The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

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king of nyc;237681 said:
how u figure, u know how much paper biggie made off jr mafia & lil kim
plus da commission was in works to blow da game outta dis world.

u realize dat after biggie died, lance un his partner sign a bigger deal then puff got from clive
Dumb Nigga he died and and his sales soared after Pacs Death the mainstream gave the airwaves to the east and he only got to see that shit for 6 months before he was murked and Puffy was laughing his way to the bank...

You Niggaz amaze me acting Like Biggie had any true power, Puffy ran the show he was just a big fat Tool that helped Puffy break bread and takeover truth hurts I know..
 
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DMX could just as easily have been a Death Row member as a Bad Boy member, it's in his autobio, he talked to both of them about deals but neither one was right. Granted he got on a bunch of songs with Bad Boy members, but think about this: DMX dissed 2Pac openly in a freestyle, said "Yo that nigga 2Pac can suck my dick." X and Kurupt also feuded because X fucked Foxy Brown who Kurupt was engaged to, then you had DMX and RBX go against each other because they both felt the other was ripping them off (I guess).

If Big and Pac had lived longer, Pac would have definitely had to deal with DMX; plus Jay-Z recorded and was about to put out a 2Pac diss that you can find on youtube. Nas said Biggie was trying to convince him to go against Pac with him; Nas and Mobb Deep were cool at that time, and this was before Jay and Mobb had beef like that. L.O.X. and Ma$e would have rode for Big too; G-Dep came on board right after that. Ruff Ryders would've ridden with DMX, and that's like 70 rappers right there. Along with CNN who were cool with Biggie and Mobb and already dissed the west coast on L.A., L.A. Granted some of these cats aren't the most lyrical but neither were a lot of 2Pac's boys...the point is it would have evened out. Snoop wouldn't even have gotten involved cause he's already stated he was neutral in the feud, obviously.

Of course this is assuming it would have even gone on that long.
 
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rapmastermind;238242 said:
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What could have been. Funny, Biggie and Pac were both Gemini's. They really connected and had amazing chemestry. Sadly that faithful day in late November took place and changed everything.

That's what the exactly I said.

I don't know but it's just me....In my opinion....I think if they're making the album together for a rap group......shit would be much better than Biggie and Jay-Z album together.
 
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A.R. Marks;238277 said:
DMX could just as easily have been a Death Row member as a Bad Boy member, it's in his autobio, he talked to both of them about deals but neither one was right. Granted he got on a bunch of songs with Bad Boy members, but think about this: DMX dissed 2Pac openly in a freestyle, said "Yo that nigga 2Pac can suck my dick." X and Kurupt also feuded because X fucked Foxy Brown who Kurupt was engaged to, then you had DMX and RBX go against each other because they both felt the other was ripping them off (I guess).

If Big and Pac had lived longer, Pac would have definitely had to deal with DMX; plus Jay-Z recorded and was about to put out a 2Pac diss that you can find on youtube. Nas said Biggie was trying to convince him to go against Pac with him; Nas and Mobb Deep were cool at that time, and this was before Jay and Mobb had beef like that. L.O.X. and Ma$e would have rode for Big too; G-Dep came on board right after that. Ruff Ryders would've ridden with DMX, and that's like 70 rappers right there. Along with CNN who were cool with Biggie and Mobb and already dissed the west coast on L.A., L.A. Granted some of these cats aren't the most lyrical but neither were a lot of 2Pac's boys...the point is it would have evened out. Snoop wouldn't even have gotten involved cause he's already stated he was neutral in the feud, obviously.

Of course this is assuming it would have even gone on that long.

You know what so funny?......Biggie Small had to get great emcees to go against 2Pac while Pac went against almost everybody New York rappers on his own and he even said their names while some NY didn't say Pac's name.
 
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darkrain;238319 said:
That's what the exactly I said.

I don't know but it's just me....In my opinion....I think if they're making the album together for a rap group......shit would be much better than Biggie and Jay-Z album together.

Don't get me wrong, I think "The Commission" album would of been Classic also cause Jay Z and Biggie had amazing chemistry and the 3 songs they did together, "Brooklyn's Finest, I Love the Dough, Young G's" were all Classics. But listen to the 5 tracks Biggie and Pac did. They matched so perfectly together. There styles clashed which is why every song they did together is a Classic and many rap fans are still discovering their materail together. 3 Songs and 2 Freestyles. I posted their whole discography together on Page 2.
 
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rapmastermind;238336 said:
Don't get me wrong, I think "The Commission" album would of been Classic also cause Jay Z and Biggie had amazing chemistry and the 3 songs they did togheter, "Brooklyn's Finest, I Love the Dough, Young G's" were all Classics. But listen to the 5 tracks Biggie and Pac did. They matched so perfectly together. There styles clashed which is why every song they did together is a Classic and many rap fans are still discovering their materail together. 3 Songs and 2 Freestyles. I posted their whole discography together on Page 2.

I didn't say "The Commission" album would be suck but I do believe it would be classic.

Don't get me wrong.....Jay-Z and Biggie had decent chemistry but both sound alike, all of those songs sound alike. I mean picture this.....can you imagine 2Pac + Biggie make a club song? They're going to kill THE CLUBS. can you imagine Biggie and Pac make a storytelling song? They're going to give you the GREATEST MOVIE.

Picture this.....If I make the weeds that you want some really good shit ever but you have to choose one weed....which would you pick? Ok.....I'll give you an example...I'll only doin this top one classic after another.

Weed One (Me Against The Word + All Eyes On Me + The 7 Day Theory + Ready 2 Die +Life After Death)

Weed Two (Reasonable Doubt, In My Lifetime Vol:1 + Ready 2 Die + Life After Death)

Which one?

Looking at 2Pac and Biggie Small albums, their albums are the greatest albums of all time but how in the hell Pac went from Me Against The World to All Eyes On Me to The 7 Days Theory and Bigge only had two greatest albums and can you imagine what the next their albums would be sound like?

My issue with Jay-Z, he always rap about himself, all of his albums sound the same shit...nothing new to me and bring nothing to the table and he's biting a lot of Biggie's rhymes (I don't care).
 
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rapmastermind;235971 said:
LOL, so according to this dude, Biggie sales would of dropped off, even though Lil' Kim was still selling, Puffy was still selling. Jay Z was selling. DMX was about to blow just a short year after Big's death, as well as Big Pun and Ja Rule. LOL @ "One Nation" with mostly underground non-selling NY artist seeing:

Bad Boy Family:

Biggie

Puffy

Ma$e

The Lox

Black Rob

Junior Mafia Family

Lil Kim

Lil' Cease

Junior Mafia

Charile B-more

Cam'ron (Eventually Dipset/Diplomats)

Roc a Fella Family

Jay Z

Memphis Bleek

Beanie Sigeal

DJ Clue

KanYe West

Foxy Brown

Ruff Ryder Family

DMX

Eve

Drag-On

Swizz Beatz

*Lox (They would of stayed on Bad Boy had Biggie not died)

Terror Squad Family

Fat Joe

Big Pun

Triple Sais

Cuban Linx

Murda Inc Family

Irv Gotti

Ja Rule

Vita

Queens Conections:

CNN (Nore said Biggie was going to be on the T.O.N.Y Remix)

Mobb Deep (Havoc said Biggie was going to be on their next album before he passed)

NaS (NaS would eventally joined the East Dynasty

South/Midwest:

Da Brat

Bone Thugs N Harmony

Uncle Luke/Too Live Crew

Westcoast

Too Short (Was in the car when Biggie died)

Producers that would of worked with this Dynasty: The Hitmen, D.Dot, DJ Premier, Lord Finesse, Trackmasters, Rza, Kay Gee, KanYe West, Neptunes, Timbaland (Aalyiah was on the Junior Mafia Album), Pete Rock, Trackmasters, Easy Mo Bee, Havoc,

And that's not counting the countless RnB stars that was allined with Biggie and Puff. The problem with some Pac fans is they believe The WHOLE game was behind Pac. Pac dissed way to many people to have the whole game behind him. It's a joke that "One Nation" would of seen this Dynasty. You are making yourself foolish. Nobody on "One Nation" was moving units but Tupac. Biggie and Puffy had serveral multiplatinum artist on their side. Biggie would of been fine, Pac would of eventually saw beefing wasn't the way to go and he would of changed his tune. But "One Nation" was not going to see Biggie.

u r delusional if pac was still alive nun of them artist wouldve neva probably blown up & u got it twist'd 2pac was not beefin wit ny or da eastcoast he was beefin wit BIGGIE & BAD BOY & da 1nation project is da proof u let da white man media confuse u.....

CASH RULES;236373 said:
Malice in Wonderland flopped so he's usin this as a publicity stunt to reach out to the east coast & biggie dickryder club no greece

hell yeah....suge should slap da dog shit outta snoop again da next time he c him fa sayin sumthang so stupid snoopz snitch azz wouldve neva made that comment if 2pac was still alive....FUUUUK JIMMY BONEZ!!

king of nyc;237604 said:
ha..ha…

one nation with a mediocre leader named pac, with a illrelavent group named boot camp click, and a bunch of wack niggaz named da outlawz….

come on homie –only a fucking fool would say one nation was gonna run shit & take over da east.

again homie –if u roll with pac dats cool, but when u lie: its only proves dat pac fans are da most delusional people in da world.

do u really think niggaz on da east coast would have rolled with pac.

have u eva heard dis before: where niggaz will pull ur card & argue all day who da best mc biggie/ jay z / nas

GTFH

WIT THIS SILLY AZZ POST I CAN TELL U R A 2PAC HATER.....CUZ A MEDIOCRE LEADER DOES NOT SELL 5 MILLION RECORDZ N 2 MONTHZ LIKE PAC DID WIT ALL EYEZ ON ME WHILE HE WAS ALIVE 2PAC WAS SHITTIN ON BAD BOY WIT RECORDZ SELLZ....DA 1 NATION ALBUM WOULDVE SOLD LIKE HOT CAKEZ @ IHOP & AFTER THAT 2PAC WOULDVE FLOOD'D DA STREETZ WIT ALL DA MAKAVELIZ PAC WAS SHITTIN ON BIGGIE & BAD BOY ONLY A DELUSIONAL FOOL WOULD SAY OTHER WIZE.....& 2PAC WAS BORN N NY & DA OUTLAWZ IS ALL FROM NJ & NY SO WTF DU MEAN WAT EASTCOAST KATZ WOULDVE ROLL'D WIT PAC?? AGAIN U R LETTIN DA WHITE MAN FOOL U 2PAC WAS NOT BEEFIN WIT NY OR DA EASTCOAST HE WAS BEEFIN WIT BIGGIE & BAD BOY & ANYBODY THAT WANT'D 2 SIDE WIT THEM...,,

rapmastermind;237655 said:
This is why I'm laughing at dude. Like I said, "One Nation" would barely go GOLD. Biggie had a strong fanbase as well as Puffy. Pac fans are living in a fantasy world if they think Pac had the game so on lock that Biggie would of lost fans. Wrong. Biggie was in his lane, Pac was in his lane. Also at this point Pac damn near dissed the entire East Coast, including popular groups like the Fugees (How did Lauryn Hill career go after Pac's death? Wyclef and the Fugees rode with Biggie). "One Nation" was not seeing Biggie or Jay Z. Pac would of dropped the album and again it would of went GOLD but Biggie and Jay Z "Commission Album" would of been going Platinum and having #1 singles. That's why I laugh at dudes saying "Biggie would of feel off". Are you kidding? At his death was the start of what would of been the Biggest Powerhouse Dynasty in Hip Hip History. Say it out loud: Biggie, Jay Z, Ma$e, Lox, Black Rob, Pun, Fat Joe, DMX etc, etc, etc. The West was on their last leg with Pac. Snoop was falling off, Dre was leaving the label. Dogg Pound wasn't hot anymore. The shift already happen with Biggie. The East was going to dominate, Big's death left the East in disarrary and they picked up the pieces with Jay Z and NaS but the fact remains. Biggie future was looking extremely bright. No matter what Pac said about Biggie, the fans would of embraced "Life After Death". You can't deny Classic material. LOL @ "One Nation was going to end Biggie", Yea a bunch of barely GOLD artist are going to end one of the titans of the EAST, OK.

JUST ADMITT IT U R A 2PAC HATER CUZ WAT YA SAYIN IS STUPID NOBODY ON DA EASTCOAST WAS FUUUKIN WIT 2PAC WIT ALBUM SELLZ PAC WAS A MEGA STAR SELLIN 5 MILLION RECORDZ N 2 MONTHZ WHILE HE WAS ALIVE,,,
 
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LOL, I'm not Pac hater. He's obvously one of the greatest of all time. Top 5 easily. But this thread is the truth. If Biggie truely wanted to, like Snoop Dogg and many rap fans already know. He would of ripped Pac Lyrically. You want to say some outlandish sh!t like "One Nation would of ended Biggie's career". LOL. So again in your fantasy world, all the fans would of hated "No Way Out" and "Life After Death", LOL. Big's future was set, the Sky really was the limit. I posted the Dyansty that was forming. You posting videos from Pac. Biggie would of had an Eastcoast ARMY behind him. Jay Z was going to blow an any reality you see. At the end the day. Biggie could rip Pac if he wanted to. Snoop is 100% correct.
 
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tompetrez3;237847 said:
u biggie stans keep living in your fantasy world. no matter what think biggie "would have done" the fact remains he didnt do shit and he made new york look soft as your king said. biggie was nowhere near new york during the heat of this beef. him, jay z, dame, puffy was hiding out in south florida. premier confirmed this. preme and puff got into a argument because puffy said the beats primo was working on was garbage and he need to step it up. preme said "he cant make NY beats staying in florida". easy mo bee always speaks about how scared bad boy was during that whole time working on LAD. D Dot, Harve Pierre all of them niggas will tell you bad boy located to florida during 1996 because the feared death row and pac. pac was going to new york to work with his east coast niggas. they wasnt coming to cali. dru ha will tell you how dpg and pac bunked at his house when they were recording 1 nation. tek and steele had pac smoking blunts in brooklyn the same time hit em up was out. ny soft. yall had a chance to kill pac to make an example. what happens. your shooters fucked up and didnt finish him off in 94 and you send that sucker 4 love nas to central park to get big faced by pac in his own city during the height of the war. prodigy sound stupid "ill have the whole ny state aiming for your face". queens went to go meet with pac and let him live. softer than cotton. smh.

pac shut down all them niggas that was riding for big. he dissed ll and ll didnt say shit. he dissed brat and jd they didnt say shit. fugees didnt say shit back. chino xl didnt say shit back. jay z didnt say shit back. nas didnt say shit back. big didnt say shit back. so nobody cares about who was riding for big cause they were all cowards. nobody spoke on pac except for mobb deep. and fuck subliminals cause pac made it clear as day who he was talking to. "this aint a freestyle battle all u cowards getting killed" lmao @ that nigga putting up that roster of pussy niggas that got treated by pac like they were supposed to be a threat. "the commision" gtfoh. u actin like jr mafia was pushing records. that shit went gold. thats it. nobody even knew shit about jay z then. r u fucking kiddin me. wow. mase and lox? who? they were regional niggas rhyming on clue tapes. smh. pac had the realest niggas riding with him out the east including G rap and Kane they recorded songs together for 1 nation, NBN, BCC, Latifah,Def Squad,EMB,Nice N Smooth,Das Efx. wu gave pac their blessings because none of them niggas liked biggie either. busta said he was staying neutral because he loved pac's music. biggie wasnt a beloved king by everyone. if you was listening to hip hop back then you would know that. biggie was an arrogant sob who burned bridges like 50 does. he came in the game dissing a whole lot of pioneers

LMAO...u got da audcity to talk about biggie fans are living in a fantasy world....LMAO again

listen up homie... u wrote too much bullshit to correct, but i'll just ask u 1 simple question -all dem niggaZ DAT U CLAIM PAC SHUT DOWN: how did they do thereafter

biggie went diamond 10x

puff went 8x plat

fugees went 8x plat

jay went on to sell over 20million units

nas went plat or better on every lp

modd deep & otherz went on to have solid careers

AGAIN... HOW DID PAC SHUT ALL THESE NIGGAZ DOWN...u would only think after pac died all would NOT support his ememies
 
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Fazeem Blackall;238254 said:
Dumb Nigga he died and and his sales soared after Pacs Death the mainstream gave the airwaves to the east and he only got to see that shit for 6 months before he was murked and Puffy was laughing his way to the bank...

You Niggaz amaze me acting Like Biggie had any true power, Puffy ran the show he was just a big fat Tool that helped Puffy break bread and takeover truth hurts I know..



u pac niggaz have da audcity to question biggie business power/moves while pac signed his life away on a toitel paper to suge & reportly died with less then 5g in his bank account

but, im not here to diss pac, he did what he had to do to get out of his situtation...

*i know u hate him with a passion & prayed for his downfall* biggie moves/power- R2D dropped in aug 94' LAD dropped march 97' dat a long time btw lp's... what do really think biggie was doing -he was making moves/power moves on building up his empire
 
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rapmastermind;238914 said:
LOL, I'm not Pac hater. He's obvously one of the greatest of all time. Top 5 easily. But this thread is the truth. If Biggie truely wanted to, like Snoop Dogg and many rap fans already know. He would of ripped Pac Lyrically. You want to say some outlandish sh!t like "One Nation would of ended Biggie's career". LOL. So again in your fantasy world, all the fans would of hated "No Way Out" and "Life After Death", LOL. Big's future was set, the Sky really was the limit. I posted the Dyansty that was forming. You posting videos from Pac. Biggie would of had an Eastcoast ARMY behind him. Jay Z was going to blow an any reality you see. At the end the day. Biggie could rip Pac if he wanted to. Snoop is 100% correct.

yes u r a pac hater cuz 2pac was a MEGA STAR biggie was just a RAP STAR therr is a big difference biggie was not sellin 5 million n 2monthz fresh outta jail thatz sum unheard shit n rap & still till this day biggie will neva c pac & that is a FACT....suge has so much tiez wit NY cuz he start'd DEATHROWEAST up again just a couple yrz back wit da dude that got nasty naz & PUSSY P shook LAKELY DA KID A QUEENZ NATIVE 2 DA DEATH!!...,,

[video=youtube;ofPWGH2QrCQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofPWGH2QrCQ[/video]

& FUUUK JIMMY JONES CUZ SNOOP WOULD NOT MAKE THAT STUPID COMMENT IF 2PAC WAS ALIVE SUGE NEEDZ 2 SNOOP AGAIN!!
 
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gee757;238850 said:
u r delusional if pac was still alive nun of them artist wouldve neva probably blown up & u got it twist'd 2pac was not beefin wit ny or da eastcoast he was beefin wit BIGGIE & BAD BOY & da 1nation project is da proof u let da white man media confuse u.....

hell yeah....suge should slap da dog shit outta snoop again da next time he c him fa sayin sumthang so stupid snoopz snitch azz wouldve neva made that comment if 2pac was still alive....FUUUUK JIMMY BONEZ!!

WIT THIS SILLY AZZ POST I CAN TELL U R A 2PAC HATER.....CUZ A MEDIOCRE LEADER DOES NOT SELL 5 MILLION RECORDZ N 2 MONTHZ LIKE PAC DID WIT ALL EYEZ ON ME WHILE HE WAS ALIVE 2PAC WAS SHITTIN ON BAD BOY WIT RECORDZ SELLZ....DA 1 NATION ALBUM WOULDVE SOLD LIKE HOT CAKEZ @ IHOP & AFTER THAT 2PAC WOULDVE FLOOD'D DA STREETZ WIT ALL DA MAKAVELIZ PAC WAS SHITTIN ON BIGGIE & BAD BOY ONLY A DELUSIONAL FOOL WOULD SAY OTHER WIZE.....& 2PAC WAS BORN N NY & DA OUTLAWZ IS ALL FROM NJ & NY SO WTF DU MEAN WAT EASTCOAST KATZ WOULDVE ROLL'D WIT PAC?? AGAIN U R LETTIN DA WHITE MAN FOOL U 2PAC WAS NOT BEEFIN WIT NY OR DA EASTCOAST HE WAS BEEFIN WIT BIGGIE & BAD BOY & ANYBODY THAT WANT'D 2 SIDE WIT THEM...,,

JUST ADMITT IT U R A 2PAC HATER CUZ WAT YA SAYIN IS STUPID NOBODY ON DA EASTCOAST WAS FUUUKIN WIT 2PAC WIT ALBUM SELLZ PAC WAS A MEGA STAR SELLIN 5 MILLION RECORDZ N 2 MONTHZ WHILE HE WAS ALIVE,,,

LISTEN... I AINT GONNA GO BACK N FORTH WITH U

CUZ IM USING FACTS & LOGIC UR USING FITION & ILLOGIC

BUT I JUST WANNA ASK DIS 1 QUESTIONS

WHAT LP'S WOULD HAVE SOILD MORE

'PACS- 1 NATION OR BIGGIES -DA COMMISSION

take ur L gracefully

-take dat take dat LLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
 
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king of nyc;239029 said:
LISTEN... I AINT GONNA GO BACK N FORTH WITH U

CUZ IM USING FACTS & LOGIC UR USING FITION & ILLOGIC

BUT I JUST WANNA ASK DIS 1 QUESTIONS

WHAT LP'S WOULD HAVE SOILD MORE

'PACS- 1 NATION OR BIGGIES -DA COMMISSION

take ur L gracefully

-take dat take dat LLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL

u r stuupid cuz im provin FACTZ 2 everythang im sayin u aint foolin nobody but ya self 2pac was a MEGA STAR biggie was a RAP STAR therr is a BIG difference if u cant c that u need 2 take biggiez dick outta ya eye...FUUK JM!!

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshheCd44E49Gz6Me2OX
 
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Hey Rapmastermind....Let me get this straight....if Biggie could handle Pac lyrically but why did he ask Nas, East Coast Rappers help to go against Pac and why no one stepped for Biggie and waited until Pac died?

And, Nas said that everyone was nervous about go to against Pac. his interview .... http://www.king-mag.com/online/?p=5357
 
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Nas Interview:

Going back some years now, did you expect Pac to call you the ringleader on Makaveli?
Yeah, honestly, I didn’t expect no less at the time. Pac now is Black Jesus in a sense; Pac is Lennon; Pac is Marvin. So, hell yeah, I love the fact that he starts his album off and says that about me. Hell yeah. I loved him before he died. I loved him before he said anything.

Did Biggie ask you to team up against Tupac?
Yeah, he called me. He said, “Let’s get together.” He said that everyone was a little nervous about it, but he was calling me about getting busy.

Why did nothing happen?
Getting me and Big in the same room wasn’t easy. I had just dropped my record, and my schedule was crazy. Biggie was in Miami recording Life After Death. It was just timing. We were supposed to get together and talk more, so who knows what would have happened.

Well, you guys were taking shots at each other.
On a song I did on my second album, Tupac thought it was about him, but it was really toward Biggie.

“The Message”?
[Nods] From the first lines all the way to “One life, one love, there can only be one king.” That was specifically going in that direction. The whole fucking song, really. Tupac was not even on my radar for going at him.

Tupac thought it was about him because of that line, “I got stitched up and left the hospital that same night.”
Nah, this is Queensbridge activities I am rapping about. I’m with dudes who have bullets in them, who just left the hospital, [and] we ride around smoking weed. So this is in my raps. We were in New York going at it. We weren’t even thinking about no other place—Cali, Georgia, nothing.

I didn’t think you were going at Biggie.

He did.
 
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thatdamnjay;238958 said:
too many would of's and could of's...plus I been on here too long, and we've had this exact convo in the Reason at least a million times...

R.I.P. Pac

R.I.P. Big

yeah the could have, should have, would have, got a lot of people deluded the simple fact is Bigge and Tupac are both Dead and Died before they could really enjoy they're Superstardom. Hip Hop has suffered for the losses on both side from Creativty and diversity to people and careers. This constant speculation just keeps everyone stuck and unable to move on, sometimes eveyone has to accept the fact that what is just is
 
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AntonLATroy;241982 said:
yeah the could have, should have, would have, got a lot of people deluded the simple fact is Bigge and Tupac are both Dead and Died before they could really enjoy they're Superstardom. Hip Hop has suffered for the losses on both side from Creativty and diversity to people and careers. This constant speculation just keeps everyone stuck and unable to move on, sometimes eveyone has to accept the fact that what is just is

That does not mean though the conversation is supposed to stop no growth can occur when people do not learn from the History the only way to learn is by addressing where problems occurred taboo or not. Your basically saying dead the topic but it is Important to not do that as I said we need to look past idolatry and recognise who did what when we are blaming a younger generation of rappers for doing the same shit. HipHop Has been Fucked up for years that does not mean I am going to turn my back on it I give a fuck and so do a lot of other thus we try to reach some level of understanding to make sure shit does not go Stagnant from ignorance...
 
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