The Nag Hammadi Text and The Sethianism

[beenwize]

Look homie, save the bullshit.... I replied because your research and theory was incorrect. You provided no proof of anything other than some pictures from a google image search.

What you see below is not a theory located on google images. It's a fact in reality.

this is just some proof there is much more, but my initial question is what is the connection between the pyramid "eye of Ra" and the old testament God thru masonic organizations. You haven't answered that initial question... You only claimed that the "all seeing eye" was really the "eye of horus" not realizing that it is also called the "eye of Ra"

This is the Ancient Egyptian Masonic "all seeing eye" of Amen-Ra

This is a book from a Masonic organization that uses the old testament god Jehova with the "all seeing eye"

This is the Masonic Jehova witness pyrmaid

This is the Masonic one dollar bill depicting the "all seeing eye"

 

[bambu]

According to the Nag Hammadi gosepls they believe Yah/Jehova to be the DEMIURGE God of this material world. This is said to be all allegorical for representing the Sun and/or the planet Saturn... I was doing some research and I wonder why masonic organizations in past used the "all seeing eye" of Amen-Ra who is the Ancient Egyptian sun god? And why do certain masonic organizations use it today for the old testament god in freemason books and for Jehova witness pyramid???

Actually you stated that Yah represented the sun and/or the planet Saturn and tried to connect it to the sun god Amen-Ra, and then tried to connect it to freemasonry and Jehovah's witnesses.

What research and theory was incorrect? The use of the "all seeing eye of Ra" is a valid fact and I posted the images for proof.

1. The Jehovah witness pyramid is a valid fact.

2. The masonic book titled "Under the shadow of Jehova's wing" is a valid fact.

3. The use of Amen-Ra in the masonic Bible is a valid fact.

4. Egyptian Pharoah Ahkenanten banning the worship of other gods in favor of Aten who is ALSO an aspect of the sun god Amen-Ra is a valid fact. So if I said Amen-Ra at first it's still an aspect of the same sun god.

5. The use of the "all seeing eye of Ra' for god on the dollar bill is a valid fact.

6. Go back and re-read my first post and understand that your reply was irrelevant to my post in the first place. I asked a question and your reply was not an answer to it but a cry and rant. Lol chill out buddy.

7. You answered my question about Hebrew saying you have no idea because you are not one of them.

1.-3. Yes, Europeans did attempt to replicate and unlock the secrets of the ancients.

4. You are mistaken about the roles that gods played in ancient Egypt, How could one ban or outlaw a god and remain an aspect of that god. The Aten was no longer an aspect of the sun god during Ahkenaten's reign. (see. Atenism). So if you said the Aten was an aspect of the Amun-Ra you were wrong.

5. The American dollar contains an "all seeing eye" but not the "all seeing eye of Ra". Again the eye of Horus is the sky, therefore Ra resides in Horus. From this it can be called the "all seeing eye of Ra." The ancients had symbols or representations for each. If they mentioned the sun god they would use its symbolism, if they mentioned the god of the sky they used its symbolism.

6. Your original post is an example of how rumors get started.

7. I answered your question by telling you they copied from their former masters, but also that I could not speak for them because I am not associated with them.

The bottom line is that your associating the representation of Yah as the sun/or Saturn with the Amen-Ra through the "all seeing eye" is not strong enough to be considered seriously. If the eye was used by the ancients then the symbols should be interpreted for what they originally represented. Therefore your "all seeing eye of Ra" could actually be the "all seeing eye of Horus" essentially making your theory or research connections incorrect.

 

[bambu]

That's not true, all of my post were not changed unless I added something to it. The only thing i removed from my post was where I stated Ahkenatan banned other gods and left Amen-Ra becuz when I did the research I found the same story using various sources and I can show the links to prove it. Aten is a SUN DISK god and Ra is a SUN god. Aten is also an aspect of the same sun god Ra so there is no big difference between Amen-Ra, Ra, or Aten they are all SUN DEITIES. Either way that had nothing to do with my initial question.

This is not true you removed the "proof" of a picture from a tattoo shop and several other small details from your argument. I grow weary of correcting your understanding of the ancients. You should do more research before you attempt to interpret and connect ancient symbols.

 

[beenwize]

Actually you stated that Yah represented the sun and/or the planet Saturn and tried to connect it to the sun god Amen-Ra, and then tried to connect it to freemasonry and Jehovah's witnesses..

You must have missed where I said "according to the Nag hammadi gospels" he is allegorical for representing the sun and/or Satun... You probably don't know this if you have not read any of the Nag hammadi gospels. One of the names he is referred to in those gospels is Yaldabaoth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon

Yaldabaoth, called also Saklas and Samael
Saturn.
Feminine name: Pronoia (Forethought) Sambathas, "week".
Prophets:[9] Moses, Joshua, Amos, Habakkuk.
From Hebrew yalda bahut, "Child of Chaos"? The outermost who created the six others, and therefore the chief ruler and Demiurge par excellence. Called "the Lion-faced", leontoeides.

1.-3. Yes, Europeans did attempt to replicate and unlock the secrets of the ancients.

4. You are mistaken about the roles that gods played in ancient Egypt, How could one ban or outlaw a god and remain an aspect of that god. The Aten was no longer an aspect of the sun god during Ahkenaten's reign. (see. Atenism). So if you said the Aten was an aspect of the Amun-Ra you were wrong..

I meant to say he is an aspect of the Sun god Ra so if you say he was no longer an aspect anymore that is meaningless since they both were SUN DEITIES and last time I checked there is only 1 sun in existence. You are just saying he stopped worship of the sun under the name Ra in favor of the name Aten, ok.. See below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aten

Aten (also Aton, Egyptian jtn) is the disk of the sun in ancient Egyptian mythology, and originally an aspect of Ra. The deified Aten is the focus of the monolatristic, henotheistic, or monotheistic religion of Atenism established by Amenhotep IV, who later took the name Akhenaten in worship in recognition of Aten. In his poem "Great Hymn to the Aten", Akhenaten praises Aten as the creator, and giver of life. Some scholars have speculated that Psalm 104 may have been influenced by this hymn.[1]

5. The American dollar contains an "all seeing eye" but not the "all seeing eye of Ra". Again the eye of Horus is the sky, therefore Ra resides in Horus. From this it can be called the "all seeing eye of Ra." The ancients had symbols or representations for each. If they mentioned the sun god they would use its symbolism, if they mentioned the god of the sky they used its symbolism..

The American dollar "all seeing eye" comes directly from the "all seeing eye of Ra" along with the pyramid symbol so I don't understand the point you are trying to make by saying it is not the eye of Ra.

6. Your original post is an example of how rumors get started..

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These are not rumors but questions that have been asked by many people and sparked interest in myself to do research looking for answers. Can't deny whats fact.

7. I answered your question by telling you they copied from their former masters, but also that I could not speak for them because I am not associated with them..

This is why I don't understand why you would reply in the first place if you couldn't provide an answer.

The bottom line is that your associating the representation of Yah as the sun/or Saturn with the Amen-Ra through the "all seeing eye" is not strong enough to be considered seriously. If the eye was used by the ancients then the symbols should be interpreted for what they originally represented. Therefore your "all seeing eye of Ra" could actually be the "all seeing eye of Horus" essentially making your theory or research connections incorrect.

I'm not associating anything with anything but masonic organizations are associating the old testament god with the "eye of Ra' and egyptian pyramid which in turn sparked interest in myself to question this... There are many other people that have asked this same question and you would know if you had done research on this matter. The use of the pyramid for Jehovah by masonic organization is not a theory its a fact as well as it's use for the masnic book and many other things I haven't listed. So to say the least I don't understand your reply to my post if you were not able to provide any answer to my initial question.

 

[beenwize]

This is not true you removed the "proof" of a picture from a tattoo shop and several other small details from your argument. I grow weary of correcting your understanding of the ancients. You should do more research before you attempt to interpret and connect ancient symbols.

I am not the one doing the connecting, the masonic organization are doing the connecting. I am questioning why they are connecting these symbols with the old testament god.

Also my statement was entirely true the only pic I removed was another symbol of the Eye of Ra. Your argument here is that the all seeing eye is really called the "eye of Horus" but you are clearly limited in your research becuz it is also called the "eye of Ra" but still none of this has anything to do with my initial question in the first place.

 

[bambu]

I am not the one doing the connecting, the masonic organization are doing the connecting. I am questioning why they are connecting these symbols with the old testament god.

Also my statement was entirely true the only pic I removed was another symbol of the Eye of Ra. Your argument here is that the all seeing eye is really called the "eye of Horus" but you are clearly limited in your research becuz it is also called the "eye of Ra" but still none of this has anything to do with my initial question in the first place.

You posting all these comic and modern images of the "eye of Ra" does not validate its use in the ancient world....You also went on about how flipping the eye you could trace the letter R for Ra. C'mon Son....I am glad that you are using wiki for your research, it is a start. If you dig a bit deeper you will find the foundation of my research. I did not come here to answer your questions, just to point out flaws in your research that you have since admitted to.

 

[beenwize]

You posting all these comic and modern images of the "eye of Ra" does not validate its use in the ancient world....You also went on about how flipping the eye you could trace the letter R for Ra. C'mon Son....I am glad that you are using wiki for your research, it is a start. If you dig a bit deeper you will find the foundation of my research. I did not come here to answer your questions, just to point out flaws in your research that you have since admitted to.

Listen, I didn't post in this thread to debate with you weather the "all seeing eye" is called the "Eye of Horus" or the "Eye of Ra" as that has nothing to do with my initial question. The image I posted wasn't a comic book it was a regular book. There are many Egyptologist and historians that refer to it as the "Eye of Ra" case in point Asa Grant Hilliard III book titled Waset, The Eye of Ra and the Abode of Maat: The Pinnacle of Black Leadership in the Ancient World." Yosef A.A. (Alfredo Antonio) Ben-Jochannan in his book "African Origins of Major Western Religions" refers to the all seeing eye as the "eye of Ra" so for you to come in here to debate on what it's called is meaningless. I doubt you are more researched in Egypt than any of these well established men whose foundation goes way deeper than any of your hearsay. Also there was no flaws in my research the only flaw you are stating is that the all seeing eye is called "eye of Horus" in YOUR opinion which I have showed many well established Egyptologist don't agree with you. And if you didn't come in here to answer my question then don't bother to reply because this was nothing but a waste of time with you.

Peace.

 

[bambu]

Listen, I didn't post in this thread to debate with you weather the "all seeing eye" is called the "Eye of Horus" or the "Eye of Ra" as that has nothing to do with my initial question. The image I posted wasn't a comic book it was a regular book. There are many Egyptologist and historians that refer to it as the "Eye of Ra" case in point Asa Grant Hilliard III book titled Waset, The Eye of Ra and the Abode of Maat: The Pinnacle of Black Leadership in the Ancient World." Yosef A.A. (Alfredo Antonio) Ben-Jochannan in his book "African Origins of Major Western Religions" refers to the all seeing eye as the "eye of Ra" so for you to come in here to debate on what it's called is meaningless. I doubt you are more researched in Egypt than any of these well established men whose foundation goes way deeper than any of your hearsay. Also there was no flaws in my research the only flaw you are stating is that the all seeing eye is called "eye of Horus" in YOUR opinion which I have showed many well established Egyptologist don't agree with you. And if you didn't come in here to answer my question then don't bother to reply because this was nothing but a waste of time with you.

Peace.

It has been a waste of time debating with an individual that goes back and changes his posts after he is proven incorrect. This is a comic book nigga.....

The symbol called The eye of Horus, has also been written as Wedjat,Uadjet, Wedjoyet, Edjo or Uto and as The Eye of Ra or "Udjat"...... No matter what it is called it represents the same thing... the sky god Horus.... The right eye of Horus represents the sun or Ra and the left eye represents the moon or Toth. Together they make up the "all seeing" eyes of the sky god Horus.

Name dropping Dr. Ben will not help further your argument as I am sure he understood the complexities involved in deciphering ancient symbols. Using the term "the eye of Ra" is generic and is mostly used to describe this symbol to individuals not familiar with the lesser known gods of Horus and Toth and how their duality composed the all seeing eyes of Horus.(God)...simplified Ra. You have provided zero evidence of any well established Egyptologist that does not agree with my argument. Again, the symbol can be called whatever you like...this does not change its meaning.

But I guess this wasn't a complete waste of time because you did learn a few things about the Aten and Amun, even though you edited your posts to appear otherwise.....PEACE

Oh yeah... This is fiction.....

"Book Description

What do you do when you accidentally destroy your history teacher's prized collection of historical artifacts? If you're teenaged delinquents, Aston and Grant, this is more than just a rhetorical question. They've made a huge mistake, one that might cost them everything. Adding to their misery, their history teacher's name is Merlin. Yes, that Merlin, and the answer to their dilemma is deceptively simple according to the old wizard. You go back in time to replace the items you destroyed! Aston and Grant find themselves in ancient Egypt, where their first task is to find and retrieve "The Eye of Ra," a golden amulet owned by none other than King Tut, the boy king of Egypt. Neither of them is all that versed in history, so they have to play it cool and learn as they go. It's not just the amulet that's causing them trouble, either. They soon become friends with Tut, and find that they want to help him out. Surrounded by enemies, needing to survive in a primitive world, Aston and Grant quickly learn one basic truth. History isn't dead when you're living it."

PLAY IT COOL AND LEARN AS YOU GO BROTHER.....

 

[beenwize]

It has been a waste of time debating with an individual that goes back and changes his posts after he is proven incorrect. This is a comic book nigga.....

The symbol called The eye of Horus, has also been written as Wedjat,Uadjet, Wedjoyet, Edjo or Uto and as The Eye of Ra or "Udjat"...... No matter what it is called it represents the same thing... the sky god Horus.... The right eye of Horus represents the sun or Ra and the left eye represents the moon or Toth. Together they make up the "all seeing" eyes of the sky god Horus.

Name dropping Dr. Ben will not help further your argument as I am sure he understood the complexities involved in deciphering ancient symbols. Using the term "the eye of Ra" is generic and is mostly used to describe this symbol to individuals not familiar with the lesser known gods of Horus and Toth and how their duality composed the all seeing eyes of Horus.(God)...simplified Ra. You have provided zero evidence of any well established Egyptologist that does not agree with my argument. Again, the symbol can be called whatever you like...this does not change its meaning.

But I guess this wasn't a complete waste of time because you did learn a few things about the Aten and Amun, even though you edited your posts to appear otherwise.....PEACE

You know damn well I was referring to the latest post that you quoted with the book image ABOVE which is NOT a comic book so you can stop the games and save the bullshyt nigga. That's why you skipped the image ABOVE that you knew I was referring to and went to the previous post from yesterday which was a comic book lol. You have no base in your argument as Dr Ben has much more credibility than you nigga. He referred to the all seeing eye as Eye of Ra and as well as the Eye of Horus in his book which I have read before. Dr Ben is a well established Egyptologist nigga and he agrees that it is both "Eye of Ra" as well as 'Eye of Horus." Now go find some evidence it's not called the Eye of Ra and stop crying dude.

http://kemetichistoryofafrikabluelotus.blogspot.com/2008/09/eye-of-horus-eye-of-ra.html

THE EYE OF HORUS--The Eye of Ra* -
The Eye*
The Wadjet (or Ujat, meaning "Whole One") is a powerful symbol of protection also known as the "Eye of Horus" and the "all seeing eye". The symbol was frequently used in jewellery made of gold, silver, lapis, wood, porcelain, and carnelian, to ensure the safety and health of the bearer and provide wisdom and prosperity. However, it was also known as the "Eye of Ra", a powerful destructive force linked with the fierce heat of the sun which was described as the "Daughter of Ra". The "eye" was personified as the goddess Wadjet and associated with a number of other gods and goddesses (notably Hathor, Bast, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Nekhbet and Mut).

Horus was an ancient a sky god whose eyes were said to be the sun and the moon. However, he soon became strongly associated with the sun (and the sun god Ra as Ra-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the two horizons") while Thoth was associated with the moon. An ancient myth describes a battle between Horus and Set in which Horus´ right eye was torn out and Set lost his testicles! Thoth magically restored Horus´ eye, at which point it was given the name "Wadjet" ("whole" or "healthy"). In this myth it is specifically stated that it is Horus´ left eye which has been torn out, so the myth relates to the waxing and waning of the moon during which the moon appears to have been torn out of the sky before being restored once every lunar month.

There are a number of depictions of the restoration of the eye in Greco-Roman temples. Thoth is assisted by fourteen gods including the gods of the Ennead of Hermopolis or thirty male deities (in Ismant el-Kharab, the Dakhla Oasis). Each god represented one of the fifteen days leading up to the full moon, and to the waning moon. The restored eye became emblematic of the re-establishment of order from chaos, thus closely associating it with the idea of Ma´at. In one myth Horus made a gift of the eye to Osiris to help him rule the netherworld. Osiris ate the eye and was restored to life. As a result, it became a symbol of life and resurrection. Offerings are sometimes called "the Eye of Horus" because it was thought that the goods offered became divine when presented to a god.

The Eye of Ra
According to one myth, Ra (who was at that point the actual Pharaoh of Egypt) was becoming old and weak and the people no longer respected him or his rule. They broke the laws and made jokes at his expense. He did not react well to this and decided to punish mankind by sending an aspect of his daughter, the Eye of Ra. He plucked her from the Ureas (royal serpent) on his brow, and sent her to earth in the form of a lion. She waged war on humanity slaughtering thousands until the fields were awash with human blood. When Ra saw the extent of the devestation he relented and called his daughter back to his side, fearing that she would kill everyone. However, she was in a blood lust and ignored his pleas. So he arranged for 7,000 jugs of beer and pomegranate juice (which stained the beer blood red) to be poured all over the fields around her. She gorged on the "blood" and became so drunk that she slept for three days and awoke with a terrible hangover. Thus mankind was saved from her terrible vengeance.

There are a number of different versions of the myth, and a number of goddesses are given the title "Eye of Ra", in particular Hathor, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Bast, Mut, Nekhbet and Wadjet . The "Daughter of Ra" was sometimes symbolised as a Cat who protected Ra from the serpent Apep (linking it with the leonine aspects of Hathor, Bast, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Mut, Nekhbet and Wadjet amongst others). The Cat was also thought to be able to cure and scorpion or snake bite and was associated with the goddesses Isis (although she is only linked to the symbol in its protective function).

 

[bambu]

Book Description - The eye of Ra by Dakota Chase
What do you do when you accidentally destroy your history teacher's prized collection of historical artifacts? If you're teenaged delinquents, Aston and Grant, this is more than just a rhetorical question. They've made a huge mistake, one that might cost them everything. Adding to their misery, their history teacher's name is Merlin. Yes, that Merlin, and the answer to their dilemma is deceptively simple according to the old wizard. You go back in time to replace the items you destroyed! Aston and Grant find themselves in ancient Egypt, where their first task is to find and retrieve "The Eye of Ra," a golden amulet owned by none other than King Tut, the boy king of Egypt. Neither of them is all that versed in history, so they have to play it cool and learn as they go. It's not just the amulet that's causing them trouble, either. They soon become friends with Tut, and find that they want to help him out. Surrounded by enemies, needing to survive in a primitive world, Aston and Grant quickly learn one basic truth. History isn't dead when you're living it.

You clearly have problems with comprehending what you read.....
SMH @ niggas using fiction books for research.

 

[beenwize]

You clearly have problems with comprehending what you read.....
SMH @ niggas using fiction books for research.

gtfo Dr Ben is a well established Egyptologist that don't produce books of fiction. Go find some credible research that it's not referred to as the "Eye of Ra' or stfu.

You know damn well I was referring to the latest post that you quoted with the book image ABOVE which is NOT a comic book so you can stop the games and save the bullshyt nigga. That's why you skipped the image ABOVE that you knew I was referring to and went to the previous post from yesterday which was a comic book lol. You have no base in your argument as Dr Ben has much more credibility than you nigga. He referred to the all seeing eye as Eye of Ra and as well as the Eye of Horus in his book which I have read before. Dr Ben is a well established Egyptologist nigga and he agrees that it is both "Eye of Ra" as well as 'Eye of Horus." Now go find some evidence it's not called the Eye of Ra and stop crying dude.

http://kemetichistoryofafrikabluelotus.blogspot.com/2008/09/eye-of-horus-eye-of-ra.html

THE EYE OF HORUS--The Eye of Ra* -
The Eye*
The Wadjet (or Ujat, meaning "Whole One") is a powerful symbol of protection also known as the "Eye of Horus" and the "all seeing eye". The symbol was frequently used in jewellery made of gold, silver, lapis, wood, porcelain, and carnelian, to ensure the safety and health of the bearer and provide wisdom and prosperity. However, it was also known as the "Eye of Ra", a powerful destructive force linked with the fierce heat of the sun which was described as the "Daughter of Ra". The "eye" was personified as the goddess Wadjet and associated with a number of other gods and goddesses (notably Hathor, Bast, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Nekhbet and Mut).

Horus was an ancient a sky god whose eyes were said to be the sun and the moon. However, he soon became strongly associated with the sun (and the sun god Ra as Ra-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the two horizons") while Thoth was associated with the moon. An ancient myth describes a battle between Horus and Set in which Horus´ right eye was torn out and Set lost his testicles! Thoth magically restored Horus´ eye, at which point it was given the name "Wadjet" ("whole" or "healthy"). In this myth it is specifically stated that it is Horus´ left eye which has been torn out, so the myth relates to the waxing and waning of the moon during which the moon appears to have been torn out of the sky before being restored once every lunar month.

There are a number of depictions of the restoration of the eye in Greco-Roman temples. Thoth is assisted by fourteen gods including the gods of the Ennead of Hermopolis or thirty male deities (in Ismant el-Kharab, the Dakhla Oasis). Each god represented one of the fifteen days leading up to the full moon, and to the waning moon. The restored eye became emblematic of the re-establishment of order from chaos, thus closely associating it with the idea of Ma´at. In one myth Horus made a gift of the eye to Osiris to help him rule the netherworld. Osiris ate the eye and was restored to life. As a result, it became a symbol of life and resurrection. Offerings are sometimes called "the Eye of Horus" because it was thought that the goods offered became divine when presented to a god.

The Eye of Ra
According to one myth, Ra (who was at that point the actual Pharaoh of Egypt) was becoming old and weak and the people no longer respected him or his rule. They broke the laws and made jokes at his expense. He did not react well to this and decided to punish mankind by sending an aspect of his daughter, the Eye of Ra. He plucked her from the Ureas (royal serpent) on his brow, and sent her to earth in the form of a lion. She waged war on humanity slaughtering thousands until the fields were awash with human blood. When Ra saw the extent of the devestation he relented and called his daughter back to his side, fearing that she would kill everyone. However, she was in a blood lust and ignored his pleas. So he arranged for 7,000 jugs of beer and pomegranate juice (which stained the beer blood red) to be poured all over the fields around her. She gorged on the "blood" and became so drunk that she slept for three days and awoke with a terrible hangover. Thus mankind was saved from her terrible vengeance.

There are a number of different versions of the myth, and a number of goddesses are given the title "Eye of Ra", in particular Hathor, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Bast, Mut, Nekhbet and Wadjet . The "Daughter of Ra" was sometimes symbolised as a Cat who protected Ra from the serpent Apep (linking it with the leonine aspects of Hathor, Bast, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Mut, Nekhbet and Wadjet amongst others). The Cat was also thought to be able to cure and scorpion or snake bite and was associated with the goddesses Isis (although she is only linked to the symbol in its protective function).

 

[bambu]

gtfo Dr Ben is a well established Egyptologist that don't produce books of fiction. Go find some credible research that it's not referred to as the "Eye of Ra' or stfu.

You know damn well I was referring to the latest post that you quoted with the book image ABOVE which is NOT a comic book so you can stop the games and save the bullshyt nigga. That's why you skipped the image ABOVE that you knew I was referring to and went to the previous post from yesterday which was a comic book lol. You have no base in your argument as Dr Ben has much more credibility than you nigga. He referred to the all seeing eye as Eye of Ra and as well as the Eye of Horus in his book which I have read before. Dr Ben is a well established Egyptologist nigga and he agrees that it is both "Eye of Ra" as well as 'Eye of Horus." Now go find some evidence it's not called the Eye of Ra and stop crying dude.

The book you keep flashing is fiction homie..... hope you didn't find too many jewels in it....lol @ your monkey ass

 

[beenwize]

The book you keep flashing is fiction homie..... hope you didn't find too many jewels in it....lol @ your monkey ass

Learn how to READ nigga.

None of the information I'm posting is contained in that book above nigga. The only reason I posted the cover of that book is to show that the all seeing eye is also referred to as the 'Eye of Ra" by many researchers... However the information I am referencing below to is is NOT contained in that book you keep quoting. And the other information I am referring to is in Dr Ben's book titled African Origins of the Major "Western Religions" in which he also refers to it as the 'Eye of Ra"

http://kemetichistoryofafrikabluelotus.blogspot.com/2008/09/eye-of-horus-eye-of-ra.html

THE EYE OF HORUS--The Eye of Ra* -
The Eye*
The Wadjet (or Ujat, meaning "Whole One") is a powerful symbol of protection also known as the "Eye of Horus" and the "all seeing eye". The symbol was frequently used in jewellery made of gold, silver, lapis, wood, porcelain, and carnelian, to ensure the safety and health of the bearer and provide wisdom and prosperity. However, it was also known as the "Eye of Ra", a powerful destructive force linked with the fierce heat of the sun which was described as the "Daughter of Ra". The "eye" was personified as the goddess Wadjet and associated with a number of other gods and goddesses (notably Hathor, Bast, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Nekhbet and Mut).

Horus was an ancient a sky god whose eyes were said to be the sun and the moon. However, he soon became strongly associated with the sun (and the sun god Ra as Ra-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the two horizons") while Thoth was associated with the moon. An ancient myth describes a battle between Horus and Set in which Horus´ right eye was torn out and Set lost his testicles! Thoth magically restored Horus´ eye, at which point it was given the name "Wadjet" ("whole" or "healthy"). In this myth it is specifically stated that it is Horus´ left eye which has been torn out, so the myth relates to the waxing and waning of the moon during which the moon appears to have been torn out of the sky before being restored once every lunar month.

There are a number of depictions of the restoration of the eye in Greco-Roman temples. Thoth is assisted by fourteen gods including the gods of the Ennead of Hermopolis or thirty male deities (in Ismant el-Kharab, the Dakhla Oasis). Each god represented one of the fifteen days leading up to the full moon, and to the waning moon. The restored eye became emblematic of the re-establishment of order from chaos, thus closely associating it with the idea of Ma´at. In one myth Horus made a gift of the eye to Osiris to help him rule the netherworld. Osiris ate the eye and was restored to life. As a result, it became a symbol of life and resurrection. Offerings are sometimes called "the Eye of Horus" because it was thought that the goods offered became divine when presented to a god.

The Eye of Ra
According to one myth, Ra (who was at that point the actual Pharaoh of Egypt) was becoming old and weak and the people no longer respected him or his rule. They broke the laws and made jokes at his expense. He did not react well to this and decided to punish mankind by sending an aspect of his daughter, the Eye of Ra. He plucked her from the Ureas (royal serpent) on his brow, and sent her to earth in the form of a lion. She waged war on humanity slaughtering thousands until the fields were awash with human blood. When Ra saw the extent of the devestation he relented and called his daughter back to his side, fearing that she would kill everyone. However, she was in a blood lust and ignored his pleas. So he arranged for 7,000 jugs of beer and pomegranate juice (which stained the beer blood red) to be poured all over the fields around her. She gorged on the "blood" and became so drunk that she slept for three days and awoke with a terrible hangover. Thus mankind was saved from her terrible vengeance.

There are a number of different versions of the myth, and a number of goddesses are given the title "Eye of Ra", in particular Hathor, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Bast, Mut, Nekhbet and Wadjet . The "Daughter of Ra" was sometimes symbolised as a Cat who protected Ra from the serpent Apep (linking it with the leonine aspects of Hathor, Bast, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Mut, Nekhbet and Wadjet amongst others). The Cat was also thought to be able to cure and scorpion or snake bite and was associated with the goddesses Isis (although she is only linked to the symbol in its protective function).

 

[bambu]

Learn how to READ nigga.

None of the information I'm posting is contained in that book above nigga. The only reason I posted the cover of that book is to show that the all seeing eye is also referred to as the 'Eye of Ra" by many researchers... However the information I am referencing below to is is NOT contained in that book you keep quoting. And the other information I am referring to is in Dr Ben's book titled African Origins of the Major "Western Religions" in which he also refers to it as the 'Eye of Ra"

You are extremely stupid if you think a fiction book is considered research.....

Nigga please.... your only reference to Dr. Ben's work was that he "called it the eye of Ra." I have acknowledged that it was referred to as the eye of Ra, but it was not a symbol attributed to the sun god. The burden of proof is on you to provide evidence that the symbol how you described it is attributed to Ra instead of Horus.

 

[beenwize]

You are extremely stupid if you think a fiction book is considered research.....
Nigga please.... your only reference to Dr. Ben's work was that he "called it the eye of Ra." I have acknowledged that it was referred to as the eye of Ra, but it was not a symbol attributed to the sun god. The burden of proof is on you to provide evidence that the symbol how you described it is attributed to Ra instead of Horus.

Lol why do you keep ignoring the research shown below? You must be mad since you have no evidence to back up your bullshyt claim that the all seeing eye is not also called the "Eye of Ra" Dr Ben refers to it as such in his book dummy.. Can you not understand ENGLISH? gtfo Ra is the fukin Egyptian Sun God dumb nigga. You came in this thread saying it was not called the Eye of Ra don't change it up now dude. LMAO And I never said it wasn't attributed to Horus I said it was attributed to both Ra and Horus. So the burden of proof is on your to prove it's not referred to as the Eye of Ra as you have claimed nigga.

None of the information I'm posting is contained in that book above nigga. The only reason I posted the cover of that book is to show that the all seeing eye is also referred to as the 'Eye of Ra" by many researchers... However the information I am referencing below to is is NOT contained in that book you keep quoting. And the other information I am referring to is in Dr Ben's book titled African Origins of the Major "Western Religions" in which he also refers to it as the 'Eye of Ra"

http://kemetichistoryofafrikabluelotus.blogspot.com/2008/09/eye-of-horus-eye-of-ra.html

THE EYE OF HORUS--The Eye of Ra* -
The Eye*
The Wadjet (or Ujat, meaning "Whole One") is a powerful symbol of protection also known as the "Eye of Horus" and the "all seeing eye". The symbol was frequently used in jewellery made of gold, silver, lapis, wood, porcelain, and carnelian, to ensure the safety and health of the bearer and provide wisdom and prosperity. However, it was also known as the "Eye of Ra", a powerful destructive force linked with the fierce heat of the sun which was described as the "Daughter of Ra". The "eye" was personified as the goddess Wadjet and associated with a number of other gods and goddesses (notably Hathor, Bast, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Nekhbet and Mut).

Horus was an ancient a sky god whose eyes were said to be the sun and the moon. However, he soon became strongly associated with the sun (and the sun god Ra as Ra-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the two horizons") while Thoth was associated with the moon. An ancient myth describes a battle between Horus and Set in which Horus´ right eye was torn out and Set lost his testicles! Thoth magically restored Horus´ eye, at which point it was given the name "Wadjet" ("whole" or "healthy"). In this myth it is specifically stated that it is Horus´ left eye which has been torn out, so the myth relates to the waxing and waning of the moon during which the moon appears to have been torn out of the sky before being restored once every lunar month.

There are a number of depictions of the restoration of the eye in Greco-Roman temples. Thoth is assisted by fourteen gods including the gods of the Ennead of Hermopolis or thirty male deities (in Ismant el-Kharab, the Dakhla Oasis). Each god represented one of the fifteen days leading up to the full moon, and to the waning moon. The restored eye became emblematic of the re-establishment of order from chaos, thus closely associating it with the idea of Ma´at. In one myth Horus made a gift of the eye to Osiris to help him rule the netherworld. Osiris ate the eye and was restored to life. As a result, it became a symbol of life and resurrection. Offerings are sometimes called "the Eye of Horus" because it was thought that the goods offered became divine when presented to a god.

The Eye of Ra
According to one myth, Ra (who was at that point the actual Pharaoh of Egypt) was becoming old and weak and the people no longer respected him or his rule. They broke the laws and made jokes at his expense. He did not react well to this and decided to punish mankind by sending an aspect of his daughter, the Eye of Ra. He plucked her from the Ureas (royal serpent) on his brow, and sent her to earth in the form of a lion. She waged war on humanity slaughtering thousands until the fields were awash with human blood. When Ra saw the extent of the devestation he relented and called his daughter back to his side, fearing that she would kill everyone. However, she was in a blood lust and ignored his pleas. So he arranged for 7,000 jugs of beer and pomegranate juice (which stained the beer blood red) to be poured all over the fields around her. She gorged on the "blood" and became so drunk that she slept for three days and awoke with a terrible hangover. Thus mankind was saved from her terrible vengeance.

There are a number of different versions of the myth, and a number of goddesses are given the title "Eye of Ra", in particular Hathor, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Bast, Mut, Nekhbet and Wadjet . The "Daughter of Ra" was sometimes symbolised as a Cat who protected Ra from the serpent Apep (linking it with the leonine aspects of Hathor, Bast, Sekhmet, Tefnut, Mut, Nekhbet and Wadjet amongst others). The Cat was also thought to be able to cure and scorpion or snake bite and was associated with the goddesses Isis (although she is only linked to the symbol in its protective function).

 

[beenwize]

I have acknowledged that it was referred to as the eye of Ra, but it was not a symbol attributed to the sun god.

It is mistakenly called the all seeing eye of Ra by those ignorant of ancient Egyptian gods and goddesses.

^^^ Lol

You sound dumb as fuk nigga... At first you stated that it was not called the "Eye of Ra" at all but only the 'Eye of Horus" now you changing it up and saying you now acknowledge it was referred to as the eye of Ra which I had been saying all along. Lol

How can you now say it was referred to as the eye of Ra but not the sun god? punk nigga Ra is the Ancient Egyptian SUN god so how can a symbol be attributed to him and not be at the same time?

READ BELOW NIGGA!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra

Ra (alternatively spelled Re and properly transliterated as Rꜥ) is the ancient Egyptian sun god. By the Fifth Dynasty he had become a major deity in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the mid-day sun. The meaning of the name is uncertain, but it is thought that if not a word for 'sun' it may be a variant of or linked to words meaning 'creative power' and 'creator'.[1]

To the Egyptians, the sun represented light, warmth, and growth. This made the sun deity very important as the sun was seen as the ruler of all that he created. The sun disk was either seen as the body or eye of Ra.

 

[bambu]

Lol why do you keep ignoring the research shown below? You must be mad since you have no evidence to back up your bullshyt claim that the all seeing eye is not also called the "Eye of Ra" Dr Ben refers to it as such in his book dummy.. Can you not understand ENGLISH? gtfo Ra is the fukin Egyptian Sun God dumb nigga. You came in this thread saying it was not called the Eye of Ra don't change it up now dude. LMAO

Stupid nigga, just because it is a.k.a. the eye of Ra does not mean that it represents Ra.

This is exactly what I said...."This is not the “all seeing eye” of Amen-Ra. That is the eye of Horus, the Egyptian god of the sky 'The One Far Above'. Horus is represented by the famous “all seeing eye” from above. Amen-Ra was the combination of the Amen “the king of gods” and Ra “the sun god.” Amun was represented as a ram or a man with a ram head. Ra was represented as a man with a sun disk atop a hawk head. So your research connecting Amun Ra, Yah/Jehova, freemasonry, Jay-Z, and Jehovah ’s Witness pyramids is baseless."

So now you change your shit up and dropped the Amen after you were properly schooled.... GTFOHWTBS son!!!! I grow weary of arguing with a nigga that's gonna pull fiction out they ass and claim that it is proper research. You have attempted to deceive by changing your posts to hide the ether and the fact that you have no clue to what the fuck you speak about. I ignore your research links because they are not reliable.(you need more people)

 

[beenwize]

Stupid nigga, just because it is a.k.a. the eye of Ra does not mean that it represents Ra.

This is exactly what I said...."This is not the “all seeing eye” of Amen-Ra. That is the eye of Horus, the Egyptian god of the sky 'The One Far Above'. Horus is represented by the famous “all seeing eye” from above. Amen-Ra was the combination of the Amen “the king of gods” and Ra “the sun god.” Amun was represented as a ram or a man with a ram head. Ra was represented as a man with a sun disk atop a hawk head. So your research connecting Amun Ra, Yah/Jehova, freemasonry, Jay-Z, and Jehovah ’s Witness pyramids is baseless."

So now you change your shit up and dropped the Amen after you were properly schooled.... GTFOHWTBS son!!!! I grow weary of arguing with a nigga that's gonna pull fiction out they ass and claim that it is proper research. You have attempted to deceive by changing your posts to hide the ether and the fact that you have no clue to what the fuck you speak about. I ignore your research links because they are not reliable.(you need more people)

Dumb nigga show some research instead of talking nonsense. I'm posting evidence that it's also referred to as the "Eye of Ra" and not just the 'Eye of Horus" As I stated b4 READ Dr. Ben book and you will learn something. Here is more proof dude.

http://www.netconstructions.com/horus/eye.html

The Eye of Horus is very significant.

Horus was the falcon-headed solar and sky god from ancient Egypt. He is associated with vitality, health and regeneration. Horus was the son of Osiris and Isis. His right eye was white, and represented the sun, and his left eye was black, and represented the moon. According to Egyptian myth, Seth, Horus’s brother, killed Osiris. Horus fought Seth to avenge this death and lost his left eye in the fight. Thoth, the God of magic and the moon, used his powers to reassemble Horus’s eye and returned it to Horus. It was a symbol of the power of the God of light, and therefore a popular amulet for protection and good luck. On presenting his eye to Osiris, Osiris experienced rebirth.

The Eye of Horus symbolizes protection and the bringing of wisdom. The eye also symbolizes our ability to see with clarity and truthfulness.

Ra VS Horus

Traditionally, there are 2 mystical eyes in Egyptian magical lore.

The Eye of Ra and the Eye of Horus.

The Eye of Ra is associated with the solar deity; The Eye of Horus a lunar. This coupled with references in literature and practical experience leads to the idea that the Eye of Ra is the right eye and the Eye of Horus the left.

However, one can often find images called The Eye of Horus, when in fact they are the Eye of Ra and the opposite. This is partially due to the artistic license used when representing the Eye of Horus, as it was often painted from either perspective. So, it is fair to say that the eye can be drawn facing either direction and still be referred to as the Eye of Horus. The inner symbolic meaning is generally lost however, therefore we choose to represent the left eye.

Wedjat

The Wedjat Eye is the left eye of Horus, which was restored by Thoth. It is a lunar eye, left being traditionally associated with the moon. It was returned after being stolen by Set (Seth) and was healed by Thoth. It was a symbol of the power of the god of light, and therefore a popular amulet.

 

[beenwize]

Stupid nigga, just because it is a.k.a. the eye of Ra does not mean that it represents Ra.

This is exactly what I said...."This is not the “all seeing eye” of Amen-Ra. That is the eye of Horus, the Egyptian god of the sky 'The One Far Above'. Horus is represented by the famous “all seeing eye” from above. Amen-Ra was the combination of the Amen “the king of gods” and Ra “the sun god.” Amun was represented as a ram or a man with a ram head. Ra was represented as a man with a sun disk atop a hawk head. So your research connecting Amun Ra, Yah/Jehova, freemasonry, Jay-Z, and Jehovah ’s Witness pyramids is baseless."

So now you change your shit up and dropped the Amen after you were properly schooled.... GTFOHWTBS son!!!! I grow weary of arguing with a nigga that's gonna pull fiction out they ass and claim that it is proper research. You have attempted to deceive by changing your posts to hide the ether and the fact that you have no clue to what the fuck you speak about. I ignore your research links because they are not reliable.(you need more people)

READ below dumb nigga!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra

In later Egyptian dynastic times, Ra was merged with the god Horus, as Re-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons"). He was believed to rule in all parts of the created world the sky, the earth, and the underworld.[2] He was associated with the falcon or hawk. When in the New Kingdom the god Amun rose to prominence he was fused with Ra as Amun-Ra. During the Amarna Period, Akhenaten suppressed the cult of Ra in favour of another solar deity, the Aten, the deified solar disc, but after the death of Akhenaten the cult of Ra was restored.

To the Egyptians, the sun represented light, warmth, and growth. This made the sun deity very important as the sun was seen as the ruler of all that he created. The sun disk was either seen as the body or eye of Ra.

 

[bambu]

Dumb nigga show some research instead of talking nonsense. I'm posting evidence that it's also referred to as the "Eye of Ra" and not just the 'Eye of Horus" As I stated b4 READ Dr. Ben book and you will learn something. Here is more proof dude.

http://www.netconstructions.com/horus/eye.html

The Eye of Horus is very significant.

Horus was the falcon-headed solar and sky god from ancient Egypt. He is associated with vitality, health and regeneration. Horus was the son of Osiris and Isis. His right eye was white, and represented the sun, and his left eye was black, and represented the moon. According to Egyptian myth, Seth, Horus’s brother, killed Osiris. Horus fought Seth to avenge this death and lost his left eye in the fight. Thoth, the God of magic and the moon, used his powers to reassemble Horus’s eye and returned it to Horus. It was a symbol of the power of the God of light, and therefore a popular amulet for protection and good luck. On presenting his eye to Osiris, Osiris experienced rebirth.

The Eye of Horus symbolizes protection and the bringing of wisdom. The eye also symbolizes our ability to see with clarity and truthfulness.

Ra VS Horus

Traditionally, there are 2 mystical eyes in Egyptian magical lore.

The Eye of Ra and the Eye of Horus.

The Eye of Ra is associated with the solar deity; The Eye of Horus a lunar. This coupled with references in literature and practical experience leads to the idea that the Eye of Ra is the right eye and the Eye of Horus the left.

However, one can often find images called The Eye of Horus, when in fact they are the Eye of Ra and the opposite. This is partially due to the artistic license used when representing the Eye of Horus, as it was often painted from either perspective. So, it is fair to say that the eye can be drawn facing either direction and still be referred to as the Eye of Horus. The inner symbolic meaning is generally lost however, therefore we choose to represent the left eye.

Wedjat

The Wedjat Eye is the left eye of Horus, which was restored by Thoth. It is a lunar eye, left being traditionally associated with the moon. It was returned after being stolen by Set (Seth) and was healed by Thoth. It was a symbol of the power of the god of light, and therefore a popular amulet.

Nigga you started carrying on bout the eye of Amen-Ra, ignorant of the symbol in the first place.

How bout I just dissect your research...."However, one can often find images called The Eye of Horus, when in fact they are the Eye of Ra and the opposite. This is partially due to the artistic license used when representing the Eye of Horus, as it was often painted from either perspective. So, it is fair to say that the eye can be drawn facing either direction and still be referred to as the Eye of Horus." And this rests my case, you claim that its use in connection to the Hebrew god was to the sun god, prove it or shut the fuck up.