The Nagging Mom: What the **** is up with women and censorship?

[VulcanRaven]

Your argument is predicated on bullshit you read online and not facts.

Metroid had a female lead in the 80s, it was actually progressive as you didn't know Samus was a girl until the end of the game. Nobody complained, she was depicted as being awesome...full stop, not "lesbo girl power awesome!"

One of the biggest game franchises of the 90s was Tomb Raider. You played EXCLUSIVELY as a woman archeologist (so yes, woman and "the science") they even made movies starring Angelina Jolie and the franchise was rebooted in the 2010s with another film on the way.

Resident Evil had plenty of female leads. The entire Resident Evil film line had a female lead...every single one and there's like 10 of them.

Resident Evil knock offs like Paradise Eve and Dino Crisis also had female leads.

Bayonnetta was popular in the 00s, female lead. Bloodrayne also (which garnered two small budget movies)

The Final Fantasy series had an all female cast before. Several games with female leads. Final Fantasy is a huge franchise.

Where is your argument?! That's 30 years of females in gaming and nobody gave a shit.

Females in fighting games are just as capable as the men. Where's the sexism? The sexism is they have boobs that are nicer than yours, I bet. There's no lack of diversity.

There's a lack of honesty and integrity in censors who want to ruin everyone else's fun. Grow up.

On top of that Sony just released 3 games this year with female leads and one has sold over 4 million copies already. Madame on some bullshit.

Lol

Sigh

U r right things are changing finally

With games like zero dawn

Couldn't say the same 10, 15 yrs ago

Samus was in a game about 30 years ago. Tera was in FF6 20 years ago, right after that you had Lara, Jill, Claire, the woman from Dino Crisis, the woman from Fear Effect and parasite Eve all as main characters in the late 90s. Joanna Dark in 2000, an all Female FF game with FFX-2 and many more. Zero Dawn is my favorite game of the generation so far and I support more female characters, but not as an agenda.

 

[LordZuko]

@Madame_CJSkywalker.

I peeped her move man.

She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.

she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.

Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.

Who's your team on 2k?

What player you think overrated?

What's your gamertag?

Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.

She literally googled "popular dbz saga"

Who was the fuck nigga in that saga? And why?

 

[VulcanRaven]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!

Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a fuck.

People give a fuck when you decide to change what they want into some shit you want.

Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging shit somewhere else, niggas was having fun over here.

If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.

All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... Shit is arrogant as fuck.

Everything ain't about you and your politics.

Get the fuck on!

get out your feelings

comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days

in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians

and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market

again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past

is that bad? lol

this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking

The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.

Female writers and editors going back 30 years

Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this shit you talking about?

lol

in video games and comics?

the humor

they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization

the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters

same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines

we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and kill female prostitutes

wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence

Actually know the facts. You have no credibility on this topic. You can kill anyone in GTA, not just prostitutes. You obviously never played the game or are just pushing an agenda.

The second bold, so you never were allowed to read comics but claiming women were represented a certain way...how would you know if you weren't allowed to read them? Once again, you are pushing an agenda based on no facts at all. Then it wouldn't matter anyway since your parents were against comic violence lol.

Stop talking about things you have no knowledge or experience with. It makes you look ignorant.

i'm 30 ...i have been able do as i please without the consent of my parents for a while including read comics

i have 4 older brothers who enjoy comics

and been a fan of gta since it was 2d lol

not til i got older did i grow uncomfortable with the game play and it started to bother me there were no playable female protagonist in gta 5 for ex or did female characters historically have major roles

you can kill anyone, but that is besides the point

having no female protagonist, little to no female characters with major roles, and on top of having female prostitutes you can pick up, have sex with and kill is the issue

You don't have to do anything lol. Killing prostitutes is a choice. Why does GTA need female characters as a lead or support? It won't make the game better and that is pushing an agenda once again. The characters in GTA are irrelevant if you enjoy the game. Go play a game that has a female lead or supporting characters. There are many. Out of all the fucked up sgit in GTA you are angry about the ability to kill a prostitute? rofl

No gta a lot of fucked up shit happens, can happen

But considering that female prositutes are some of the most vulnerable and preyed upon members of our society along with the fact no female characters played prominent roles tht made it even more disturbing

The game is not about killing prostitutes but if it makes you feel better I used to enjoy shooting up the cops, running over random people and blowing up cars. All of that is less disturbing huh? I always made sure the prostitutes were spared.

Sike I ued to run them over after they got out the car and took my money back. Bitches lol

 

[LordZuko]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!

Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a fuck.

People give a fuck when you decide to change what they want into some shit you want.

Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging shit somewhere else, niggas was having fun over here.

If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.

All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... Shit is arrogant as fuck.

Everything ain't about you and your politics.

Get the fuck on!

get out your feelings

comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days

in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians

and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market

again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past

is that bad? lol

this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking

The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.

Female writers and editors going back 30 years

Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this shit you talking about?

lol

in video games and comics?

the humor

they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization

the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters

same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines

we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and kill female prostitutes

wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence

Actually know the facts. You have no credibility on this topic. You can kill anyone in GTA, not just prostitutes. You obviously never played the game or are just pushing an agenda.

The second bold, so you never were allowed to read comics but claiming women were represented a certain way...how would you know if you weren't allowed to read them? Once again, you are pushing an agenda based on no facts at all. Then it wouldn't matter anyway since your parents were against comic violence lol.

Stop talking about things you have no knowledge or experience with. It makes you look ignorant.

i'm 30 ...i have been able do as i please without the consent of my parents for a while including read comics

i have 4 older brothers who enjoy comics

and been a fan of gta since it was 2d lol

not til i got older did i grow uncomfortable with the game play and it started to bother me there were no playable female protagonist in gta 5 for ex or did female characters historically have major roles

you can kill anyone, but that is besides the point

having no female protagonist, little to no female characters with major roles, and on top of having female prostitutes you can pick up, have sex with and kill is the issue

You don't have to do anything lol. Killing prostitutes is a choice. Why does GTA need female characters as a lead or support? It won't make the game better and that is pushing an agenda once again. The characters in GTA are irrelevant if you enjoy the game. Go play a game that has a female lead or supporting characters. There are many. Out of all the fucked up sgit in GTA you are angry about the ability to kill a prostitute? rofl

No gta a lot of fucked up shit happens, can happen

But considering that female prositutes are some of the most vulnerable and preyed upon members of our society along with the fact no female characters played prominent roles tht made it even more disturbing

The game is not about killing prostitutes but if it makes you feel better I used to enjoy shooting up the cops, running over random people and blowing up cars. All of that is less disturbing huh? I always made sure the prostitutes were spared.

Sike I sued to run them over after they got out the car and took my money back. Bitches lol

Bro she didn't actually play this game. She is just parroting a feminist complaint of the game.

You know how i know she never played it? She hasn't mentioned rampaging. Who doesn't mention that when talking about gta? Or the cheat codes. She has played none of this stuff.

@VulcanRaven

 

[deadeye]

@jono is a male feminist. That explains so much.

What's funnier is the fact that, being someone who considers himself a male feminist..........even he's not buying all the bullshit @Madame_CJSkywalker 's been saying.

 

[VulcanRaven]

right now i'm playing breath of the wild and nba 2k alil

dope how nba live now has wnba teams

but yea the issue is there aren't a great variety of games with female protagonist...things are changing though

lol @ narcissistic bitch ....

like others i just want video games, comic industry to not perpetuate negative, sexist stereotypes

and realize women and poc like the shit too...we want to see more of ourselves in a variety of different capacities ....and not just characters that are villains or comic relief or tokens or sexual objects

as a customer of these products think we all have a bit of a right to make request or voice our complaints ...same as ppl can argue the new iron man being a blk girl is a stupid idea

but sure i would think i was being petty or it was just me "nagging" if i was a straight man too

*shrugs*

The bold is hypocritical don't you think? Zelda has always made the titular princess a weak damsel in distress despite the game being named after her. She is the stereotypical weak female from the history of fiction that needs a brave male to save her. Then NBA2K is nothing but masculine (some feminine) men bouncing a ball. Many have pointed out several games with female characters and you are not or have not played any of them. What are you complaining about again?

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics

i'm 30 ...i have been able do as i please without the consent of my parents for a while including read comics

i have 4 older brothers who enjoy comics

and been a fan of gta since it was 2d lol

not til i got older did i grow uncomfortable with the game play and it started to bother me there were no playable female protagonist in gta 5 for ex or did female characters historically have major roles

you can kill anyone, but that is besides the point

having no female protagonist, little to no female characters with major roles, and on top of having female prostitutes you can pick up, have sex with and kill is the issue

Go play a game with a female protagonist. There are plenty of those. I doubt you played gta 5. I bet you're only repeating feminist talking points.

If gta 5 was making you uncomfortable then change your game.

Your issue is that you want a form of entertainment to conform to your personal ethics. That's not how the world works. Only a narcissistic bitch would think it does.

No one is forcing you to play any game you don't want. But you think it's ok to try and force devs and creators to make a product for a demographic that's not even interested in the industry.

Before gta v what was the last game you played?

@Madame_CJSkywalker

right now i'm playing breath of the wild and nba 2k alil

dope how nba live now has wnba teams

but yea the issue is there aren't a great variety of games with female protagonist...things are changing though

lol @ narcissistic bitch ....

like others i just want video games, comic industry to not perpetuate negative, sexist stereotypes

and realize women and poc like the shit too...we want to see more of ourselves in a variety of different capacities ....and not just characters that are villains or comic relief or tokens or sexual objects

as a customer of these products think we all have a bit of a right to make request or voice our complaints ...same as ppl can argue the new iron man being a blk girl is a stupid idea

but sure i would think i was being petty or it was just me "nagging" if i was a straight man too

*shrugs*

What the fuck are you talking about ' there arent many great games with females protagonist"

- HORIZON ZERO DAWN

- NIER AUTOMATA

- JILL VALENTINE , ADA WONG IN RESIDENT EVIL SERIES

- RISE OF THE TOMB RAIDER

- THE BOSS in METAL GEAR SOLID SNAKE EATER

- BAYONETTA

- CHUN LI

- CATWOMAN

- BATGIRL

These are blockbusters games, awards winning games, characters who are PRAISED by the gaming community and beyond. Guess what NO MAN HAS EVER COMPLAINED, NO STRIKE HAVE BEEN MADE AGAINST.

And its not for the only the male gaze. These characters are beautifull,POWERFULL, THOUGHTFULL.

aint nothing worse than being a Facebook, Tweeter warrior. You will always ending up RIDICULED. Comics and video games are more feminists than you. The difference is they dont look to DEFEMINIZE WOMEN. Lara Croft is hot and skillfull. So is Batonetta. So is ALOY.

I did not lose my masculinity playing these characters. I did not lose my kettlebell dick strikes playing these games. I had FUN. I dod not once frel TRIGGERED.

 

[Splackavelli]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!

Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a fuck.

People give a fuck when you decide to change what they want into some shit you want.

Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging shit somewhere else, niggas was having fun over here.

If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.

All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... Shit is arrogant as fuck.

Everything ain't about you and your politics.

Get the fuck on!

get out your feelings

comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days

in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians

and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market

again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past

is that bad? lol

this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking

The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.

Female writers and editors going back 30 years

Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this shit you talking about?

lol

in video games and comics?

the humor

they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization

the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters

same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines

we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and kill female prostitutes

wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence

Women being sexual isn't anti-woman.

Women are sexual, get over it.

lol

it is when the majority of women are sexualized and have size D breast opposed to the male characters who to a large extent come in varying shapes and sizes ....and actually have shit to do and say that involves more than pleasing the male gaze

Who CARES?! Like is that really an issue? You feel its your place to tell people where to look?

How you going to police the imagination? FOH.

i want girls as well as boys to be able to enjoy the media

everyone should care when the media we consume has shown to influence how we view ourselves/others and and the way we interact with others

like i said this is your male privilege talking

same as poc have been fighting for fair and balanced representation in media...we do it because it has real world consequences that if you aren't poc you wouldn't be aware of or worry about

Its hard for me to enjoy comics when artist make ms marvel look like McCauly Culkin. I havent sexually objectified a femle charecter since middle school. i Iwas going through puberty i outgrew that phase. Show me one femle character in all of marvel and dc that are size DD besides. Power girl i'll wait.....besies i read comic books for entertainment and not to oogle or drool oer hand drawn fictional women.

 

[Splackavelli]

Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451. In that book he bad the vision to see how the grievance industry would blossom.

It started with banning books, now people can twist anything to fit their grievance. Niggas can find sexism in a bowl of oatmeal if you give them enough time and they think it's a book deal or speaking engagment willing to pay.

Today, the "male gaze" is a grievance. Yes, where your eyes look is problematic now. Not domestic abuse, not real violence but "how dare you look at me?" "Your look dehumanizes me!"

H3H3 makes fun of this shit a lot too. Cultural appropriation is using black gifs and emojis.

This shit is nonsense. These are First World non-problems. You not being injured or disenfranchised by looks and emojis, grow the fuck up.

lol

the male gaze is the act of depicting the world and women from a masculine and heterosexual point of view, which present women as objects of male pleasure

it's not just a look

you sound like a middle aged white man

young enough to know that 'cultural appropriation' is, but too inflexible in your views to actually learn what it really means and it's impact

know you got a sjw rant in you

how do you feel about identity politics?

i've never had problems with women gazing at or wagging their tongues at me or grabbing my ass when i was younger so how the fuck us a gaze harmful. So now i cant look and ay you? Admiration and adoration is offensive now?What fucked up parallel universe are you trying to have us live in?

 

[Splackavelli]

Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451. In that book he bad the vision to see how the grievance industry would blossom.

It started with banning books, now people can twist anything to fit their grievance. Niggas can find sexism in a bowl of oatmeal if you give them enough time and they think it's a book deal or speaking engagment willing to pay.

Today, the "male gaze" is a grievance. Yes, where your eyes look is problematic now. Not domestic abuse, not real violence but "how dare you look at me?" "Your look dehumanizes me!"

H3H3 makes fun of this shit a lot too. Cultural appropriation is using black gifs and emojis.

This shit is nonsense. These are First World non-problems. You not being injured or disenfranchised by looks and emojis, grow the fuck up.

lol

the male gaze is the act of depicting the world and women from a masculine and heterosexual point of view, which present women as objects of male pleasure

it's not just a look

you sound like a middle aged white man

young enough to know that 'cultural appropriation' is, but too inflexible in your views to actually learn what it really means and it's impact

know you got a sjw rant in you

how do you feel about identity politics?

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!

Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a fuck.

People give a fuck when you decide to change what they want into some shit you want.

Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging shit somewhere else, niggas was having fun over here.

If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.

All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... Shit is arrogant as fuck.

Everything ain't about you and your politics.

Get the fuck on!

get out your feelings

comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days

in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians

and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market

again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past

is that bad? lol

this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking

The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.

Female writers and editors going back 30 years

Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this shit you talking about?

lol

in video games and comics?

the humor

they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization

the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters

same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines

we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and kill female prostitutes

wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence

Women being sexual isn't anti-woman.

Women are sexual, get over it.

lol

it is when the majority of women are sexualized and have size D breast opposed to the male characters who to a large extent come in varying shapes and sizes ....and actually have shit to do and say that involves more than pleasing the male gaze

Who CARES?! Like is that really an issue? You feel its your place to tell people where to look?

How you going to police the imagination? FOH.

i already explained.... a post you conveniently ignored

anyone who wants girls as well as boys to be able to enjoy video games and comics should care

considering media we consume has shown to influence how we view ourselves/others and and the way we interact with others ppl should care

like i said this is your male privilege talking....

same as poc have been fighting for fair and balanced representation in media...we do it because it has real world consequences that if you aren't poc you wouldn't be aware of or worry about

Girls and boys have been enjoying comics and games for years. They have content that cators to them. Do you even know anything about either medium outside of stereotypes? You sound like a whited racist on Fox news speaking on something that you have no knowledge of.

She doesnt play video games i can tell

 

[Splackavelli]

I find it odd that niggas who seem to hate words love communicating on a text based forum. Ya'll niggas need to go get on tinychat or something. Literacy seems to hurt your feelings.

Nigga who's side are you on?

 

[Splackavelli]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!

Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a fuck.

People give a fuck when you decide to change what they want into some shit you want.

Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging shit somewhere else, niggas was having fun over here.

If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.

All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... Shit is arrogant as fuck.

Everything ain't about you and your politics.

Get the fuck on!

get out your feelings

comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days

in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians

and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market

again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past

is that bad? lol

this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking

The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.

Female writers and editors going back 30 years

Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this shit you talking about?

lol

in video games and comics?

the humor

they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization

the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters

same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines

we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and kill female prostitutes

wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence

Actually know the facts. You have no credibility on this topic. You can kill anyone in GTA, not just prostitutes. You obviously never played the game or are just pushing an agenda.

The second bold, so you never were allowed to read comics but claiming women were represented a certain way...how would you know if you weren't allowed to read them? Once again, you are pushing an agenda based on no facts at all. Then it wouldn't matter anyway since your parents were against comic violence lol.

Stop talking about things you have no knowledge or experience with. It makes you look ignorant.

i'm 30 ...i have been able do as i please without the consent of my parents for a while including read comics

i have 4 older brothers who enjoy comics

and been a fan of gta since it was 2d lol

not til i got older did i grow uncomfortable with the game play and it started to bother me there were no playable female protagonist in gta 5 for ex or did female characters historically have major roles

you can kill anyone, but that is besides the point

having no female protagonist, little to no female characters with major roles, and on top of having female prostitutes you can pick up, have sex with and kill is the issue

You don't have to do anything lol. Killing prostitutes is a choice. Why does GTA need female characters as a lead or support? It won't make the game better and that is pushing an agenda once again. The characters in GTA are irrelevant if you enjoy the game. Go play a game that has a female lead or supporting characters. There are many. Out of all the fucked up sgit in GTA you are angry about the ability to kill a prostitute? rofl

No gta a lot of fucked up shit happens, can happen

But considering that female prositutes are some of the most vulnerable and preyed upon members of our society along with the fact no female characters played prominent roles tht made it even more disturbing

Most npcs in gta are vunrable. Play gta online you can create your own femal character . You can make her look like you.Gta 5 story mode is garbage.

 

[Max.]

Men were under attack

 

[Splackavelli]

Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451. In that book he bad the vision to see how the grievance industry would blossom.

It started with banning books, now people can twist anything to fit their grievance. Niggas can find sexism in a bowl of oatmeal if you give them enough time and they think it's a book deal or speaking engagment willing to pay.

Today, the "male gaze" is a grievance. Yes, where your eyes look is problematic now. Not domestic abuse, not real violence but "how dare you look at me?" "Your look dehumanizes me!"

H3H3 makes fun of this shit a lot too. Cultural appropriation is using black gifs and emojis.

This shit is nonsense. These are First World non-problems. You not being injured or disenfranchised by looks and emojis, grow the fuck up.

lol

the male gaze is the act of depicting the world and women from a masculine and heterosexual point of view, which present women as objects of male pleasure

it's not just a look

you sound like a middle aged white man

young enough to know that 'cultural appropriation' is, but too inflexible in your views to actually learn what it really means and it's impact

know you got a sjw rant in you

how do you feel about identity politics?

i've never had problems with women gazing at or wagging their tongues at me or grabbing my ass when i was younger so how the fuck us a gaze harmful. So now i cant look and ay you? Admiration and adoration is offensive now?What fucked up parallel universe are you trying to have us live in?

Guys do you see the hypocrisy in this male gazing eye rape lunacy?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

How ridiculous. People don't have water, people don't have homes, people don't have rights but by gawd we gotta fight the male gaze.

lol

smh

says the person crying about women wanting fair and balance representation across mediums

what about your priorities bruh

i'm only responding to a thread you created

Co sign this shit to the fullest.

Wtf are those developers, artists etc thinking using their so called imagination, creativity and dare I say it...free will and money...

We need panels...people who check these fools worldwide on the shit they make up. Put everyone in boxes and corner them all up so that people of all walks of life are probably represented...

Shit, I for one am absolutely disgusted that senior citizens did not get the proper representation in Dragon Ball Super...Japan has more elderly than young folk.

And why are there barely any bald headed or bearded up super heroes? Evidently there are loads of bald headed mofos out there....and what did we get? One punch man? The fuck? Batman has been rocking the cowl for decades yet his hairline never fades?

Worst book ever written was the Lord of the rings..orcs, dwarves, wizards....but no Asian women?

And don't even get me started on game of thrones...white walkers? No black walkers? Mist be two sides.

Like you I'm tired and fed up reading, watching and hearing all types of shit other people created that doesn't reflect my grand understanding of the world.

You are on point, but you missed the biggest issue of all with Game of Thrones. Why no land dragons b? She got flying dragons but not all dragons can fly. Why they don't add no diversity by having land dragons. They can't fly but they are still dragons.

GoT dragons aren't even dragons technically. They are wyverns. Martin just does his own thing, so in his world all dragons fly.

 

[LordZuko]

How ridiculous. People don't have water, people don't have homes, people don't have rights but by gawd we gotta fight the male gaze.

lol

smh

says the person crying about women wanting fair and balance representation across mediums

what about your priorities bruh

i'm only responding to a thread you created

Co sign this shit to the fullest.

Wtf are those developers, artists etc thinking using their so called imagination, creativity and dare I say it...free will and money...

We need panels...people who check these fools worldwide on the shit they make up. Put everyone in boxes and corner them all up so that people of all walks of life are probably represented...

Shit, I for one am absolutely disgusted that senior citizens did not get the proper representation in Dragon Ball Super...Japan has more elderly than young folk.

And why are there barely any bald headed or bearded up super heroes? Evidently there are loads of bald headed mofos out there....and what did we get? One punch man? The fuck? Batman has been rocking the cowl for decades yet his hairline never fades?

Worst book ever written was the Lord of the rings..orcs, dwarves, wizards....but no Asian women?

And don't even get me started on game of thrones...white walkers? No black walkers? Mist be two sides.

Like you I'm tired and fed up reading, watching and hearing all types of shit other people created that doesn't reflect my grand understanding of the world.

You are on point, but you missed the biggest issue of all with Game of Thrones. Why no land dragons b? She got flying dragons but not all dragons can fly. Why they don't add no diversity by having land dragons. They can't fly but they are still dragons.

GoT dragons aren't even dragons technically. They are wyverns. Martin just does his own thing, so in his world all dragons fly.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

How ridiculous. People don't have water, people don't have homes, people don't have rights but by gawd we gotta fight the male gaze.

lol

smh

says the person crying about women wanting fair and balance representation across mediums

what about your priorities bruh

i'm only responding to a thread you created

Co sign this shit to the fullest.

Wtf are those developers, artists etc thinking using their so called imagination, creativity and dare I say it...free will and money...

We need panels...people who check these fools worldwide on the shit they make up. Put everyone in boxes and corner them all up so that people of all walks of life are probably represented...

Shit, I for one am absolutely disgusted that senior citizens did not get the proper representation in Dragon Ball Super...Japan has more elderly than young folk.

And why are there barely any bald headed or bearded up super heroes? Evidently there are loads of bald headed mofos out there....and what did we get? One punch man? The fuck? Batman has been rocking the cowl for decades yet his hairline never fades?

Worst book ever written was the Lord of the rings..orcs, dwarves, wizards....but no Asian women?

And don't even get me started on game of thrones...white walkers? No black walkers? Mist be two sides.

Like you I'm tired and fed up reading, watching and hearing all types of shit other people created that doesn't reflect my grand understanding of the world.

You are on point, but you missed the biggest issue of all with Game of Thrones. Why no land dragons b? She got flying dragons but not all dragons can fly. Why they don't add no diversity by having land dragons. They can't fly but they are still dragons.

GoT dragons aren't even dragons technically. They are wyverns. Martin just does his own thing, so in his world all dragons fly.

Lol I was waiting on a "nerd" post. You did not disappoint.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

@Madame_CJSkywalker.

I peeped her move man.

She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.

she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.

Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.

Who's your team on 2k?

What player you think overrated?

What's your gamertag?

Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.

She literally googled "popular dbz saga"

Who was the fuck nigga in that saga? And why?

my team on 2k? rockets, blazers

overrated? steph

not telling you my gamer tag lol

i was shipping vegta and bulma in elementary nigga

and i more so lurk in the other subforums ...

you can believe me or not....it's cool

having a difference of opinion doesn't make me fake or necessarily wrong. i'm not the only person to have these complaints, make these observations

and a dozen or so female protagonist doesn't mean shit when out of the hundreds of games, comics released over the years have male protagonists and/or perpetuate sexist stereotypes and the such

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

right now i'm playing breath of the wild and nba 2k alil

dope how nba live now has wnba teams

but yea the issue is there aren't a great variety of games with female protagonist...things are changing though

lol @ narcissistic bitch ....

like others i just want video games, comic industry to not perpetuate negative, sexist stereotypes

and realize women and poc like the shit too...we want to see more of ourselves in a variety of different capacities ....and not just characters that are villains or comic relief or tokens or sexual objects

as a customer of these products think we all have a bit of a right to make request or voice our complaints ...same as ppl can argue the new iron man being a blk girl is a stupid idea

but sure i would think i was being petty or it was just me "nagging" if i was a straight man too

*shrugs*

The bold is hypocritical don't you think? Zelda has always made the titular princess a weak damsel in distress despite the game being named after her. She is the stereotypical weak female from the history of fiction that needs a brave male to save her. Then NBA2K is nothing but masculine (some feminine) men bouncing a ball. Many have pointed out several games with female characters and you are not or have not played any of them. What are you complaining about again?

lol

zelda is far from the worst offender....been a fan since ocarina of time though... had the gold joint

and i can't like playing simulated basketball because i'm actually a big basketball fan? why? there is no wnba offerings until now if you want to count nba live lol ....what about nba 2k actually perpetuates negative stereotypes ?

how do you know i hasn't played metroid prime or resident evil or that i don't own zero dawn

never said didn't

i said women and poc as protagonist are underrepresented...

un·der·rep·re·sent

ˌəndə(r)ˌreprəˈzent/Submit

verb

past tense: underrepresented; past participle: underrepresented

provide with insufficient or inadequate representation.

"women are underrepresented at high levels"

there are actually studies that support my claims... here is just one of many

A RECENT REPORT released by the USC Annenberg School for Communication says that videogames don't represent American society any better than television does.

It also pointed out that though 10 percent of the playable characters found were female, women make up 40 percent of the gaming population
https://www.wired.com/2009/07/minorities-in-videogames/

throwing out names like lara croft proves nothing.... though i was a tomb rider fan growing up... spent a lot of time running around her mansion with the butler

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!

Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a fuck.

People give a fuck when you decide to change what they want into some shit you want.

Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging shit somewhere else, niggas was having fun over here.

If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.

All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... Shit is arrogant as fuck.

Everything ain't about you and your politics.

Get the fuck on!

get out your feelings

comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days

in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians

and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market

again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past

is that bad? lol

this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking

The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.

Female writers and editors going back 30 years

Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this shit you talking about?

lol

in video games and comics?

the humor

they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization

the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters

same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines

we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and kill female prostitutes

wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence

Actually know the facts. You have no credibility on this topic. You can kill anyone in GTA, not just prostitutes. You obviously never played the game or are just pushing an agenda.

The second bold, so you never were allowed to read comics but claiming women were represented a certain way...how would you know if you weren't allowed to read them? Once again, you are pushing an agenda based on no facts at all. Then it wouldn't matter anyway since your parents were against comic violence lol.

Stop talking about things you have no knowledge or experience with. It makes you look ignorant.

i'm 30 ...i have been able do as i please without the consent of my parents for a while including read comics

i have 4 older brothers who enjoy comics

and been a fan of gta since it was 2d lol

not til i got older did i grow uncomfortable with the game play and it started to bother me there were no playable female protagonist in gta 5 for ex or did female characters historically have major roles

you can kill anyone, but that is besides the point

having no female protagonist, little to no female characters with major roles, and on top of having female prostitutes you can pick up, have sex with and kill is the issue

You don't have to do anything lol. Killing prostitutes is a choice. Why does GTA need female characters as a lead or support? It won't make the game better and that is pushing an agenda once again. The characters in GTA are irrelevant if you enjoy the game. Go play a game that has a female lead or supporting characters. There are many. Out of all the fucked up sgit in GTA you are angry about the ability to kill a prostitute? rofl

No gta a lot of fucked up shit happens, can happen

But considering that female prositutes are some of the most vulnerable and preyed upon members of our society along with the fact no female characters played prominent roles tht made it even more disturbing

Most npcs in gta are vunrable. Play gta online you can create your own femal character . You can make her look like you.Gta 5 story mode is garbage.

i know

i brought up gta because its one of the most highest rated and highest selling video games of all time

and again its disturbing that in the main game, with the exception of bruh's auntie or an ex wife, women are primarily there to be brought for sex and/or killed