The Official 2pac Versus Biggie Thread...

[thesynthesis]

what u fail to understand is that sooner or later they were gonna cross paths and dead that shit cuz both of them were sick of that east-west crap

yea it wud have been squashed, pacs beef was with badboy and it's associates,

i think once pac saw biggy was tryna part ways with puff, niggas wud have chopped it up eventually, u wud have had farah khan, j prince and others tryna unite niggas, so it was inevitable, they wud have to talk

puff and suge was tryna prolong the beef for sales, pac and big wanst about to be slaves for too long,

 

[hnic1978]

wherr did tupac say he squash;d beef wit biggie? & that video is from da 96 mtv musik awardz da nite tupac squash;d da beef wit nas as u can c n da video 2pac was still mad @ nas but then when he seen nas later that nite & pac ask;d nas did he have a problem & nas said no & shit was squash;d & thatz when tupac got nas 2 say he would b down wit da 1nation project but i dont know wat ya talkin about wit tupac squashin beef wit big when pac had katz like BIG DADDY KANE throwin shotz @ biggie n 96 on WHERR EVA U R!

"DA 1ST SYLLABLEZ OF OUR NAMEZ(2pac/BIG DADDY KANE) 2GETHER IS '2BIG' THINK ABOUT THAT" -BIG DADDY KANE
[video=youtube;JU5IsEe85ZI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU5IsEe85ZI&feature=feedu[/video]

Dont make something thats not there.....NONE of that track took a shot at BIG

 

[YamoleySensei]

Only Big would remain relevant and would easily go down as an all-time great....

Pac's fraudulent lifestyle and "Thug Life" gimmick will eventually wear out its welcome.....he'd go from ballerina, studio gangster, fake revolutionist to hip hop's laughingstock....

 

[hnic1978]

yea it wud have been squashed, pacs beef was with badboy and it's associates,

i think once pac saw biggy was tryna part ways with puff, niggas wud have chopped it up eventually, u wud have had farah khan, j prince and others tryna unite niggas, so it was inevitable, they wud have to talk

puff and suge was tryna prolong the beef for sales, pac and big wanst about to be slaves for too long,

Bolded for realness.....It was either they was gonna have high ranks on their labels or they was gonna start their own shit

 

[thesynthesis]

His mother said they talked it out, on a few documentaries. I dunno, I guess I like to hear hearsay from the horse's mouth. Shit just don't add up, that's all I'm sayin. Pac was way too smart to drag that "beef" out any further. Hell, even Jay and Nas squashed it, and made some dope records together.

no disrespect to ms wallace she been tellin many lies, or things she was told, unno

snoop was there, suge was there, angie was there, outlawz was there, nas was there, nas niggas was there and nobody ever said big and pac chopped it up

like big said after pac died " i wish i could sat down and talked to him"

 

[gee757]

pac squashed it with nas after this interview same day

nas turned up with 70 niggas (supposedly) and pac was there with his ny niggas, and pac approached nas and they talked

edit i read u said BIG....naw he aint squash it with BIG lol....

PURE FAIRYTALE tupac had mo people wit him & suge was tellin tupac 2 slap nas but pac aint do it.,.

what u fail to understand is that sooner or later they were gonna cross paths and dead that shit cuz both of them were sick of that east-west crap

nah cuz biggie & bad boy was throwin shotz back look@ biggie dissin pac on mtv..

[video=youtube;AaFCCjTc_ao]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaFCCjTc_ao&feature=feedu[/video]

^ c shit was not gonna b squash;d cuz biggie was dissin tupac back but he was a koward cuz he was scared 2 say tupacz name just like n that story method man told when a lil kid ran up 2 his tint;d whip wit biggie hidden off n da back & da kid ran up & start;d clownin biggie nfront of method man talkin about how pac was shittin on biggie on HIT EM UP & method told da kid 2 look n da back of da whip cuz big was rite therr & then all of a sudden da kid want;d a autograph but of course biggie aint sign shit after da kid just shitt;d on him but biggie neva said a bad word about tupac cuz he was SHOOK! lol

Dont make something thats not there.....NONE of that track took a shot at BIG

u betta listen 2 that shit again lol

 

[hnic1978]

PURE FAIRYTALE tupac had mo people wit him & suge was tellin tupac 2 slap nas but pac aint do it.,.

nah cuz biggie & bad boy was throwin shotz back look@ biggie dissin pac on mtv..

[video=youtube;AaFCCjTc_ao]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaFCCjTc_ao&feature=feedu[/video]

^ c shit was not gonna b squash;d cuz biggie was dissin tupac back but he was a koward cuz he was scared 2 say tupacz name just like n that story method man told when a lil kid ran up 2 his tint;d whip wit biggie hidden off n da back & da kid ran up & start;d clownin biggie nfront of method man talkin about how pac was shittin on biggie on HIT EM UP & method told da kid 2 look n da back of da whip cuz big was rite therr & then all of a sudden da kid want;d a autograph but of course biggie aint sign shit after da kid just shitt;d on him but biggie neva said a bad word about tupac cuz he was SHOOK! lol

u betta listen 2 that shit again lol

boy u take a molehill and make a mountain out of it!!!!

 

[thesynthesis]

Bolded for realness.....It was either they was gonna have high ranks on their labels or they was gonna start their own shit

pac had fired his lawyer who was suges lawyer a week before he died....the same lawyer who drew up the bogus contract and fucked with his money

once a outside lawyer came and investigated how the money his being distributed, i dont think pac wud have been happy, thus the conflict with suge wud have begun and the contract wud have been torn up, or suge wud have paid up the 11 million he owed him....snoop and pacs mom confirmed he wasnt happy with suge the last 2 weeks before he died, and was gettin frustrated

a similar story with BIG who was complaining that Puff was over working him and he was not seeing his money, also he was talkin about gettin off BB and starting his own shit with his own artists.

 

[thesynthesis]

PURE FAIRYTALE tupac had mo people wit him & suge was tellin tupac 2 slap nas but pac aint do it.,.

i dont believe snoops story, cuz bitch dogg always lies and twists shit to make shit seem like he was part of everything

i dont no wat suge said, but him tellin him to slap nas wudnt be out of the ordinary

i'm glad he didnt, they peaced it up and he wanted to remove nas name off the makaveli record, however suge left it in lol

 

[Lab Baby]

no disrespect to ms wallace she been tellin many lies, or things she was told, unno

snoop was there, suge was there, angie was there, outlawz was there, nas was there, nas niggas was there and nobody ever said big and pac chopped it up

like big said after pac died " i wish i could sat down and talked to him"

Well that about clears it up for me, I wasn't too clear on the history.

Still, were dealing with hypotheticals here. Niggas is stupid to think Pac and Big would've drawn out that beef forever, when 1. Big never fully responded in the first place, 2. it all stemmed from a misunderstanding and 3. they were all gonna leave their respective labels at some point anyway.

 

[gee757]

boy u take a molehill and make a mountain out of it!!!!

boy ya slow if u cant c da shotz thrown n that trak biggie was even sayin FUK CRAIG MACK cuz he was down wit deathrow2

i dont believe snoops story, cuz bitch dogg always lies and twists shit to make shit seem like he was part of everything

i dont no wat suge said, but him tellin him to slap nas wudnt be out of the ordinary

i'm glad he didnt, they peaced it up and he wanted to remove nas name off the makaveli record, however suge left it in lol

fatal said snoopy was scared 2 walk da ny streetz he was hidin n da van da whole time plus all da videoz of tupac & snoop 2gether @ da mtv awardz provez sumthang wasnt rite about snitch dogg cuz he was lookin scary da whole night so i dont believe shit he sayz about wat happen;d n ny either.,.,.,.but that whole RAH DIB story about suge knight tellin tupac 2 slap nas n da park makez sense cuz if u look @ that video i post'd of tupac talkin about DEATHROWEAST n ny u could tell he was still mad @ nas so thatz probably y suge told pac 2 slap nas fa tryna feed off da EAST VS WEST nonsense lolll

Well that about clears it up for me, I wasn't too clear on the history.

Still, were dealing with hypotheticals here. Niggas is stupid to think Pac and Big would've drawn out that beef forever, when 1. Big never fully responded in the first place, 2. it all stemmed from a misunderstanding and 3. they were all gonna leave their respective labels at some point anyway.

^ did u not watch that biggie mtv shit dissin pac?

 

[Lambent]

Scenario 3.

The majority of young people why say BIG, and Pac are the greatest nowdays haven't even heard more then 3 songs from them.

 

[Lab Baby]

boy ya slow if u cant c da shotz thrown n that trak biggie was even sayin FUK CRAIG MACK cuz he was down wit deathrow2

fatal said snoopy was scared 2 walk da ny streetz he was hidin n da van da whole time plus all da videoz of tupac & snoop 2gether @ da mtv awardz provez sumthang wasnt rite about snitch dogg cuz he was lookin scary da whole night so i dont believe shit he sayz about wat happen;d n ny either.,.,.,.but that whole RAH DIB story about suge knight tellin tupac 2 slap nas n da park makez sense cuz if u look @ that video i post'd of tupac talkin about DEATHROWEAST n ny u could tell he was still mad @ nas so thatz probably y suge told pac 2 slap nas fa tryna feed off da EAST VS WEST nonsense lolll

^ did u not watch that biggie mtv shit dissin pac?

He didn't say his name, that could've applied to Nas too. Not a real response.

Yo, not for nothing, you always got the exclusive videos. Do you have or ever hear that Styles P or whoever line dissin Aaliyah talkin about another bitch dead in a Rocawear coat?

 

[gee757]

He didn't say his name, that could've applied to Nas too. Not a real response.

Yo, not for nothing, you always got the exclusive videos. Do you have or ever hear that Styles P or whoever line dissin Aaliyah talkin about another bitch dead in a Rocawear coat?

come on now everybody know biggie was talkin about tupac look@ da date JUNE96' & aint nun of them videoz xclusive cuz them shitz been on youtube fa a while now & no i dont have that stylez shit lol

 

[Lab Baby]

come on now everybody know big was talkin about tupac look@ da date JUNE96' & aint nun of them videoz xclusive cuz them shitz been on youtube fa a while now & no i dont have that stylez shit lol

Ok, it don't exist then...

Nah, I knew he was talking about Pac. But aside from BKs Finest where he pretty much dissed himself, he never said Pac's name in a negative way. *waits for footage*

 

[playmaker88]

Only Big would remain relevant and would easily go down as an all-time great....

Pac's fraudulent lifestyle and "Thug Life" gimmick will eventually wear out its welcome.....he'd go from ballerina, studio gangster, fake revolutionist to hip hop's laughingstock....

You got it fucked up for one.. THUG LIFE was largely misunderstood by negroes.. they took it at face value.. from the words thug life.. and ran with it... Biggie was great.. but.. shit .. he was.. "LOCAL" compared to pacs international appeal.. this is no pac vs biggie statement thats just what it was.. to those saying pac wasnt large.. when he was alive.. your cats were probably 6.. or 2 when he was out.. .. He was public enemy number one for silly niggas.. saying they shot some cops for what Pac said on his song.. and for goign at delores tuckers head for demonizing him.. and his music.. Most of yall dont even know the climate of Politics surrounding pac during that time.. that Controversy made himeven more popular with people outside of the realm of hiphop.. they wanted to see what everything was about.. it was sensationalized by the media.. just as east or west..

 

[gee757]

Ok, it don't exist then...

Nah, I knew he was talking about Pac. But aside from BKs Finest where he pretty much dissed himself, he never said Pac's name in a negative way. *waits for footage*

biggie was dissin tupac all da time he would just go about it da koward way & would neva say his name besidez on bk finest tupac really did have biggie & bad boy scared 2 death & katz like TREACH will tell u

 

[Lab Baby]

biggie was dissin tupac all da time he would just go about it da koward way & would neva say his name besidez on bk finest tupac really did have biggie & bad boy scared 2 death & katz like TREACH will tell u

I actually agree with that. Still didn't stop Bad Boy from making moves. Not like Pac Murda Inc'd them or no shit like that. Everyone was going platinum, even wack ass Junior Mafia.

 

[gee757]

I actually agree with that. Still didn't stop Bad Boy from making moves. Not like Pac Murda Inc'd them or no shit like that. Everyone was going platinum, even wack ass Junior Mafia.

thatz just it tupac was only just gettin start;d biggie was gonna b da 1st ja rule if pac aint die lol...but that situation wasnt nuttin like wat happen between murder inc & da gggggay-unit this was sumthang different cuz ja rule made a comeback after grodt biggie wasnt gonna make a comeback when pac was fiinish;d lol

 

[Lab Baby]

thatz just it tupac was only just gettin start;d biggie was gonna b da 1st ja rule if pac aint die lol...but that situation wasnt nuttin like wat happen between murder inc & da gggggay-unit this was sumthang different cuz ja rule made a comeback after grodt biggie wasnt gonna make a comeback when pac was fiinish;d lol

Really? You actually believe this? First off, that Ja album (forgot what it was called, so it's already obselete) sold cuz of the 50 beef. Plus he flopped with that Blood In My Eye shit. The only artist selling was Ashanti, and even she was falling off. People turned on him once he did a song with Bobby Brown and did that atrocious video in the amusement park *insert 50 joke here*. Murda Inc collapsed on its own with the FED case and Irv being a shitty CEO, 50 just put the nail in the coffin. You really thought if Pac was alive, and oversaw the whole 7DT album, did the One Nation project, fans wouldve said fuck LAD? Bad Boy was on fire, and showed no signs of slowing down, it wouldve been a bloody war if Pac wanted to end Bad Boy.