The Official Biggie Vs Jay-Z Thread...

[rip.dilla]

that's my whole point.your argument is based off "if suge didn't kill him". i'm just going off the music that's here. unfortunately we didn't see what big can do over a long career. but we saw Jay become more versatile and grow as an artist. but catologue for catologue Jay>>>>Big

How???................

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Lets address what really happened.

-Big was crushing the game in the most competitive era in hip-hop to date.

-the amount of talent that existed in that timeframe was historical, and Big was still the one to shine.

-Big only released 2 albums--and those 2 albums are classic. (timeless)

-Even all those years ago Big had started his own Clothing company giving rappers another avenue to generate cash. (Brooklyn Mint)

-Big was leaving Bad Boy to start his own label after Life After Death, another staple rappers today try to secure.

So f*ck what could have been, it is what it is. Give Big another 10 years and he would own hip-hop today.

So yet another he was going to but did not argument...

 

[BEONDON]

c/s @ n.mcfly

 

[jek]

that's my whole point.your argument is based off "if suge didn't kill him". i'm just going off the music that's here. unfortunately we didn't see what big can do over a long career. but we saw Jay become more versatile and grow as an artist. but catologue for catologue Jay>>>>Big

Well if you know all that then how can you truely make a FAIR comparision? Ya'll actin like yall want Big to do some recording in Heaven or Hell to keep up with Jay. All at scull and bones studio N shit tryna spirit rap.How is that Big's fault that Jay Z has the Longer jevity? He cant do nothing about that. Make the shit fair and compare both they first 2 albums then.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Well if you know all that then how can you truely make a FAIR comparision? Ya'll actin like yall want Big to do some recording in Heaven or Hell to keep up with Jay. All at scull and bones studio N shit tryna spirit rap.How is that Big's fault that Jay Z has the Longer jevity? He cant do nothing about that. Make the shit fair and compare both they first 2 albums then.

Which is actually the point Biggie cannot keep up with Jay he is Dead Jay is Living, Jay has far passed him because of that plain reality and many other factors, Life and Death are not fair they are what they are though...

 

[5th Letter]

So why did you choose Biggie exactly? Why not compare another dead rapper to somebody else living?

 

[Pretty Fred]

So yet another he was going to but did not argument...

What did he not?

 

[dnyce215]

how can you say biggie is better than jay and he ain't had but 2 albums?

you sayin 2 albums worth of music is better than all the music in a 15 year career?

thats why i'm sayin this comparison shouldn't be made

I understand that a 15 year career can't compare to 2 albums but biggie's short time here on earth, his catalog is one of the best in a short span of time I think so.... but all in all a comparison can't be made

 

[dnyce215]

Why would you wonder why people disagree? Well let's see...I can tell you why I disagree. Jay had years to hone his skills or whatever (if you ask me he's REGRESSED lyrically if anything) If Big was alive still how you know his shit wouldn't have "progressed" also? Jay has Big and Pac dying to thank for being a mainsteam success because Jay came out not too much later than those guys. If jay was the man like that then how come he wasn't this suceessful when both those guys were alive. Who niggaz married to got nothing to do with who's better. Give Big 15 years instead of gettin gunned down after 3 and he woulda had the money and everybody got labels today so im sure Big woulda had one (with Jay probably on it LOL)

C/S 100% niggas in my area swear jigga is goat and most of them niggas probably ain't cop reasonable doubt when it first came out, jigga was a rapper who just came out and nobody paid attention to, til after big and pac died years later! Same thing I was thinking

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

how can you say biggie is better than jay and he ain't had but 2 albums?
you sayin 2 albums worth of music is better than all the music in a 15 year career?
thats why i'm sayin this comparison shouldn't be made

well they have to be compared they are from the same era area and have similar styles of Rhyme who else makes a better Comparison then these 2? It seems that Jigga has to battle a ghost with Biggie which means he can never slay his competition. As far as the other Kat talking about Jigga being a fan, a true fan will try and do what there object of admiration did and improve upon it, Look at either MJ or Usher or Lebron or Kobe as examples of admiration taken to the next level...

So why did you choose Biggie exactly? Why not compare another dead rapper to somebody else living?

Reading is fundamental...

 

[5th Letter]

The reason i ask this question is because it seems to be an undercover Big bashing thread, and we know how you feel about Big already, so why not compare another dead rapper to a living rapper using that same criteria?

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

The reason i ask this question is because it seems to be an undercover Big bashing thread, and we know how you feel about Big already, so why not compare another dead rapper to a living rapper using that same criteria?

So instead of reading to find the answer you ran with a loaded question, How about this question why do you not make some other dead rapper comparison thread if that is what you wish to discuss? Always with the fantasy shit man you kats never amaze me...

 

[5th Letter]

Big fathered the style that Jigga used to get rich.

At no point in Jay's career was he ever as good as Big in his day.

Jay used Big's blueprint to craft his albums, the whole multi singles on the album idea (Life After Death)

In Big's era he was the man, he held down the east when the west was on top. He was also the face of hip hop at the time.

 

[isayas]

C/S this thread. Jay-Z is on the same level as Pac.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Big fathered the style that Jigga used to get rich.

At no point in Jay's career was he ever as good as Big in his day.

Jay used Big's blueprint to craft his albums, the whole multi singles on the album idea (Life After Death)

In Big's era he was the man, he held down the east when the west was on top. He was also the face of hip hop at the time.

Hmm I thought Kool G Raekwon and Kane did everything Biggie did in style before him and the rest is somewhat True but Jigga is doing it all better and then some. It is only natural that the living grow while the dead do not. Jiggas catalog can only grow and evolve and Biggie can only be judged by what he he has already said and done...

 

[5th Letter]

Hmm I thought Kool G Raekwon and Kane did everything Biggie did in style before him and the rest is somewhat True but Jigga is doing it all better and then some. It is only natural that the living grow while the dead do not. Jiggas catalog can only grow and evolve and Biggie can only be judged by what he he has already said and done...

The mafioso thing?

 

[eyes low]

take bigs only 2 albums and take any 2 albums from jay and hes still not messing with him

 

[thefocusman2]

Well if you know all that then how can you truely make a FAIR comparision? Ya'll actin like yall want Big to do some recording in Heaven or Hell to keep up with Jay. All at scull and bones studio N shit tryna spirit rap.How is that Big's fault that Jay Z has the Longer jevity? He cant do nothing about that. Make the shit fair and compare both they first 2 albums then.

Lmao @ the bolded. i thought that was hilarious. it was the T/S that made the comparison. i actually agree that you shouldn't compare the two. but if you do, Jay wins that's all i'm sayin.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

It amazes me how this is sucha controversial subject, The HipHop Community needs to get past this Taboo with anything Biggie related...

 

[Punisher__]

Soloman...you got the shield ready? Prepared for attack?

You know RAPmastermind is gonna come in here with a dissertation about why this thread is wrong....