The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

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KillaCham.;230487 said:
Death Row was about to start beefing with themselves. Wasn't Pac tryna leave the label before he died?

Correct. When Pac got ready to leave Death Row and fired Suge's lawyer from his managing duties, people warned him it would get him killed. In order to show there was no hard feelings, Suge invited Pac out to Vegas to peep a Tyson fight.

You know what happened next.
 
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Swiffness!;230781 said:
Correct. When Pac got ready to leave Death Row and fired Suge's lawyer from his managing duties, people warned him it would get him killed. In order to show there was no hard feelings, Suge invited Pac out to Vegas to peep a Tyson fight.

You know what happened next.

there is a lot of conjecture on whether he was really leaving some outlawz say he was negotiating a better deal so his record label could be a sub imprint, as far as teh lawyer part he fired him because he was starting his own management company called euthanasia what would he look like having another man manage him when he was offering his services as a manager to artists. There seems to be this prevailing nature when it comes to Tupac where people rather believe rumour and disregard facts like statements from those in his inner circle. But again that was 14 years ago and this is a thread meant to show what? 96% The topics in this forum seem to only focus on Jay Z, Biggie, Eminem, Nas or Tupac in one way or another do you guys listen or talk about anything else HipHop Related?
 
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AntonLATroy;231658 said:
there is a lot of conjecture on whether he was really leaving some outlawz say he was negotiating a better deal so his record label could be a sub imprint, as far as teh lawyer part he fired him because he was starting his own management company called euthanasia what would he look like having another man manage him when he was offering his services as a manager to artists. There seems to be this prevailing nature when it comes to Tupac where people rather believe rumour and disregard facts like statements from those in his inner circle. But again that was 14 years ago and this is a thread meant to show what? 96% The topics in this forum seem to only focus on Jay Z, Biggie, Eminem, Nas or Tupac in one way or another do you guys listen or talk about anything else HipHop Related?

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real talk -snoop

pac was a cancer to hiphop... many west coast niggaz co-sign to dat .see cube. see ice tea. see davey d etc...

imma east coast head to da fullest, but im real enough to say dat a nigga like 50 who a nigga dat litterly from my hood iz a cancer too

so yall niggaz need to stop with all dis bias shit, and call a spade a spade
 
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rusty shackleford;229027 said:
and just like a bitch in the street with her hands on her hips.. you're bumpin' your fuckin' dicksucker about shit that aint got shit to do with you.. there aint anymore room on my dick so hop off & go suck ya momma, you pussy.

as you were.

That's the best you got faggot? If you act like a bitch don't cry when niggas call your sissy ass out on it. U Mad?
 
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KillaCham.;230487 said:
Death Row was about to start beefing with themselves. Wasn't Pac tryna leave the label before he died?

when 2pac came 2 deathrow he start'd ridin on dre cuz he was a fagggot so deathrow alwayz weed'd out da weak linkz on da row & if u look @ da date n that youtube clip it sayz 'sept 4 '96' so i dont think pac had planz on cuttin off deathrow no time soon especially da way he was talkin about deathroweast 3dayz b4 he got shot...plus pac was gonna start his own label makaveli recordz threw deathrow,,..
 
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& fa da katz that dont believe me about 2pac & deathroweast gettin @ nas n 96 n ny & da braveheartz was shook & suge want'd 2pac 2 slap nas yall can holla @ kadafiz cousin on his myspace & ask him about it cuz like i said b4 he was therr that nite wit pac n ny reppin deathroweast....

http://www.myspace.com/rahdib

2d6esn.jpg


^ rah dib is da 1 2 da left standin behind 2pac n that pik wit a white head band on or sumthang & da rest of da jerzey mob n ny n 96,,..
 
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gee757;229483 said:
but u act like pac was tryna hide his past 2pac didnt du that he was very open about his past i just dont c how big was gonna lyrically rape pac & big didnt either thatz y he neva really entertain'd da beef...

o yes it was cuz when 2pac wouldve start'd DEATHROWEAST katz on da eastcoast wouldve had 2 choose sidez & big was not strong enuff 2 stop pac & deathrow,....

[video=youtube;zNO1qjo5Ppw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNO1qjo5Ppw[/video]

^^ everybody standin behind 2pac & suge rockin them deathroweast shirtz was from NY & NJ that was da nite pac ran n2 nas n NY @ da mtv awardz...

homie u cant be dat stupid.... with a comment like dat: either u live in da boondocks, ur 16 yrs old or both

STOP speaking on shit u know nothing bout, its cool to be a fan but its uncool to lie about shit dat would have never ever ever happen
 
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I love Biggie, he's a legend and pound for pound a better lyricist than 2pac....but I truly don't believe Biggie wouldve gotten him. 2pac came very hard on Hit Em Up, yet Biggie never really responded till 2pac died....strange. I don't think 2pac would beat Biggie by a huge margin, but the fact Biggie never responded to 2pac when he was alive is very telling to me.
 
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BOSS KTULU;228253 said:
"Tupac sucked, let's keep it real."

---Snoop Doggy Dogg

Yo your ass needs to stay out of hip-hop forums.....stop the little kid shit, go join a Mickey Mouse forum or something. You're a straight clown faggot.
 
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RapMasterMinds knew what he's talking about.

Even Shock G said that Biggie would win the battle on the wax in the interview.

If it wasn't for Pac fucked with the wrong people then none of this shit would happen, both would be alive . I am not blame on Pac and I do understand where he came from, he just cannot trust no one when he got his first shot.

2Pac just hang out with the wrong people.

Honestly, I would believe 2Pac + Biggie Small album together would be greatest than Jay-Z + Biggie Small album together.

2Pac + The Notorious BIG = God.....both would be greatest chemistry.
 
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Are you a idiot or something

Biggie did rip pac lyrically, many times

Go listen to "who shot ya"....and "brooklyn's finest" frm reasonable doubt

"If faith had twins she'd prolly have two pacs.....get it....two....pacs"
 
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darkrain;233541 said:
RapMasterMinds knew what he's talking about.

Even Shock G said that Biggie would win the battle on the wax in the interview.

If it wasn't for Pac fucked with the wrong people then none of this shit would happen, both would be alive . I am not blame on Pac and I do understand where he came from, he just cannot trust no one when he got his first shot.

2Pac just hang out with the wrong people.

Honestly, I would believe 2Pac + Biggie Small album together would be greatest than Jay-Z + Biggie Small album together.

2Pac + The Notorious BIG = God.....both would be greatest chemistry.

nigga you retarded

Pac and Big are not God together and Jay+BIG>>>>Pac+BIG
 
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Thats Snoops opinion..... Lyrically....Big wasnt on Pac level........

Pac wasnt fucking with that Snoop....... Everybody knew that...

He was cool with Big and Pac....."Biggie didnt want it with Pac"-Snoop
 
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AntonLATroy;231658 said:
there is a lot of conjecture on whether he was really leaving some outlawz say he was negotiating a better deal so his record label could be a sub imprint, as far as teh lawyer part he fired him because he was starting his own management company called euthanasia what would he look like having another man manage him when he was offering his services as a manager to artists. There seems to be this prevailing nature when it comes to Tupac where people rather believe rumour and disregard facts like statements from those in his inner circle. But again that was 14 years ago and this is a thread meant to show what? 96% The topics in this forum seem to only focus on Jay Z, Biggie, Eminem, Nas or Tupac in one way or another do you guys listen or talk about anything else HipHop Related?

thatdamnjay;233430 said:
Pac was about to leave Death Row fam. Suge was fukkin with his money. this is fact, Pac's mother has even gone on record with this info.
2pacs mother went on record with this Huh? Last I read she was upset about his money's after he died which to my best recollection is what she actually went on record about, she even made the point of saying that she did not know his business moves before he died(Which is how she stymied attempts by the Outlawz to get joint recordings for there albums). His inner circle(the Outlawz) went on record about him renegotiating things like the other quoted texts says he was working out a deal with DeathRow and Rap-a-lot on a combined venture to create a sub imprint(Makavelli Records). He was specific in telling the Outlawz to not sign to Death Row or any label because that would undermine his deal he was working out. Afeni has made numerous position changes over the years on things but stayed consistant with doing whatever it took to keep Pac's Legacy from being bogged down by the blackballing of Death Row...
 
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king of nyc;233318 said:
homie u cant be dat stupid.... with a comment like dat: either u live in da boondocks, ur 16 yrs old or both

STOP speaking on shit u know nothing bout, its cool to be a fan but its uncool to lie about shit dat would have never ever ever happen

wat r u talkin about?? i got my info from da horsez mouf RAH DIB yaki kadafiz cousin he was therr that nite wit 2pac he can tell u that everybody rockin them DEATHROWEAST TEEZ was from NJ & NY....thatz y when pac ran n2 nas & da braveheartz nas was shook cuz rah dib said nas had about 10 braveheartz wit him compared 2 pac & about 30 deathroweast memberz & suge want'd 2pac 2 slap nas but pac didnt & they peace it up....this is no made up shit cuz again u can go ask RAH DIB cuz he was therr sept 4 96 n ny wit 2pac & seen everythang so u need 2 GTFOH wit that bs...,,

kingblaze84;233420 said:
I love Biggie, he's a legend and pound for pound a better lyricist than 2pac....but I truly don't believe Biggie wouldve gotten him. 2pac came very hard on Hit Em Up, yet Biggie never really responded till 2pac died....strange. I don't think 2pac would beat Biggie by a huge margin, but the fact Biggie never responded to 2pac when he was alive is very telling to me.

2pac was about 2 crush biggie wit da 1nation album,,,,

[video=youtube;FrCiv3jABJQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrCiv3jABJQ[/video]

^^^ da world would not understand y therr was eastcoast & westcoast katz rydin on big & bad boy fa 2pac pac was not playin wit biggie or bad boy he was really gonna run them outta da game wit da 1nation movement....katz on da east was gonna have 2 choose sidez that deathroweast movement wouldve just crush'd bad boy cuz they was not gangstaz fa real....biggie & puffy was not gonna bust no gunz & deathrow was all about that anybody that wouldve side'd wit biggie & bad boy wouldve got crush'd biggie just had sum of ny behind him while pac had dudez nationwide from ny 2 ca ready 2 ride fa him..,,,

thatdamnjay;233430 said:
Pac was about to leave Death Row fam. Suge was fukkin with his money. this is fact, Pac's mother has even gone on record with this info.

if that is tru how du u xplain 2pac talkin about a deathroweast on sept 4 96 n ny 3 dayz b4 he got shot n vegas?? that just dont make no sense @ all & how du u xplain 2pac havin his label MAKAVELI RECORDZ on deathrow?? cuz u can look on da MAKAVELI album & c MAKAVELI RECORDZ/DEATHROW on therr pac wasnt cuttin off deathrow no time soon...,,
 
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LOL, so according to this dude, Biggie sales would of dropped off, even though Lil' Kim was still selling, Puffy was still selling. Jay Z was selling. DMX was about to blow just a short year after Big's death, as well as Big Pun and Ja Rule. LOL @ "One Nation" with mostly underground non-selling NY artist seeing:

Bad Boy Family:

Biggie

Puffy

Ma$e

The Lox

Black Rob

Junior Mafia Family

Lil Kim

Lil' Cease

Junior Mafia

Charile B-more

Cam'ron (Eventually Dipset/Diplomats)

Roc a Fella Family

Jay Z

Memphis Bleek

Beanie Sigeal

DJ Clue

KanYe West

Foxy Brown

Ruff Ryder Family

DMX

Eve

Drag-On

Swizz Beatz

*Lox (They would of stayed on Bad Boy had Biggie not died)

Terror Squad Family

Fat Joe

Big Pun

Triple Sais

Cuban Linx

Murda Inc Family

Irv Gotti

Ja Rule

Vita

Queens Conections:

CNN (Nore said Biggie was going to be on the T.O.N.Y Remix)

Mobb Deep (Havoc said Biggie was going to be on their next album before he passed)

NaS (NaS would eventally joined the East Dynasty

South/Midwest:

Da Brat

Bone Thugs N Harmony

Uncle Luke/Too Live Crew

Westcoast

Too Short (Was in the car when Biggie died)

Producers that would of worked with this Dynasty: The Hitmen, D.Dot, DJ Premier, Lord Finesse, Trackmasters, Rza, Kay Gee, KanYe West, Neptunes, Timbaland (Aalyiah was on the Junior Mafia Album), Pete Rock, Trackmasters, Easy Mo Bee, Havoc,

And that's not counting the countless RnB stars that was allined with Biggie and Puff. The problem with some Pac fans is they believe The WHOLE game was behind Pac. Pac dissed way to many people to have the whole game behind him. It's a joke that "One Nation" would of seen this Dynasty. You are making yourself foolish. Nobody on "One Nation" was moving units but Tupac. Biggie and Puffy had serveral multiplatinum artist on their side. Biggie would of been fine, Pac would of eventually saw beefing wasn't the way to go and he would of changed his tune. But "One Nation" was not going to see Biggie.
 
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