, ghost or canelo......but he deserves floyd?

yep

I'm trying to get this straight you saying you don't think Manny deserves a fight with Floyd ?

He doesn't really if you look at the facts without emotions. Even at the hight of its hype three years ago, I didn't really anticipated that fight. Would be easy work for Mayweather. Control this chink all day.

I'm gonna go on record because I don't post here often. I've always felt Mayweather will beat Manny I thought maybe a chance by KO because Manny at his height was reckless he was just so athletically better than whoever he stepped in with he could get away with it expect Marquez.

I don't use emotion I use objectivity and my opinion from following boxing for a while. To say Manny doesn't deserve a fight with Floyd to me is a bit strange. His résumé warrants it.

Besides you think Ortiz or Guerrero deserved fights with Floyd over Manny ? You really want to see Floyd fight Amir Khan instead of Manny ?

 

[Vader_F_Kennedy]

Well with them being on different networks ots gonna be hard to get them to fight ..I know they did it before

Wit tyson amd lewis but this feels different especially since GB didn't leave on good terms....but I stopped caring bout this fight couple yrs back when negotiating broke down for the up teenth time ..if it happens great if not fuck it

 

[mdot]

Well with them being on different networks ots gonna be hard to get them to fight ..I know they did it before

Wit tyson amd lewis but this feels different especially since GB didn't leave on good terms....but I stopped caring bout this fight couple yrs back when negotiating broke down for the up teenth time ..if it happens great if not fuck it

Pretty much I actually didn't mind if I saw it or not thought Floyd would win anyway. This speaks to a bigger point too many middle men and egos and commissions not allowing the fights we want to see its bullsht

 

[playmaker88]

Everytime manny fights they bring up Floyd.. come on man.. dont fall for the hoodwink..

Brand association..

and yeah like RD said .. when They fought margs who fought an uninspired performance comeback fight they jumped on him.. knowing he was out of the game for a year plus.. Fuck out of here with that hes too small shit..

He wouldnt fight these cats because the have tools.. even ortiz ditzys ass would give him work not sayin Manny couldnt beat both of them.. But he absolutely doesnt step in the ring with Canelo

 

[2stepz_ahead]

@mdot

honestly...i don't floyd has any competition right now. but the pac thing is a little different.

when pac seemed to have the fire under him and was in the spotlight....he didnt want to bend to make the fight claiming hes afraid of needles. and even sued floyd to prove the point of him not using steroids but never sued anyone else that said it. Pac could do no wrong. then bradley won the fight no matter is it was a goft or not.....bradley had to fade away and people treat him like he did something wrong. but people still praised pac. it didnt matter that pac was given gifts all that mattered was pac really won the fight.but pac didnt feel it was necessary to havew a rematch to get his belts back cause they mean nothing.

then pac decided to fight the same guy a fourth time. this time getting KO'd and taking off a year.

both these loses seem to come after his wife threatened to leave him and he found God and got his system clean.

then all of a suden he wants to take the test. if you are afraid of needles then it i what it is....you cant change up now you are on the decline. but it's exceptable because its pac.

it looks to me pac wants to cash out and wants to fight may to get as much cash as he has ever made because his career is not at its peak anymore.

that brings me to this.

how can pac as for 50/50 when he has loses and more controversy to his record? may has 1 fight that could be questionable but people give the power to pac.

how can you be KO'd and still think you have something to say when negotiating with a champ?

what notable wins does Pac have in the last three years that makes him think floyd needs him?

so thats why i don't think may should fight Pac. cuz even when he wins...he still loses. and if he loses ...his whole career will be defined by it. and either way he helps out pacs records, fanbase and bank account.

yet he didnt want shit to do with floyd when he was the shit

its a no win situation for floyd