Knives Amilli
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I've already harped on how i hate the "Lex and Clark grew up in Smallville" thing...so some other concepts that've returned to DC that I hate are (and not all of them are Silver Age):
Making Clark Superboy again-Granted they've danced around it by saying he was only "Superboy" when he was in the 30th century with the Legion, but it takes a lot of relatability away from an already difficult to relate to character. Once again, going back to me preferring the Byrne reboot, I always preferred the notion that Clark grew up normally and then after learning of his origins, first saw the world before deciding to be a superhero (shit isn't that would most of us would do?). Having Clark be Superboy pretty much means he was pretty much a goddamn pro at being a Superhero by the time he became Superman.
Plus it (again) shoehorns the Legion into the Superman mythos, and as it is I already hate how no one in the DCU can't take a shit without it being connected to Superman in some way. The Legion is one of those franchises that (if ever given a good enough creative team, and an overall vision) can be on its own, it doesn't need to linger in Superman's shadow.
killing Pa Kent-Goddamn this is getting old. Ever since Richard Donner had Pa die in the Superman movies, every other writers lives out their snuff fantasies by killing off Pa every so often. He died in the movie, damn near died when Clark died, was thought to be dead during Our Worlds at War, Morrison killed him off in All Star Superman, and Johns killed him off a couple years back after Brainiacs attack.
Why it pisses me off is that Superman is the anti-angst guy; in his more prominent modern iterations (pre crisis both parents were dead), he's never needed angst to be a superhero or to learn the valuable lesson of "you can't save everyone". And usually when writers want to stress the "you can't save everyone" point, they usually have Clark fail to save some previously unknown character or have him come face to face with a global issue like war or famine.
Killing Pa Kent (outside of All Star Supes) just seems pointless and takes away from one of the more unique aspects of Superman (how many superheroes do you know off that have both parents alive and are on good terms with them?). The only good that could come off it is Martha Kent in a more prominent role (women dont have much visibility or importance in comics, especially to prominent male characters) and much hasn't really been done with that.
The 52 and making New Earth the center of the multiverse-"Hey guys y'know that whole concept of infinite alternate Earths that was really prominent twenty five years ago? Well we're bringing it back (even thou it was never really gone) but because we think its REALLY CONFUSING to readers, we're going to limit the number to 52 (which kind of undermines the whole "infinite Earths" point/really the whole point of introducing alternate universes)"-Pretty much explains why i hate the 52 Earths concept. If your bringing back in the multiverse (which really doens't even have to be explained, its comics for gods sake) go all out. Don't be a pussy and think your doing readers a service by limiting the number. Cuz really pre crisis DCU wasn't really confusing, it was just IMO, from an editorial standpoint, harder to maintain and streamline, harder to keep cohesive. And a shared universe was becoming the popular thing.
And by making New Earth" the one world that can't be destroyed, lest the whole multiverse be destroyed?" Great job DC, you've just made any and all stories that don't take place on New Earth of no importance whatsoever. This is one of the many concepts marvel does so much better than DC. IN 616 Marvel, Earth is considered a primitive backwater planet with walking genetic atrocities running rampant. The only credit to the planets existence is Reed Richards and extraterrestrial opinion of him isnt that high since he claims that Galactus is a necessary force in the Universe. This concept is why Annihilation worked so well; after all if Annihilus was running through Herald level heroes and advances societies like the Kree and Skrull, what hope would Earth have?
Ive actually got a whole list of bullshit tthat DC does that i hate, but this will suffice for now....
Making Clark Superboy again-Granted they've danced around it by saying he was only "Superboy" when he was in the 30th century with the Legion, but it takes a lot of relatability away from an already difficult to relate to character. Once again, going back to me preferring the Byrne reboot, I always preferred the notion that Clark grew up normally and then after learning of his origins, first saw the world before deciding to be a superhero (shit isn't that would most of us would do?). Having Clark be Superboy pretty much means he was pretty much a goddamn pro at being a Superhero by the time he became Superman.
Plus it (again) shoehorns the Legion into the Superman mythos, and as it is I already hate how no one in the DCU can't take a shit without it being connected to Superman in some way. The Legion is one of those franchises that (if ever given a good enough creative team, and an overall vision) can be on its own, it doesn't need to linger in Superman's shadow.
killing Pa Kent-Goddamn this is getting old. Ever since Richard Donner had Pa die in the Superman movies, every other writers lives out their snuff fantasies by killing off Pa every so often. He died in the movie, damn near died when Clark died, was thought to be dead during Our Worlds at War, Morrison killed him off in All Star Superman, and Johns killed him off a couple years back after Brainiacs attack.
Why it pisses me off is that Superman is the anti-angst guy; in his more prominent modern iterations (pre crisis both parents were dead), he's never needed angst to be a superhero or to learn the valuable lesson of "you can't save everyone". And usually when writers want to stress the "you can't save everyone" point, they usually have Clark fail to save some previously unknown character or have him come face to face with a global issue like war or famine.
Killing Pa Kent (outside of All Star Supes) just seems pointless and takes away from one of the more unique aspects of Superman (how many superheroes do you know off that have both parents alive and are on good terms with them?). The only good that could come off it is Martha Kent in a more prominent role (women dont have much visibility or importance in comics, especially to prominent male characters) and much hasn't really been done with that.
The 52 and making New Earth the center of the multiverse-"Hey guys y'know that whole concept of infinite alternate Earths that was really prominent twenty five years ago? Well we're bringing it back (even thou it was never really gone) but because we think its REALLY CONFUSING to readers, we're going to limit the number to 52 (which kind of undermines the whole "infinite Earths" point/really the whole point of introducing alternate universes)"-Pretty much explains why i hate the 52 Earths concept. If your bringing back in the multiverse (which really doens't even have to be explained, its comics for gods sake) go all out. Don't be a pussy and think your doing readers a service by limiting the number. Cuz really pre crisis DCU wasn't really confusing, it was just IMO, from an editorial standpoint, harder to maintain and streamline, harder to keep cohesive. And a shared universe was becoming the popular thing.
And by making New Earth" the one world that can't be destroyed, lest the whole multiverse be destroyed?" Great job DC, you've just made any and all stories that don't take place on New Earth of no importance whatsoever. This is one of the many concepts marvel does so much better than DC. IN 616 Marvel, Earth is considered a primitive backwater planet with walking genetic atrocities running rampant. The only credit to the planets existence is Reed Richards and extraterrestrial opinion of him isnt that high since he claims that Galactus is a necessary force in the Universe. This concept is why Annihilation worked so well; after all if Annihilus was running through Herald level heroes and advances societies like the Kree and Skrull, what hope would Earth have?
Ive actually got a whole list of bullshit tthat DC does that i hate, but this will suffice for now....
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