The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

[No Competition]

^i believe it cuz it makes sense

 

[CirocObama]

You guys believe Orlando killed him cause the streets said it? The streets is just a ghetto version of broken telephone

But the evidence leads to it. Honestly i think the reason why ppl are sceptical is because they figure that if Orlanda killed 2pac (which he really did), someone would've killed Orlando right after. I think that's the reason ppl started doubting it. But shit happens. That's why you had a a number of killings between the MOB's and the Southside and what have you the following weeks.

However i i'm pretty sure that Suge was behind Biggie's death tho. Just my opinion not facts.

 

[CrownChakra]

Yea, I guess everyone will believe a theory that make sense to them. But if you do research on Hip Hop and the Occult forces running the music industry it will open your eyes to the lil picture wrapped around the big picture.

 

[Old Fart]

You guys believe Orlando killed him cause the streets said it? The streets is just a ghetto version of broken telephone

yeah i believe the streets. What do you believe? the media? smh. The streets don't lie. Where you from??? You probably one of those muthafuckas who refused to beleive the nigga was dead like he was untouchable or some shit. streets is real.

 

[CirocObama]

Yea, I guess everyone will believe a theory that make sense to them. But if you do research on Hip Hop and the Occult forces running the music industry it will open your eyes to the lil picture wrapped around the big picture.

But what proof do they have? I mean i def think there's alot of forces runnin' the industry wheter it's dudes with mob/gangsta ties or whatever. But at the same time you can't trust those "facts" you read. That's like me tellin' you that the Power Rangers run the industry. Can't believe shit you read. All that "i've been in the industry so i know" tactic been done over and over.

 

[Old Fart]

The whole "shoot down human shield" idea is bullshit. Now tell me if you were trying to get a nigga killed would you be sitting next to him hoping the shooters are a good shot? Be realistic. You can say sitting next to him is a perfet alibi blah blah but in reality it is....who in their right mind would sit next to a man in a CAR which is not a lot of space, while they are getting shot? Bullets aint got no name

nigga i never said that. i don't believe suge had shit to do with it. Pac mouthed off and went at the wrong muthafucka to fuck with and got delt with. simple as that.

 

[Old Fart]

nah im agreeing with him I just quoted the wrong dude by accident

ok just saw this. thought you were saying i was talking about a conspiracy

 

[Scholar Jaw]

I dont know about Suge settin up Pac, but Puff definitely was atleast aware that Big was about to be killed.

Scholar droppin' knowledge

 

[harry knucklez]

I forgot but wasn't it Tray Deee who got his chain snatched and jumped?

Anyway this industry shit is beyond corrupt. I dont think i could make it. Not because i'm gullible or anything but because i'd prolly be paranoid and wouldn't wanna fuck with a single person in the biz on some cool shit.

But again errbody know Suge ain't killed 2pac. Suge prolly ganked Pac for alot of his grip but he didn't kill 2pac.

I think shit like this is why these artists keeps having the hood niggas with them in the industry cuz other wise they'll look at you like a sheep. But then their homies ends up turning on 'em..y'all know the same ol' story.

It's sad to see how much bad shit there is in that music/movie game.

It was Tray Lane, one of Suge's blood homies. Not Tray Dee (the OG Crip from the Eastsidaz)

 

[MR.CJ]

I dont know about Suge settin up Pac, but Puff definitely was atleast aware that Big was about to be killed.

Scholar droppin' knowledge

Puff knew that Big going to LA was suicide.

 

[harry knucklez]

I dont know if Suge set Pac up, but its been well documented that assilant's car pulled up a little ahead of Suge's BMW, which wouldve gave the shooter a diagonal aim that wouldve ONLY hit Pac. And another thing is that Pac didn't get shot in his head at all, he got shot in his hand, lung and his thigh, which the shooter probably shot him through the door instead of str8 through the window

And as far as Suge, theres been several inconsistencies about the "wound" he got on his head: Suge the claimed a was bullet lodged in is head, but the hospital claims it was a shard of glass. Theres pictures of him walkin outside of the hospital with a scar on the top of his head, but he then does an inteview and he walks about the "bullet" still being lodged in his head, he points towards that back of his neck. But who knows...

 

[Llahsram]

suge aint kill pac but he put a hit out on biggie

Agreed if I'm going to have somebody killed I'm not going to be sitting in the car next to them. A bullet doesn't have a name. Suge didn't kill Pac. If Pac wasn't sitting there than it would have been Suge getting shot.

 

[the guru]

I am being realistic, but sometimes the most simplest answer is always right. Your just focused on that night when your forgetting everything leading up to the night he got killed. Listen to how paranoid this nigga is in his interviews. He echoes Bun B, Micheal Jackson, Chapplle to some extent. Niggas need to open thier eyes

How does bun come off paranoid?

 

[CrownChakra]

yeah i believe the streets. What do you believe? the media? smh. The streets don't lie. Where you from??? You probably one of those muthafuckas who refused to beleive the nigga was dead like he was untouchable or some shit. streets is real.

LOL Orlando killing Pac has been pushed by the media the most because it promotes the East Coast/ West Coast theory. The streets dont lie but the truth gets twisted into what it really isn't. Im from Toronto Ive heard it happen enough times to start some beef. If you believe the street %100 of the time then your the fool. If you cant talk to the people that the streets is talking about then dont believe it. Rumors arent always the truth, just somebodies version of it. The media would never put this documentary in mainstream media and thats the truth. Streets is real but the streets dont give a fuck about you, and thats real.

But what proof do they have? I mean i def think there's alot of forces runnin' the industry wheter it's dudes with mob/gangsta ties or whatever. But at the same time you can't trust those "facts" you read. That's like me tellin' you that the Power Rangers run the industry. Can't believe shit you read. All that "i've been in the industry so i know" tactic been done over and over.

Im not talking about no gangsters, Im talking about people who run media and influence people to buy shit they dont need, listen to music thats garbage, and believe whatever the television tells them. Gangsters dont run the industry, Im talking about people who are running the things that happen locally, nationally and internationally. These are facts because there is a pattern going on thats been going on for years and niggas are to blind to see it. Ifl you connect people to certain groups that will expose the network thats going on. Its not just one group, its a network of many different groups working under the same umbrella.

How does bun come off paranoid?

My bad I meant Pimp C. Listen to all the interviews he did shortly before he died. Niggas would think he is just crazy and that what people do when they dont understand someone, they catch feelings and call you crazy. They not crazy they just live in a sick environment. Micheal Jackson turning Muslim, Chapple, Loon, Houston turned Christian after he takes his eye, Mace turned into a pastor. These people arent crazy, but when they say you have to sell your soul to make money they mean it.

 

[Old Fart]

LOL Orlando killing Pac has been pushed by the media the most because it promotes the East Coast/ West Coast theory. The streets dont lie but the truth gets twisted into what it really isn't. Im from Toronto Ive heard it happen enough times to start some beef. If you believe the street %100 of the time then your the fool. If you cant talk to the people that the streets is talking about then dont believe it. Rumors arent always the truth, just somebodies version of it. The media would never put this documentary in mainstream media and thats the truth. Streets is real but the streets dont give a fuck about you, and thats real.

sounds like you watch a whole lot of TV. I have no idea what the media is pushing. All I know is what the streets saying about this shit. So you saying the media been saying Baby Lane did it too? Sounds like the media been listening to the streets for once. No offense but I'm not going to listen to some dude from another country tell me about what's being said in my own backyard. Get you some KY jelly because you feelin yourself right now. Frankly i don't even give much of a fuck about it anymore. The nigga dead and been dead for almost 15 years

 

[CrownChakra]

sounds like you watch a whole lot of TV. I have no idea what the media is pushing. All I know is what the streets saying about this shit. So you saying the media been saying Baby Lane did it too? Sounds like the media been listening to the streets for once. No offense but I'm not going to listen to some dude from another country tell me about what's being said in my own backyard. Get you some KY jelly because you feelin yourself right now

Believe what you want as long as you know its not the truth. IMO anyway

 

[DatNiggaB1]

I think Biggie would of stayed with Puff as he has always been relevent to the industry in so many ways. Suge needed Pac. Pac may of had problems.

There would be no such things as Bugati Boys if Biggie lived.

 

[DatNiggaB1]

there was murmurs saying Biggie didn't like the direction puff was leading him in.

Yea the shiny suits was prolly gettin to much........but I think that they would of still stayed buisness partners. But then you never know in this game so.........

 

[mike06]

i think Pac and Sige would've soured either over money or somethin else but i think Puff and Big would've remained good friends and i think Puff would've let Big go unconditionally if there were any problems between the two....Puff was only a paper gangster b/c he lost his cash cow way too soon and wasn't about to fall on his face again.....Big was prolly the ONLY artist on BB that was not complainin about his paper....i dont think Big would've been shiny suited in the MMMP video or any video for that matter i think he's style complimented Puff's and they both like the finer things...hell i think BB as a company would've went in a totally diffferent direction had Big stuck around...might've competed wit the Roc image-wise(that goodfellas/casino/godfather gangsta image wit money to spend...suits, hats, nice cars and shit) for that #1 spot.

 

[Hatter]

maybe...maybe not, yall remeber Wayne was on his way out the door because of the way Baby was running shit, then they reconciled and now look where he is at.