The Nagging Mom: What the **** is up with women and censorship?

[LordZuko]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!

Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a fuck.

People give a fuck when you decide to change what they want into some shit you want.

Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging shit somewhere else, niggas was having fun over here.

If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.

All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... Shit is arrogant as fuck.

Everything ain't about you and your politics.

Get the fuck on!

get out your feelings

comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days

in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians

and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market

again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past

is that bad? lol

this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking

The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.

Female writers and editors going back 30 years

Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this shit you talking about?

lol

in video games and comics?

the humor

they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization

the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters

same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines

we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and kill female prostitutes

wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence

Actually know the facts. You have no credibility on this topic. You can kill anyone in GTA, not just prostitutes. You obviously never played the game or are just pushing an agenda.

The second bold, so you never were allowed to read comics but claiming women were represented a certain way...how would you know if you weren't allowed to read them? Once again, you are pushing an agenda based on no facts at all. Then it wouldn't matter anyway since your parents were against comic violence lol.

Stop talking about things you have no knowledge or experience with. It makes you look ignorant.

i'm 30 ...i have been able do as i please without the consent of my parents for a while including read comics

i have 4 older brothers who enjoy comics

and been a fan of gta since it was 2d lol

not til i got older did i grow uncomfortable with the game play and it started to bother me there were no playable female protagonist in gta 5 for ex or did female characters historically have major roles

you can kill anyone, but that is besides the point

having no female protagonist, little to no female characters with major roles, and on top of having female prostitutes you can pick up, have sex with and kill is the issue

Go play a game with a female protagonist. There are plenty of those. I doubt you played gta 5. I bet you're only repeating feminist talking points.

If gta 5 was making you uncomfortable then change your game.

Your issue is that you want a form of entertainment to conform to your personal ethics. That's not how the world works. Only a narcissistic bitch would think it does.

No one is forcing you to play any game you don't want. But you think it's ok to try and force devs and creators to make a product for a demographic that's not even interested in the industry.

Before gta v what was the last game you played?

@Madame_CJSkywalker

 

[LordZuko]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Females dont make up a significant percentage of the comic industry market.

The sales nose dive in marvel and smaller indie companies like idw image prove that.

Females make up about 4% of the market. The propaganda that females make up 40% is one of the biggest lies that has backfired.

Marvel flagship titles and characters are selling at levels that would have gotten books cancelled 20 years ago.

Captain marvel

Squirrel girl

Wasp

Fem thor

Cuck spiderman

None of these titles sell. These are books that cater to females, or rather feminist interests. And they can't sell over 25k.

Females dont read comics. Females like to cosplay. They like to play dress up and go to cons, or post pictures on the internet to elicit donations.

This falls in line with typical female behavior.

receipts?

otherwise from what i read more than a quarter of video gamers and computer gamers are women int he untied states
https://www.statista.com/statistics/232383/gender-split-of-us-computer-and-video-gamers/

as far as with comics there isn't a lot of market research

according to facebook 24 million US comic book fans and yet the best selling books barely sell 100k at best. more than 40% identify as being female. so really no conclusive arguments can be made other than these ppl are potential customers given the right material and marketing
https://graphicpolicy.com/2014/02/01/facebook-fandom-spotlight-who-are-the-us-comic-fans-5/
https://graphicpolicy.com/2013/09/02/facebook-fandom-spotlight-fans-of-female-comic-characters/

also female comic book character fans are largely female. no surpirse ppl like things they can relate too. that said, just because the wasp isn't selling doesn't mean women and girls don't read comics. it could mean the stories and characters could just be bad

and i'm not sure how any of this could be used to make the case promoting and celebrating diversity is not a worthy cause

We are talking comic books so why you brought up video games is irrelevant.

Just because you claim to be a fan of something does not mean you buy anything.

Most females are fans of comic book characters and have even the slightest information about them because of movies.

If 40% of comic fans are females then the industry wouldn't be on the brink of collapse.

The majority of females can't name female comic book characters outside wonder woman black widow supergirl and batgirl. Mary Jane. Basically characters that are in popular media.

Females follow after what is trendy and popular.

You just quoted Facebook as a source. I can't even begin. You sure you have a stem degree?

The best selling comic book cant even touch post collapse figures because marvel and dc have been infested with sjws and feminists who have this male alienating agenda for the past 2-3 years. Males aren't buying what their selling. You made my point for me.

lol

major companies use facebook as a marketing tool and to track trends

as i was saying 24 million US comic book fans and yet the best selling books barely sell 100k at best. that tells me both women, men, poc, etc are all unsatisfied with the product

one reason could be the stories and characters supposedly created with women and girls in mind our could just be bad...many are still written largely by men...

and please provide data, numbers to actually back up ur claims...please prove me wrong

otherwise you are just perpetuating negative stereotypes, i.e. "females only like what is trendy", at this point

@Madame_CJSkywalker

Each of these small videos rebuts your points






These are literally responses to your implications. Im not gonna go dig for numbers and point out comichron sales figures before sjw marvel and after. Not to someone who is so lazy they will cite Facebook as a reference, seriously and infer some type of market forecast from it.

Nope. This is the homework you should've done before you typed your dumb opinions.

I suggest you all watch these.

 

[DoubleShotHelix]

Bitches outchea jealous of bitches that don't even exist.

Chicks outchea constructing entire arguments, making life changing decisions and declarations based on shit that doesn't even really exist.

If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about feminist and women in general idk what to tell you.

Every straight man on earth has said to his woman at least once " you tripping/mad over nothing"

And this thread proves that sentiment to the utmost both literally and figuratively

 

[LordZuko]

Confession: I'm a Jack ass.

Here i am with the fellas talking about how females suck the fun out of everything.

And along comes a female exemplifying the very thing we are talking about.

Instead of me calling her out i allow myself to get trapped into another of her pointless trolls.

@Madame_CJSkywalker go back and read your posts. Do you sound like someone that people want to be around for a good time?

Has anyone ever called you to kick it? Have you ever made a fun situation more fun?

Yesterday i summoned her to the fave fight scene thread in lca. Never showed up. Because she doesn't watch action movies. She probably thinks they are dumb.

That's cool bc no female posted in the thread. Because like comic books and video games the average female don't rock with action movies.

And that's cool.

Whats not cool is females demanding that men change around fun shit to make it palatable for them, under some weak guise of "but what about the children" everything ain't for everybody.

You trying to make this equitable outcome ruins everything.

There's nothing stopping girls from making the games the comics and movies they want.

 

[jono]

Bitches outchea jealous of bitches that don't even exist.

Chicks outchea constructing entire arguments, making life changing decisions and declarations based on shit that doesn't even really exist.

If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about feminist and women in general idk what to tell you.

Every straight man on earth has said to his woman at least once " you tripping/mad over nothing"

And this thread proves that sentiment to the utmost both literally and figuratively

Full disclosure: I considered myself a male feminist. I'm all for equal opportunity, pay equality (considering they have the same experience and other variables). You wanna talk about domestic abuse and rape? I fully support women 7 times outta 10

But when you start talking about nonsense like the "male gaze" and attacking people for enjoying something you personally feel objectifies or ridicules women, and its based on nothing more than your personal feelings....FUCK OFF.

When you want to say crazy shit on twitter and get mad when a dude comes back at you...FUCK OFF

You want to claim you were harassed after you tweeted or blogged some hateful, ignorant shit...DEAL WITH IT.

That shit ain't got nothing to do with women's rights. It's got something to do with your personal attitude and behavior.

Radical feminists don't speak for all women, they don't even speak for most women. They speak for themselves and all the other pink haired dog moms out there. Most women don't care about the tits on a cartoon or a comic book character. For fucks sake, get real.

 

[jono]

This shit is about money.

Women (like hoteps and other activists) have found that there is tremendous money in writing books and speaking engagements where they can whine about sexism or racism or homophobia or transphobia.

This shit is an industry. Complaining is what people do for a living now. They get rewards, they become famous, and they get treated with kid gloves. Special privileges to say whatever they want and all kinds of shit.

This explosion of for profit "social criticism/activism" cheapens legitimate concern. Anna Sarkeesian made it all the way to congress to talk about being "harassed" on twitter.

Can you imagine wasting congress' time on twitter beef?! Is that what we're paying for?

It's that type of shit that turns my stomach. That's the kind of shit the world hates. We waste resources on petty complaints like "cyber-harassment" and the "male gaze."

 

[Colin$mackabi$h]

Madame whats your favorite dbz saga?

 

[LordZuko]

@jono is a male feminist. That explains so much.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

Madame whats your favorite dbz saga?

that's hard

maybe the imperfect cell saga

my favorite fight is probably when goku and vegeta first fought

 

[jono]

@jono is a male feminist. That explains so much.

They have good points from time to time. Shit ain't perfect for women but shit ain't that bad either.

It's on a continuum. Radical nonsense needs to halted so legit concerns can be addressed.

Female game devs and comic creators can make their own products and sell them digitally and through hard copies, there's no need for the bitching they do.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!

Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a fuck.

People give a fuck when you decide to change what they want into some shit you want.

Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging shit somewhere else, niggas was having fun over here.

If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.

All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... Shit is arrogant as fuck.

Everything ain't about you and your politics.

Get the fuck on!

get out your feelings

comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days

in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians

and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market

again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past

is that bad? lol

this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking

The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.

Female writers and editors going back 30 years

Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this shit you talking about?

lol

in video games and comics?

the humor

they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization

the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters

same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines

we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and kill female prostitutes

wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence

Actually know the facts. You have no credibility on this topic. You can kill anyone in GTA, not just prostitutes. You obviously never played the game or are just pushing an agenda.

The second bold, so you never were allowed to read comics but claiming women were represented a certain way...how would you know if you weren't allowed to read them? Once again, you are pushing an agenda based on no facts at all. Then it wouldn't matter anyway since your parents were against comic violence lol.

Stop talking about things you have no knowledge or experience with. It makes you look ignorant.

i'm 30 ...i have been able do as i please without the consent of my parents for a while including read comics

i have 4 older brothers who enjoy comics

and been a fan of gta since it was 2d lol

not til i got older did i grow uncomfortable with the game play and it started to bother me there were no playable female protagonist in gta 5 for ex or did female characters historically have major roles

you can kill anyone, but that is besides the point

having no female protagonist, little to no female characters with major roles, and on top of having female prostitutes you can pick up, have sex with and kill is the issue

Go play a game with a female protagonist. There are plenty of those. I doubt you played gta 5. I bet you're only repeating feminist talking points.

If gta 5 was making you uncomfortable then change your game.

Your issue is that you want a form of entertainment to conform to your personal ethics. That's not how the world works. Only a narcissistic bitch would think it does.

No one is forcing you to play any game you don't want. But you think it's ok to try and force devs and creators to make a product for a demographic that's not even interested in the industry.

Before gta v what was the last game you played?

@Madame_CJSkywalker

right now i'm playing breath of the wild and nba 2k alil

dope how nba live now has wnba teams

but yea the issue is there aren't a great variety of games with female protagonist...things are changing though

lol @ narcissistic bitch ....

like others i just want video games, comic industry to not perpetuate negative, sexist stereotypes

and realize women and poc like the shit too...we want to see more of ourselves in a variety of different capacities ....and not just characters that are villains or comic relief or tokens or sexual objects

as a customer of these products think we all have a bit of a right to make request or voice our complaints ...same as ppl can argue the new iron man being a blk girl is a stupid idea

but sure i would think i was being petty or it was just me "nagging" if i was a straight man too

*shrugs*

 

[jetlifebih]

Bae plays 2k??

Do you play destiny?

 

[VulcanRaven]

@VulcanRaven

Lol

Video games rarely cater to girls and women stop

Please dont name the sims or kirby lol

Im Fox new but im tryna argument why diversity and inclusiveness is important and lacking in video games and comics???

Stop

Girls usually like the Sims, which means it caters to them. They had Nintendogs, Barbie Games, Pokemon, Sing Star, Rockband, Guitar Hero, racing games and games that had female characters. You don't know anything about games. There are millions of female gamers playing GTA, COD, Battlefield, Uncharted, The Last of Us and Overwatch. Destiny is also popular with female gamers as is Bloodborne and Dark Souls. Should I post links to female streamers @Madame_CJSkywalker ?

 

[VulcanRaven]

Your argument is predicated on bullshit you read online and not facts.

Metroid had a female lead in the 80s, it was actually progressive as you didn't know Samus was a girl until the end of the game. Nobody complained, she was depicted as being awesome...full stop, not "lesbo girl power awesome!"

One of the biggest game franchises of the 90s was Tomb Raider. You played EXCLUSIVELY as a woman archeologist (so yes, woman and "the science") they even made movies starring Angelina Jolie and the franchise was rebooted in the 2010s with another film on the way.

Resident Evil had plenty of female leads. The entire Resident Evil film line had a female lead...every single one and there's like 10 of them.

Resident Evil knock offs like Paradise Eve and Dino Crisis also had female leads.

Bayonnetta was popular in the 00s, female lead. Bloodrayne also (which garnered two small budget movies)

The Final Fantasy series had an all female cast before. Several games with female leads. Final Fantasy is a huge franchise.

Where is your argument?! That's 30 years of females in gaming and nobody gave a shit.

Females in fighting games are just as capable as the men. Where's the sexism? The sexism is they have boobs that are nicer than yours, I bet. There's no lack of diversity.

There's a lack of honesty and integrity in censors who want to ruin everyone else's fun. Grow up.

On top of that Sony just released 3 games this year with female leads and one has sold over 4 million copies already. Madame on some bullshit.

 

[VulcanRaven]

I'll address your dumb argument.

Females read manga and are generally more interested in anime than in comics.

The Japanese art form has sub categorized manga into types that appeal to a variety of people.

The manga that girls tend to read have to do with drama and other typical female shit.

The genre boys tend to read are shonen and action based hero's journey stories.

It would be foolish for the makers of a manga like dragonball or naruto, typical shonen, and switch it up to draw in females. They would lose one audience trying to get another. Collapse.

In contrast American superhero genre is one giant shonen. It's all male centered and the characters typically go through This hero's journey arc: batman super man iron man spider man, all These characters go through an origin tale that is essentially about male responsibility and duty. Two things Females have no interest in responsibility and duty.

The comic book industry, American shonen is male centered. Nothing wrong with that. Males typically like danger and adventure. Evidenced by the fact it is mostly men who in real life engage in risky and perilous behavior, and suffer from death by misadventure. So it's only natural that boys are drawn to comic book adventures. Males believe it or not are also attracted to attractive women so the females depicted are going to appeal to those desires.

Comic books are losing sales because they are trying to split the difference and gain Two audiences that largely have opposing interests. So American comics have lost males and have not gained Females. They keep trying to gain Females by warping the industry but it is not successful.

Females have every right and opportunity to engage and participate in the industry at every level, and they have. But you want the outcome to go against the grain of male and female proclivities and that's stupid and short sighted.

you believe females aren't interested in responsibility and duty? smh.... yet u r the serious reasonable, one????

even though sales have been going up, the comic book industry has been consistently losing sales for a long time.... the push for diversity and to expand its audience is a response that ....one of many

there is a large proportion of women and poc who love all types of comics, manga to spider man to preacher to naruto but don't feel like they see themselves and feel as they aren't being properly depicted by major studios i'm speaking for them and from what i've observed personally

same as i can name plenty of blk characters from popular tv, you can name storm and wonder woman alike, but the fact still remains women and poc are underrepresented ....and fact remains in many of the roles for women and poc are not as substantive as their male counter parts (particularly white males) and perpetuate negative stereotypes

and obviously we nothing wrong with wanting to look at attractive ppl but the female characters all tend to be hypersexualized which can impact beliefs about gender roles, body esteem, and self objectification

that said, if the major studios and to a lesser extent hired more women and poc artists, editors, writers, etc their efforts to promote diversity and inclusiveness would be more successful....

and i love dragon ball z growing up as well as other women i know. not all women want to read love stories and such. plenty of us who like straight action and adventure. this idea that we don't exist or don't matter is sexist. that said, why would adding more diversity and substantial roles for female fighters in something like dragon ball not work or drive away male fans???

same with video games... why would adding a playable female character to gta and other popular franchises drive away male fans? why would excluding misogynistic content drive away real fans? is the sexism and the gratuitous violence is what really make these games great?

You can create your character in GTA Online, which is what many women do and why they play it. The story wouldn't make sense adding a woman since realistically the type of crime being committed by the characters are not committed by women. Why would you even want women to be represented as criminals in games anyway? You can not deny that certain things are associated with male or female gender. That is just a fact.

 

[VulcanRaven]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!

Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a fuck.

People give a fuck when you decide to change what they want into some shit you want.

Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging shit somewhere else, niggas was having fun over here.

If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.

All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... Shit is arrogant as fuck.

Everything ain't about you and your politics.

Get the fuck on!

get out your feelings

comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days

in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians

and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market

again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past

is that bad? lol

this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking

The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.

Female writers and editors going back 30 years

Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this shit you talking about?

lol

in video games and comics?

the humor

they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization

the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters

same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines

we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and kill female prostitutes

wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence

Actually know the facts. You have no credibility on this topic. You can kill anyone in GTA, not just prostitutes. You obviously never played the game or are just pushing an agenda.

The second bold, so you never were allowed to read comics but claiming women were represented a certain way...how would you know if you weren't allowed to read them? Once again, you are pushing an agenda based on no facts at all. Then it wouldn't matter anyway since your parents were against comic violence lol.

Stop talking about things you have no knowledge or experience with. It makes you look ignorant.

i'm 30 ...i have been able do as i please without the consent of my parents for a while including read comics

i have 4 older brothers who enjoy comics

and been a fan of gta since it was 2d lol

not til i got older did i grow uncomfortable with the game play and it started to bother me there were no playable female protagonist in gta 5 for ex or did female characters historically have major roles

you can kill anyone, but that is besides the point

having no female protagonist, little to no female characters with major roles, and on top of having female prostitutes you can pick up, have sex with and kill is the issue

You don't have to do anything lol. Killing prostitutes is a choice. Why does GTA need female characters as a lead or support? It won't make the game better and that is pushing an agenda once again. The characters in GTA are irrelevant if you enjoy the game. Go play a game that has a female lead or supporting characters. There are many. Out of all the fucked up shit in GTA you are angry about the ability to kill a prostitute? rofl

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

Confession: I'm a Jack ass.

Here i am with the fellas talking about how females suck the fun out of everything.

And along comes a female exemplifying the very thing we are talking about.

Instead of me calling her out i allow myself to get trapped into another of her pointless trolls.

@Madame_CJSkywalker go back and read your posts. Do you sound like someone that people want to be around for a good time?

Has anyone ever called you to kick it? Have you ever made a fun situation more fun?

Yesterday i summoned her to the fave fight scene thread in lca. Never showed up. Because she doesn't watch action movies. She probably thinks they are dumb.

That's cool bc no female posted in the thread. Because like comic books and video games the average female don't rock with action movies.

And that's cool.

Whats not cool is females demanding that men change around fun shit to make it palatable for them, under some weak guise of "but what about the children" everything ain't for everybody.

You trying to make this equitable outcome ruins everything.

There's nothing stopping girls from making the games the comics and movies they want.

lol

there are literally only 3,4 reg female posters on this site...

and you need money and backing to make video games.... money to market comics... that's a part of the problem

but yea i prob wouldn't find you that fun either

and i do like action movies like a lot of women.... do you interact, socialize with a lot of women on anything other than a superficial level??? have a lot of female friends who aren't trying to fuck?

logan, mad max have been some of my favorite movies the last few years though....don't get to watch a lot of movies though

maybe i say we like action with a good story....opposed to just action for the sake of action....but that's prob the case for most adults

 

[VulcanRaven]

How ridiculous. People don't have water, people don't have homes, people don't have rights but by gawd we gotta fight the male gaze.

lol

smh

says the person crying about women wanting fair and balance representation across mediums

what about your priorities bruh

i'm only responding to a thread you created

Co sign this shit to the fullest.

Wtf are those developers, artists etc thinking using their so called imagination, creativity and dare I say it...free will and money...

We need panels...people who check these fools worldwide on the shit they make up. Put everyone in boxes and corner them all up so that people of all walks of life are probably represented...

Shit, I for one am absolutely disgusted that senior citizens did not get the proper representation in Dragon Ball Super...Japan has more elderly than young folk.

And why are there barely any bald headed or bearded up super heroes? Evidently there are loads of bald headed mofos out there....and what did we get? One punch man? The fuck? Batman has been rocking the cowl for decades yet his hairline never fades?

Worst book ever written was the Lord of the rings..orcs, dwarves, wizards....but no Asian women?

And don't even get me started on game of thrones...white walkers? No black walkers? Mist be two sides.

Like you I'm tired and fed up reading, watching and hearing all types of shit other people created that doesn't reflect my grand understanding of the world.

You are on point, but you missed the biggest issue of all with Game of Thrones. Why no land dragons b? She got flying dragons but not all dragons can fly. Why they don't add no diversity by having land dragons. They can't fly but they are still dragons.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

Your argument is predicated on bullshit you read online and not facts.

Metroid had a female lead in the 80s, it was actually progressive as you didn't know Samus was a girl until the end of the game. Nobody complained, she was depicted as being awesome...full stop, not "lesbo girl power awesome!"

One of the biggest game franchises of the 90s was Tomb Raider. You played EXCLUSIVELY as a woman archeologist (so yes, woman and "the science") they even made movies starring Angelina Jolie and the franchise was rebooted in the 2010s with another film on the way.

Resident Evil had plenty of female leads. The entire Resident Evil film line had a female lead...every single one and there's like 10 of them.

Resident Evil knock offs like Paradise Eve and Dino Crisis also had female leads.

Bayonnetta was popular in the 00s, female lead. Bloodrayne also (which garnered two small budget movies)

The Final Fantasy series had an all female cast before. Several games with female leads. Final Fantasy is a huge franchise.

Where is your argument?! That's 30 years of females in gaming and nobody gave a shit.

Females in fighting games are just as capable as the men. Where's the sexism? The sexism is they have boobs that are nicer than yours, I bet. There's no lack of diversity.

There's a lack of honesty and integrity in censors who want to ruin everyone else's fun. Grow up.

On top of that Sony just released 3 games this year with female leads and one has sold over 4 million copies already. Madame on some bullshit.

Lol

Sigh

U r right things are changing finally

With games like zero dawn

Couldn't say the same 10, 15 yrs ago

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this shit is fake. I grew up under the impression that niggas who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no pussy and were actively shunned by outsiders.

A movie like the 40 Year Old Virgin encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some pussy? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was pussy repellent.

For years this was true:

But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics

true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie shit like super Mario or Kirby though.

That's what folks dont get.

Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same shit men read.

People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!

Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem

And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society

The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money

That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and gays now that they have more buying power

Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with

There are more blk super heroes

And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?

Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate

Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it

*shrugs*

Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc

Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!

Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a fuck.

People give a fuck when you decide to change what they want into some shit you want.

Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging shit somewhere else, niggas was having fun over here.

If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.

All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... Shit is arrogant as fuck.

Everything ain't about you and your politics.

Get the fuck on!

get out your feelings

comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days

in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians

and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market

again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past

is that bad? lol

this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking

The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.

Female writers and editors going back 30 years

Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this shit you talking about?

lol

in video games and comics?

the humor

they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization

the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters

same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines

we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and kill female prostitutes

wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence

Actually know the facts. You have no credibility on this topic. You can kill anyone in GTA, not just prostitutes. You obviously never played the game or are just pushing an agenda.

The second bold, so you never were allowed to read comics but claiming women were represented a certain way...how would you know if you weren't allowed to read them? Once again, you are pushing an agenda based on no facts at all. Then it wouldn't matter anyway since your parents were against comic violence lol.

Stop talking about things you have no knowledge or experience with. It makes you look ignorant.

i'm 30 ...i have been able do as i please without the consent of my parents for a while including read comics

i have 4 older brothers who enjoy comics

and been a fan of gta since it was 2d lol

not til i got older did i grow uncomfortable with the game play and it started to bother me there were no playable female protagonist in gta 5 for ex or did female characters historically have major roles

you can kill anyone, but that is besides the point

having no female protagonist, little to no female characters with major roles, and on top of having female prostitutes you can pick up, have sex with and kill is the issue

You don't have to do anything lol. Killing prostitutes is a choice. Why does GTA need female characters as a lead or support? It won't make the game better and that is pushing an agenda once again. The characters in GTA are irrelevant if you enjoy the game. Go play a game that has a female lead or supporting characters. There are many. Out of all the fucked up sgit in GTA you are angry about the ability to kill a prostitute? rofl

No gta a lot of fucked up shit happens, can happen

But considering that female prositutes are some of the most vulnerable and preyed upon members of our society along with the fact no female characters played prominent roles tht made it even more disturbing