The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

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H-Rap 180;2355054 said:
Some people just suffer from a lack of understanding.

Until you fully understand Cointelpro and the Shakur name you cant understand why people dont sallow the Kool-Aid.

Tupac was instrumental in th gang-truce of 1992
and he along with Mutulu Shakur created a "Thug Code", a code of ethics for street-hustlers. Now imagine one man having the power to bring warring gangs together and that same man has ties to the most fiercest, militant revolutionaries in America at his disposal and in his ear.

Thats dangerous.
This is the first I'm hearing of this, do you have a source for that?
 
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musicology1985;2355047 said:
Pac knew that the GOV was after him since childhood, but he still fell for the trap set for him in NY. His manager Watani warned him and BIG warned, but Pac was just doing too much and got caught up, made a deal to get out and got caught up again before going back to court. I do agree with others though that had he not got into that fight, he may have been able to fulfill those year 2000 political aspirations fresh out of the pen. He had what it takes and at 29/30, would have been more well refined to deal with the responsibilities of being the "premier" Shakur.

Also, Watani had to protect Pac from the Crips in his earlier career due to a dispute, but due to him no longer being Pac's manager after the prison release, he could not protect him the second time and neither could Suge Knight.

are you talking about when pac was knocking on people doors, to see who wanted to kill him?
 
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ustreet_monsta;2355538 said:
Everytime anyone says anything about Pac you get really sensitive. Nobody is bad mouthing your idol fuckboy. Calm down.

white boy please, just you homosexually active panzies get uspet bout your biggie, its irrelevant to me that you bad mouthing the nigga cause he definitely don't need no square ass white boy gaylias respect
 
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icame4wo;2357651 said:
It doesn't say Pac was instrumental in the gang truce but thanks for the link. I aint even know Pac was involved at all.

yea he was doing all types of stuff supporting the gang truce
 
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DanknDrank;2357689 said:
yea he was doing all types of stuff supporting the gang truce

In 1992 at the ‘Truce Picnic’ in Cali, Tupac was instrumental in getting rival members of the Crips and Bloods to sign the Code Of THUG LIFE.

He and Mutulu Shakur had helped write up the ‘code’ , with help from other ‘og’s’.

The Code of THUG LIFE is listed here.It details do's and don'ts for being a righteous thug and banger.

http://www.mutulushakur.com/thuglife.html
 
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lil kim is a dumbass corpse, and schwarzenegger was governor not mayor

tupac actually posed a thread to america but nobody important killed either one of them
 
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"Tupac was instrumental in th gang-truce of 1992"
I was looking at that statement from the perspective of Pac actually being instrumental to bringing about the truce itself which I wouldn't say the thug life thing did.
 
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Real talk someon answer this question. What was prevented by killing off Pac and Big? You know the motive behind the conspiracy. Give me a one sentence answer please.
 
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okaay;2358278 said:
Real talk someon answer this question. What was prevented by killing off Pac and Big? You know the motive behind the conspiracy. Give me a one sentence answer please.

FredHamptonBunchyCarterBobbyHuttonMarkClarkChePayn

Dude I dont even friggin know and none of my Black friends are around to answer the question.
 
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Cain_Marko;2358534 said:
bolded is for clarity
??? What exactly are hip-hop circles?? Does that include armed street organizations & militant revolutionaries??

numbaz...80's baby;2358580 said:
But niggaz went back to Bangin b4 he died.

What "niggaz", the ones in your city or the ones that signed the code??

@ LOL at a criminal record preventing someone from politics when Bobby Rush got a record longer than my love-muscle.
 
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Cain_Marko;2358857 said:
Yes brother Hrap it does.

Imma just be real...I killed Tupac becuzz the nicca was set-trippn' with my hood.

He shouldnt have been gang-banging and commiting Black-on-Black crimes against innocent women and civilians.
 
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icame4wo;2357751 said:
"Tupac was instrumental in th gang-truce of 1992"
I was looking at that statement from the perspective of Pac actually being instrumental to bringing about the truce itself which I wouldn't say the thug life thing did.

he was doing more than just that, he did speeches, cookouts, free concerts, charities, giving money to families ect... and contrary to what you believe that thug life code also played big part as well, it helped cease alot of drama in cali, and help bring cats together
 
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Well this must be "Middle Age White Women's Opinion On Hip Hop" Week. After Ashley Judd popped sh!t than apologized for calling Hip Hop "Rape Culture". It seems the wife of Coldplay front man Chris Martin is speaking on Hip Hop Two Biggest Icons. Coming off her remake of Cee-lo's Grammy award winning hit "F*ck You" which included a performance at the Grammy she givin her opinion on some of Music's Biggest Icons. She not only like Prince over MJ but she thinks Biggie was better than Tupac by Miles. Here's a snippet of the interview:

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@S_C_ giving journalists a run for their money with his newly launched lifeandtimes website. Today, him and his new found friend Gwyneth Paltrow launched interviews of each other on their personal blogs. Hov grilled Gwyn on his corner and she returned the favor on her blog.
SC Interviews Gwyneth

Shawn Carter: The public at large is discovering your ability to sing. When did you first discover you had that talent?
Gwyneth Paltrow: I kind of always sang. My mother has a great voice and was always singing jazz around the house and I think she passed on her musicality to my brother and myself. I sang in an a capella singing group and I always thought that somewhere down the line I would dust off my pipes and use them but I didn’t know I would be so old when it happened. When I sang with you one night at the Royal Albert Hall a few years ago, it was so terrifying. I thought that would be the end of it. This has been a surprise to me as much as anybody else. But I love it.

SC: Personally I was very surprised at your extensive knowledge of hip-hop songs. Particularly how you can sing ’90s hip-hip songs word for word. I can’t even do that! How does a girl from Spence discover hip-hop?

GP: I first was exposed to hip-hop when I was about 16 (1988) by some boys who went to collegiate. The Beastie Boys were sort of the way in for us preppie kids. We were into Public Enemy, Run-DMC and LL Cool J. But then I went to LA the summer between my junior and senior year of high school and I discovered N.W.A which became my obsession. I was fascinated by lyrics as rythym and how Dre had a such different cadence and perspective from say, Eazy-E, who I thought was one of the most ironic and brilliant voices hip-hop has ever had. It was an accident that I learned every word of Straight Outta Compton and to love something that a.) I had no real understanding of in terms of the culture that it was emanating from and b.) to love something that my parents literally could not grasp. But I was hooked. I can’t remember what I ate for dinner last night but I could sing to you every single word of N.W.A’s “fu*k Tha Police” or [Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock's] “It Takes Two.” Go figure.

SC: Does that extend to pop and rock music as well? Did you do the whole lace gloves circa Madonna and flannel shirts in the ’90s circa Kurt?

GP: I was never super into ’80s or ’90s pop. Aside from hip-hop I loved, I was very into alternative stuff like New Order (which did become pretty mainstream) and The Cure and bands like Yaz and Book of Love. But when Nirvana came out, my mind was kind of blown. I remember sitting around a record player playing Nevermind for days in a row with my college friends really mesmorized by that record, as everybody was at the time. I couldn’t believe my ears.

SC: Speed round: Miles or Coltrane?
GP: Miles
SC: The Beatles or The Rolling Stones?
GP: Beatles
SC: Patsy Cline or Billie Holiday?
GP: Billie H
SC: Biggie or PAC?
GP: Biggie by miles
SC:Michael or Prince?
GP: Prince!

SC: And finally, would you ever make a solo album?
GP: Would I ever make a solo album? Should I? Never say never


She sounds way more like a Hip Hop fan than Ashley Judd's hating a$$.
 
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