The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

[kingblaze84]

50s first 2 albums>Jay Z entire catalog

Gunit total record sales>Rocafella total record sales

I love 50 but you're bugging on this one. No way is any album 50 made better than Blueprint 1 or Reasonable Doubt. Forgot about Dead Presidents huh? Jay-Z has talent no one really sees right now along with Eminem...and Jay-Z has more number one albums than 50 and Eminem.....let that marinate for a minute.

 

[KingNative]

I can never take away from what Jay done,but he's no Pac.

 

[chompollet]

The murder of Tupac Shakur said it best. Pac was the Marvin Gaye of rap.

 

[biggar]

All your really doing with this thread is proving Jay's point.. But you don't even realize that do you?

cosign

ALREADY!

 

[KingNative]

The murder of Tupac Shakur said it best. Pac was the Marvin Gaye of rap.

The Jordan of rap

The Elvis of Rap

The Brando of rap

Lol I've heard em all & he definatly is.

Jay may be getting comparisons to Pac,but who who doesn't nowadays?It seems like every rapper with a bit of talent is being compared to Pac.Same as all these young ballers in the NBA being compared to Jordan when they have a few good games.SMH

 

[innercity99]

of course pac rode jets.. but that makes my point even more relevant.. pac was a superstar that was in the hood with regular joes. where jay at

U comparen a 40 year old half a billionare rapper 2 a 25 year old 5 millionare come on nigga think just a lil its not that tough

 

[innercity99]

Everybody just try 2 ignore Tompetrez3 he's jay's illegitimate seed but jay just don't claim that nigga

 

[1CK1S]

jay-z the big daddy kane of rap

and ppl stop comparing current artist to past artist that shit sound so stupid

 

[tellemwhyumad]

first off relax ...

I had heard this shit a while ago but I just figured it was stupid gossip - old white cops or old white people in the media believing too much street bullshit and believing pac n biggie were real gangsters etc.. everyones probably heard the theory that puff/big paid the crips $1 million dollars to kill Pac and to use his own gun etc etc

but

then I saw online that it was reported in the LA Times and appears on many websites as fact .. i think its funny how news organizations are publishing information from unidentified sources as fact - but if this was something about a corporate CEO or a fortune 500 company it would be dimissed as pure hearsay, slander, and gossip and they'd probably be sued

is anyone else kinda offended by this or am i the only one who thinks its bullshit

heres some of the links

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/celebrity/shakur_BIG/3b.html

http://www.streetgangs.com/topics/2002/090602tupac.html

 

[harry knucklez]

I still dont see the connection between Biggie having Pac killed and Pac walking up to a Crip and beating him up at the MGM.

 

[youngnick]

I'm pretty sure Pac was worth more than $1 million to kill.

 

[musicology1985]

I still dont see the connection between Biggie having Pac killed and Pac walking up to a Crip and beating him up at the MGM.

well, the southside crips had already been beefing with the mob piru's (your usual compton turf shit). it just spilled over into vegas because both groups had a "violate on site" policy.

now, heres where it gets tricky. p diddy has historically been close to demetrius fleneroy (big meech-founder of the black mafia family). the bmf syndicate had a unit that operated out of the southside of compton. was this the same crew that fought the mob piru's from 95-98? who knows. but the connections are there.

also, p diddy was born into the combs crime family. his father was duke combs, close partners to nickey barnes and frank lucas. his cousin (last name combs) was an associate and possibly a member of bmf. he snitched a few years back for a lighter sentence. diddy also grew up with and retains a good relationship with gambino family capo andrew campos. so in other words, diddy is black mob royalty by birthright, irregardless of if he is directly involved or not. so it is not inconceivable that he can get someone touched. and probably for much less than a milli.

 

[musicology1985]

well, the southside crips had already been beefing with the mob piru's (your usual compton turf shit). it just spilled over into vegas because both groups had a "violate on site" policy.

now, heres where it gets tricky. p diddy has historically been close to demetrius fleneroy (big meech-founder of the black mafia family). the bmf syndicate had a unit that operated out of the southside of compton. was this the same crew that fought the mob piru's from 95-98? who knows. but the connections are there.

also, p diddy was born into the combs crime family. his father was duke combs, close partners to nickey barnes and frank lucas. his cousin (last name combs) was an associate and possibly a member of bmf. he snitched a few years back for a lighter sentence. diddy also grew up with and retains a good relationship with gambino family capo andrew campos. so in other words, diddy is black mob royalty by birthright, irregardless of if he is directly involved or not. so it is not inconceivable that he can get someone touched. and probably for much less than a milli.

my mistake. comb's cousin didn't technically snitch because he gave no info, he instead vaguely agreed to coorporate (whatever that means.) also, he is diddy's 1st cousin, was AN OFFICIAL MEMBER OF BMF and his last name is Taylor, not Combs. just a few corrections.

 

[chi-guy]

I don't believe Biggie had 2pac shot in Vegas, I think 2pac just got caught at that light by somebody who he stomped out. I do believe that Biggie and puffy knew about the 94 quad studio shooting. Biggie from brooklyn and allegedly the dudes who shot 2pac were from brooklyn. I also believe the connection between puffy and bmf had something to do with 2pac being shot the first time. Those LA Times people just looking to sell papers. I think the story the ran was trash. No sources, no facts, just their imaginations.

 

[kingblaze84]

Honestly, anything is possible. I love Biggie and Pac but I wouldn't put anything past Big....2pac was bragging about sleeping with Biggie's wife, who knows if that triggered a rage in BIG. Anything is possible, but I hope Biggie had nothing to do with it.

 

[musicology1985]

Honestly, anything is possible. I love Biggie and Pac but I wouldn't put anything past Big....2pac was bragging about sleeping with Biggie's wife, who knows if that triggered a rage in BIG. Anything is possible, but I hope Biggie had nothing to do with it.

I agree. but yet and still, the only way B.I.G. could have gotten it done is through Diddy. same thing with Pac, the only way Pac could make any "real moves" in this war was through Suge. thats why Suge & Diddy still living, they are by no means lightweights in this game of music industry surrogates.

 

[musicology1985]

I don't believe Biggie had 2pac shot in Vegas, I think 2pac just got caught at that light by somebody who he stomped out. I do believe that Biggie and puffy knew about the 94 quad studio shooting. Biggie from brooklyn and allegedly the dudes who shot 2pac were from brooklyn. I also believe the connection between puffy and bmf had something to do with 2pac being shot the first time. Those LA Times people just looking to sell papers. I think the story the ran was trash. No sources, no facts, just their imaginations.

so u are from the school of thought that the Southside Compton Crips of the 95-98 War are in no way connected to the Southside Compton Crips of the BMF Unit which was largely indicted from 05-09. U believe that BMF was involved in 94 but not in 96. interesting.

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

Pretty much 95% of what happened to instigate the murders and the shooters will never be known to anyone but BIG, Pac, Diddy, or Suge Knight. Anyone else who was involved will deny deny deny all the way to the grave

 

[chi-guy]

so u are from the school of thought that the Southside Compton Crips of the 95-98 War are in no way connected to the Southside Compton Crips of the BMF Unit which was largely indicted from 05-09. U believe that BMF was involved in 94 but not in 96. interesting.

Yeah that's what I believe and the school of thought I'm from is facts. Do your homework fam. I don't kno anything about all that connection stuff you talking about> i'm not even ffrom LA but I know half that trash yall write in them papers is lies. I don't care who was connected to who and when but the facts show that puffy had connections to bmf from way back when. Yeah it is interesting.

 

[UPTOWN]

I don't believe Biggie had 2pac shot in Vegas, I think 2pac just got caught at that light by somebody who he stomped out. I do believe that Biggie and puffy knew about the 94 quad studio shooting. Biggie from brooklyn and allegedly the dudes who shot 2pac were from brooklyn. I also believe the connection between puffy and bmf had something to do with 2pac being shot the first time. Those LA Times people just looking to sell papers. I think the story the ran was trash. No sources, no facts, just their imaginations.

if you had more info on this situation, you wouldnt have to "believe". what your posting here could be proved or disproved by fact (and it actually has), you just dont know enuff about it