The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

[rapmastermind]

Snoop saying that shit is hypocritical. I thought Pac was his best friend?

Snoop will always have love for Pac but I think he was just giving his honest perspective on the situation. Pac's beef with Big was personal but no matter what he said about Big, rap fans know, he was still sick. Snoop is just saying look, I love pac but truth be told, Big could see him so I thought it was pointless for all the disses. Basically Snoop wasn't a fan of the beef at all. It speaks volumes that he was with Big during the recording of Life After Death. And remember it was snoop that step to NY at the Source source "New York don't got love for Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg?, Ya'll don't love us? Let it be known?". Of course the "New York, New York" video where Biggie had goons shoot up Snoop and Dogg Pound's video trailer. But I guess that didn't mean Snoop didn't have love for Big. So Basically Snoop was admitting Pac died mad at him because of his friendship with Biggie. Damn.

 

[rusty shackleford]

Your non qualified...

i stopped reading there.. again, the irony of speaking on who's qualified for what when you haven't grasped the concept of when to use "your" as opposed to "you're.." lemme guess, did the cracker man make you that stupid, fazeem? seriously, your [

 

[illogics]

riiiiiiiiiight.. i hate to be the bearer of bad news here but again.. to take in the work without considering the person who created it is to dismiss both entirely. kinda sad if you ask me.. i never even considered ready to die a conscious piece of art until today.. [i appreciate that, Rap] one thing is clear here though.. just the difference in our veiw points speaks volumes on a lack of understanding when it comes to human nature.. or a willingness to understand.. take your pick.

either way, it won't change the fact that the album as a whole was obviously meant to scare the immpressionable away from that lifestyle.. not draw them into it. & as an artist myself [who's spit for recdord companies & was offered deals on the spot, can dj/mix & can paint immaculately in oils, acrylics, blood, charcole.. you name it..], i appreciate the skill it takes to create a piece which goes undetected as a work of consciousness for 16 years.. that's pretty clever...

I judge a RAP ARTIST based on his or her RAP MUSIC. It's really not a flawed way of thinking. It's a normal way of thinking. You never considered ready to die conscious after all these years of listening to it but now you do? Why? Because you got a backstory with it? lol. Call me crazy but I judge an artist on the CONTENT of their art.

I'll agree to disagree with your way of thinking.

 

[BOSS KTULU]

"Tupac sucked, let's keep it real."
---Snoop Doggy Dogg

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

i stopped reading there.. again, the irony of speaking on who's qualified for what when you haven't grasped the concept of when to use "your" as opposed to "you're.." lemme guess, did the cracker man make you that stupid, fazeem? seriously, your [

 

[rusty shackleford]

I judge a RAP ARTIST based on his or her RAP MUSIC. It's really not a flawed way of thinking. It's a normal way of thinking. You never considered ready to die conscious after all these years of listening to it but now you do? Why? Because you got a backstory with it? lol. Call me crazy but I judge an artist on the CONTENT of their art.

I'll agree to disagree with your way of thinking.

so you prefer to stay close minded & not consider what it took for the artist to get to that specific moment of creating? that shits sad as hell.. i mean, if you aint figured it out yet, the reason the worlds like it is now is because of a simple lack of consideration.. so hey.. @ least you can say you're true to.. a pretty horrible traditiion.. i guess. what's next, bringing slavery back?

 

[illogics]

so you prefer to stay close minded & not consider what it took for the artist to get to that specific moment of creating?

The decisions or steps a rapper takes in their personal life is just that...PERSONAL and often times doesn't even correlate with who they really are. Rick ross for example, Common could be a gangsta rapper if he wanted to given some of his background info. So why would I judge music on factors outside of music? It makes NO sense.

 

[AntonLATroy]

what is this obsession about over Biggie in here, I mean it is 13 years later he has nothng new to contribute he came and went let it go people

 

[rapmastermind]

I think at the end of the day Snoop made perfect sense about the situation. Pac was out of control near the end and it escalted the situation. Biggie was very talented and could see Pac so the disses were pointless. He also again said just off the sublinimals, He knew Big could get Pac. Another Rap Legend co-signs Big's Greatness.

 

[AntonLATroy]

I think at the end of the day Snoop made perfect sense about the situation. Pac was out of control near the end and it escalted the situation. Biggie was very talented and could see Pac so the disses were pointless. He also again said just off the sublinimals, He knew Big could get Pac. Another Rap Legend co-signs Big's Greatness.

Your Obsession and Love for Biggie is beyond scary man

 

[rusty shackleford]

The decisions or steps a rapper takes in their personal life is just that...PERSONAL and often times doesn't even correlate with who they really are. Rick ross for example, Common could be a gangsta rapper if he wanted to given some of his background info. So why would I judge music on factors outside of music? It makes NO sense.

see, you just don't get it yet.. to seperate what factors motivate someone to make certain decisions from the person & his/her artistic expression is like puttin' a sleeping bag over your head.. you owe the people around you more than that..

 

[rapmastermind]

Your Obsession and Love for Biggie is beyond scary man

Again I'm sorry if Snoops words hurt people's feelings but he said Biggie was seeing Pac. That's his opinion, the video speaks for itself. If you are mad, be mad at Snoop. Hell be mad at a majority of the Hip Hop fanbase that realizes Biggie was very ILL.

 

[illogics]

see, you just don't get it yet.. to seperate what factors motivate someone to make certain decisions from the person & his/her artistic expression is like puttin' a sleeping bag over your head.. you owe the people around you more than that..

Aight man. You got it, lol.

 

[rusty shackleford]

Aight man. You got it.

tell me about it.

 

[illogics]

Lol.......

 

[BOSS KTULU]

"Tupac was like the retarded kid that you pretend to be friends with because you feel bad for him."
---Snoop Doggy Dogg

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Again I'm sorry if Snoops words hurt people's feelings but he said Biggie was seeing Pac. That's his opinion, the video speaks for itself. If you are mad, be mad at Snoop. Hell be mad at a majority of the Hip Hop fanbase that realizes Biggie was very ILL.

LMFAO Are you serious? Snoop has nothing but envy for Pac since Pac outshined him and took his top spot at death row. He went from being Top Dogg to 3rd runner up and jumped ship with a group of kats doing their worst Pac imitiation in No Limit. Anything dude says is to make himself feel better about being so expendable at his career height to a dude he could not ever come close to matchi in any category...

 

[AntonLATroy]

Again I'm sorry if Snoops words hurt people's feelings but he said Biggie was seeing Pac. That's his opinion, the video speaks for itself. If you are mad, be mad at Snoop. Hell be mad at a majority of the Hip Hop fanbase that realizes Biggie was very ILL.

I was not talking about Snoop I was talking about your obsession for Biggie, you have a beyond the point of admiration like infatuation with him. I think you are far iller then Biggie even imagined he could be

 

[Swiffness!]

I've always believed that Biggie could've ripped Pac apart and probably would have had nobody died. Shit woulda been crazy. I'm mad it didn't happen.

 

[DarcSkies777]

And he's right. The problem is it doesnt matter because Pac shit on him and the lyrics were real and good enough. Pac didnt have to say, "I'll eat you like steak...etc etc etc." Pac was overall the better artist and Biggie was the better lyricist. Pac said more and meant more to the game then BIG did by far.

And PAC pretty much shit on dude hard and there was no coming back from Hit Em Up. Especially since a lot of it was probably true and BIG was still scared to go at him directly.