The Logic Of Not Voting ?

[dwade206]

there's ABSOLUTE logic to it..

Cosign! Tariq already broke this down several times. The info is out there.T/S simply just has to look for it.

 

[R.D.]

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[jetlifebih]

I wonder how many people are members of a church that go hard for voting during the presidential election

 

[blackrain]

I'm saying they're all worse than trump because they all have passed legislation that has directly fucked black people

Trump has never been in a position to pass oppressive legislation but he will just be doing the same things that are already happening if he is elected. So will hillary, it literally does not matter

Y'all gotta stop believing the media

But he's damn sure been sued over his racist housing practices. Him and his daddy was pretty much Donald Sterling of the east coast.

 

[NeighborhoodNomad.]

When given the option of choosing between the "lesser of two evils", choose righteousness.

Being that the "american dream" isn't my narrative, I don't participate in that narrative. I have enough game and discernment to recognize that these policy makers are our oppressors and

I refuse to consciously participate in my own oppression. But I will and do actively participate in my and our freedom. I don't vote, I don't believe in this system, This is all a game. I don't fuck with jury duty either. I also know that this is not a broken system. The system is working exactly the way it was designed and there is no "fixing it from the inside". But we can create and build a new one. It will be work, but it will be ours.

But I am out here putting in much work and making change in my community regardless of policy.

If you're going to vote, vote for yourself, vote for your people, vote for your community.

Where do I register for Revolution?

 

[Westie]

.....and further more lol at you ppl thinking your tax dollars count....at the federal level in a presidential election.

We're ALL being extorted either way..whether you vote, not vote, complain about who you voted for because you think your tax dollars had influence over that specific politician.

Try NOT paying your taxes and see what happens.

Who thinks their tax dollars count????? Who thinks paying taxes isn't fucking extortion??? What person with basic knowledge does not understand that lobbyists and corporate money influences politicians???

Sometimes y'all who like to think you're protesting the system by not even participating in it get ahead of yourselves thinking you know more than most people, you don't.

@ bolded.

People who think paying taxes gives them more reason to complain about policies of an elected official that they chose to vote for more than someone that chose not to vote.

I'm not saying I'm not voting because I know more or less than anyone, I'm not voting because I have come to my personal conclusion that I don't support Hillary Clinton's policy history or Donald Trump's present campaign.

To add, I grew up in high crime areas where taking the garbage to your curb could get you questioned by the police, lived a lot of different places,and been pulled over more times for "looking suspicious" and for the purposes of questioning my legal status (parole or probation) more so than any actual violation. I've probably had 35 non warranted contacts with the police under their suspicion off the way I look alone (between ages 17-30). Stop and frisk although I certainly don't want it....because it is all the way fucked up.....doesn't scare me....and I'm not going to support Hillary to avoid it.....and Hillary never said Stop and Frisk was wrong, she said it was ineffective.....and unconstitutional because in part because it was ineffective which leads me to wonder what does she think is effective ( for the super predators )....

She has at least AT THE PRESENT TIME said it's not ok for these police killings to take place. There will never be a perfect candidate, but ok act as if the blatant racism that has come out of trumps mouth is on par with Hillary is crazy af. You may not like all of Hillarys old policies or trust her, so that means sitting it out and getting one step closer to getting this blatant racist to become the president of a country you live in? You're allowed this right, you don't have to do anything, I just think it's ridiculous.

 

[xxCivicxx]

I think people should do and be allowed to do whatever they want

If you want to vote, vote but don't tell anybody who's not why they should and vice versa

Show me one time in the history of civilization, voting or any form of peaceful protest/rebellion led to the change an oppressed people were looking for

The name calling against people who choose not to is weird to me

Voting/not voting is no different than Dem/Rep in my view

Both sides want the same thing but have different ideologies on how to get there..who's to say your way or my way is better but we can look at history

Unless you been in them rooms, you speaking off beliefs/opinions just like the next man

My ancestors/OGs ain't die for the right to vote, they died to be free and I believe that's the path I'm walking

I don't believe in speaking off of beliefs because the legislation I'm talking about is public record

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what any president in American history has ever done for black people

Most black people vote because you are told to vote. That's it. If you truly understood the system you'd understand that voting for a president is irrelevant. No one gets to that position unless they are firmly bought

And as I said before, the Clinton foundation stole billions from Haiti and left it in an even worse state than the earthquake did AND they brought cholera back to the island, but y'all don't care because THOSE black people are "over there".

I guess y'all think the Clinton's are gonna treat the black people over here better smh

 

[the dukester]

Asians don't actively vote & participate in elections, but they have economic power so their voices/concerns get heard.

We voted for Obama overwhelmingly twice & we didn't get any favorable policy.

The Democratic party has been using black folks for votes for multiple generations.

 

[kingblaze84]

There's some logic to not voting, though I'm voting 3rd party this year for Jill Stein, I definitely understand why someone wouldn't vote this year. Trump or Hilary both are gonna be bad for the country long term, both are warmongers and I have a feeling Hillary is dying to start some beef with Iran or Russia when she gets elected, among other nations. Neither Trump or Hillary can be trusted, so boycotting this election makes a lot of sense. Although Hillary is better then Trump in several ways, I don't want my conscience being on whatever bullshit she's gonna be on when she's in office. She voted for the war in Iraq and is a slave to Israel, I don't trust Hillary for shit.

 

[kingblaze84]

To answer the OP, the logic behind voting is, it is MY CHOICE AND RIGHT to decide if I want to vote or not. There has to be a candidate that I deem worthy enough to spend time out of day to go out and vote for. If there is no candidate that fits the bill, I will not vote, simple logic.

Then there's the personal accountability that comes with voting. If I vote for president X, and president X bombs a foreign land killing civilians, women and children, I am partially responsible. And I refuse to have that kind of blood on my hands.

To quote the great Dead Prez:

Yo, you expect me to vote for the lesser of two evils?

NEVER!

It’s more like the evil of two lessers.

That’s like sayin’ – M! Choose your oppressor!

Pick one! Jeffery Dahmer or Hannibal Lecter

You want Crack, Coke, Pepsi or Dr. Pepper?

THEY ALL FUCKED UP and neither one of ‘em better

Cuz Crack is like a Democrat

Cocaine – Republican

Marijuana – Independent Party

SAME GOVERNMENT!

You really think your vote counts?

Ask my folk down in Florida didn’t they straight THROW they shit out!

And them crackas act innocent,

KNOWING they depend on this

Benefit from HUSH money from big businesses

MONEY is the president!

...

If CONGRESS can’t make PROGRESS

Let’s change the PROCESS -

NO MORE TOMS RUNNIN’ FOR OFFICE!

Amen brotha, it's exactly why I refuse to vote for Hillary, although she may be slightly better then Trump

 

[NeighborhoodNomad.]

The USA is literally a private corporation. The President of the United States Inc. is the president of a company. The president of a company is rarely the owner of the company, so the president of that company always answers to the owner(s). The president is an employee. If the problem is the company and its owners, why does it matter who the next general manager is? If I know the problem is the company, then it's time for me to do what I got to do, make the right moves and be an entrepreneur.

 

[Peace_79]

Cuz equal pay for women isn't a black issue

Cuz gay rights arent black issues

Cuz police relations aren't black issues

Cuz the state of economy isn't a black issue

Cuz the tax code isn't a black issue

Cuz affordable education isn't a black issue

Cuz maternity/paternity leave isn't a black issue

Cuz affordable child care isn't a black issue

Cuz clean, renewable energy isn't a black issue

Cuz anti-terrorism strategy isn't a black issue

Cuz foreign policy / foreign relations isn't a black issue

Cuz trade policy, the global economy isn't a black issue

None of that "affects black people" ...

We shouldn't care what the president plans to do about it.

 

[Peace_79]

I bet a lot of y'all don't even know the platform she is running on ...

Didn't even factor that into your decision.

Shit - If you ain't voting cuz you're frustrated ... or you just don't like the bitch - I can respect that.

Just don't sit here and tell me this is your self-ritcheous way of "saving America".

 

[NeighborhoodNomad.]

I bet a lot of y'all don't even know the platform she is running on ...

Didn't even factor that into your decision.

Shit - If you ain't voting cuz you're frustrated ... or you just don't like the bitch - I can respect that.

Just don't sit here and tell me this is your self-ritcheous way of "saving America".

I can only speak for myself on this but my decision to not vote isn't at all about saving america, its ideas/dream or its system. My decision to not vote and the actions in my community are about creating and establishing a completely new one. Starting over is a inevitable part of life. Recognizing that I'd rather be more in alignment with the cause that the effect.

 

[leftcoastkev]

.....and further more lol at you ppl thinking your tax dollars count....at the federal level in a presidential election.

We're ALL being extorted either way..whether you vote, not vote, complain about who you voted for because you think your tax dollars had influence over that specific politician.

Try NOT paying your taxes and see what happens.

Who thinks their tax dollars count????? Who thinks paying taxes isn't fucking extortion??? What person with basic knowledge does not understand that lobbyists and corporate money influences politicians???

Sometimes y'all who like to think you're protesting the system by not even participating in it get ahead of yourselves thinking you know more than most people, you don't.

@ bolded.

People who think paying taxes gives them more reason to complain about policies of an elected official that they chose to vote for more than someone that chose not to vote.

I'm not saying I'm not voting because I know more or less than anyone, I'm not voting because I have come to my personal conclusion that I don't support Hillary Clinton's policy history or Donald Trump's present campaign.

To add, I grew up in high crime areas where taking the garbage to your curb could get you questioned by the police, lived a lot of different places,and been pulled over more times for "looking suspicious" and for the purposes of questioning my legal status (parole or probation) more so than any actual violation. I've probably had 35 non warranted contacts with the police under their suspicion off the way I look alone (between ages 17-30). Stop and frisk although I certainly don't want it....because it is all the way fucked up.....doesn't scare me....and I'm not going to support Hillary to avoid it.....and Hillary never said Stop and Frisk was wrong, she said it was ineffective.....and unconstitutional because in part because it was ineffective which leads me to wonder what does she think is effective ( for the super predators )....

She has at least AT THE PRESENT TIME said it's not ok for these police killings to take place.There will never be a perfect candidate, but ok act as if the blatant racism that has come out of trumps mouth is on par with Hillary is crazy af. You may not like all of Hillarys old policies or trust her, so that means sitting it out and getting one step closer to getting this blatant racist to become the president of a country you live in? You're allowed this right, you don't have to do anything, I just think it's ridiculous.

@ bolded

You're absolutely right.

.....and it's called pandering. Why? Because even with the parade of Black Death and protests all through the public consciousness and news, she has proposed no actionable plan. Only empathatic and vague words. Nothing of substance. I don't like clintons new policies in regards to the racial dynamic because she hasn't proposed any. My only conclusion is the present shitshow slow drip of unarmed Black Deaths will continue while we look the other way and give police money for reforms which do as they did in 2015, 14, 13.......There is nothing there.

The only concern I have about having a blatant racist in office vs a current silent denial of systematic racism is the emboldening of the populous.

Other than that even if trump wins fuck it, the world needs to see America for what it is.

 

[Westie]

.....and further more lol at you ppl thinking your tax dollars count....at the federal level in a presidential election.

We're ALL being extorted either way..whether you vote, not vote, complain about who you voted for because you think your tax dollars had influence over that specific politician.

Try NOT paying your taxes and see what happens.

Who thinks their tax dollars count????? Who thinks paying taxes isn't fucking extortion??? What person with basic knowledge does not understand that lobbyists and corporate money influences politicians???

Sometimes y'all who like to think you're protesting the system by not even participating in it get ahead of yourselves thinking you know more than most people, you don't.

@ bolded.

People who think paying taxes gives them more reason to complain about policies of an elected official that they chose to vote for more than someone that chose not to vote.

I'm not saying I'm not voting because I know more or less than anyone, I'm not voting because I have come to my personal conclusion that I don't support Hillary Clinton's policy history or Donald Trump's present campaign.

To add, I grew up in high crime areas where taking the garbage to your curb could get you questioned by the police, lived a lot of different places,and been pulled over more times for "looking suspicious" and for the purposes of questioning my legal status (parole or probation) more so than any actual violation. I've probably had 35 non warranted contacts with the police under their suspicion off the way I look alone (between ages 17-30). Stop and frisk although I certainly don't want it....because it is all the way fucked up.....doesn't scare me....and I'm not going to support Hillary to avoid it.....and Hillary never said Stop and Frisk was wrong, she said it was ineffective.....and unconstitutional because in part because it was ineffective which leads me to wonder what does she think is effective ( for the super predators )....

She has at least AT THE PRESENT TIME said it's not ok for these police killings to take place.There will never be a perfect candidate, but ok act as if the blatant racism that has come out of trumps mouth is on par with Hillary is crazy af. You may not like all of Hillarys old policies or trust her, so that means sitting it out and getting one step closer to getting this blatant racist to become the president of a country you live in? You're allowed this right, you don't have to do anything, I just think it's ridiculous.

@ bolded

You're absolutely right.

.....and it's called pandering. Why? Because even with the parade of Black Death and protests all through the public consciousness and news, she has proposed no actionable plan. Only empathatic and vague words. Nothing of substance. I don't like clintons new policies in regards to the racial dynamic because she hasn't proposed any. My only conclusion is the present shitshow slow drip of unarmed Black Deaths will continue while we look the other way and give police money for reforms which do as they did in 2015, 14, 13.......There is nothing there.

The only concern I have about having a blatant racist in office vs a current silent denial of systematic racism is the emboldening of the populous.

Other than that even if trump wins fuck it, the world needs to see America for what it is.

Every single politician panders. I really don't know what people want? You're not going to find someone who wants to be the president that is 100% squeaky clean and genuine. You're not. Someone who wants that amount of power is not going to be flawless, quite the opposite. Trump is pandering to racists. You want to empower his base so people can see America "for what it really is"? The world does and this is making us look absolutely fucking ridiculous.

 

[Westie]

I bet a lot of y'all don't even know the platform she is running on ...

Didn't even factor that into your decision.

Shit - If you ain't voting cuz you're frustrated ... or you just don't like the bitch - I can respect that.

Just don't sit here and tell me this is your self-ritcheous way of "saving America".

I can only speak for myself on this but my decision to not vote isn't at all about saving america, its ideas/dream or its system. My decision to not vote and the actions in my community are about creating and establishing a completely new one. Starting over is a inevitable part of life. Recognizing that I'd rather be more in alignment with the cause that the effect.

What does not having a say in who "runs this country" do to establish anything?

You're also passing up an opportunity to vote for laws in your own area.

 

[Westie]

There's some logic to not voting, though I'm voting 3rd party this year for Jill Stein, I definitely understand why someone wouldn't vote this year. Trump or Hilary both are gonna be bad for the country long term, both are warmongers and I have a feeling Hillary is dying to start some beef with Iran or Russia when she gets elected, among other nations. Neither Trump or Hillary can be trusted, so boycotting this election makes a lot of sense. Although Hillary is better then Trump in several ways, I don't want my conscience being on whatever bullshit she's gonna be on when she's in office. She voted for the war in Iraq and is a slave to Israel, I don't trust Hillary for shit.

A vote for the Third Party candidate is a vote for Trump but you'll feel better if he wins? Lol Okay hun.

 

[Westie]

I really never thought I gave a shit if people didn't vote but seeing some of the "logic" behind it pisses me off.

 

[mrrealone]

It makes sense not to vote once you see these politicians for who they are....

What sane minded person would vote for politicians who takes taxpayer $$ and throws it to whatever they feel like? Who would vote for some politician that forces you to submit to unnatural laws and policies and if you don't, well you get fined or sued? And that's just a few examples. The ppl who are unaware voters are just blind monkeys following whatever the tv tells em to. You ain't got no control over these politicians what so ever, but yet, you putting them in office. They need to wake up and look @ what they are doing because this White House has been pimping them since they came into existence.....