The Logic Of Not Voting ?

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NothingButTheTruth;9392993 said:
To answer the OP, the logic behind voting is, it is MY CHOICE AND RIGHT to decide if I want to vote or not. There has to be a candidate that I deem worthy enough to spend time out of day to go out and vote for. If there is no candidate that fits the bill, I will not vote, simple logic.

Then there's the personal accountability that comes with voting. If I vote for president X, and president X bombs a foreign land killing civilians, women and children, I am partially responsible. And I refuse to have that kind of blood on my hands.

To quote the great Dead Prez:

Yo, you expect me to vote for the lesser of two evils?

NEVER!

It’s more like the evil of two lessers.

That’s like sayin’ – M! Choose your oppressor!

Pick one! Jeffery Dahmer or Hannibal Lecter

You want Crack, Coke, Pepsi or Dr. Pepper?

THEY ALL FUCKED UP and neither one of ‘em better

Cuz Crack is like a Democrat

Cocaine – Republican

Marijuana – Independent Party

SAME GOVERNMENT!

You really think your vote counts?

Ask my folk down in Florida didn’t they straight THROW they shit out!

And them crackas act innocent,

KNOWING they depend on this

Benefit from HUSH money from big businesses

MONEY is the president!

...

If CONGRESS can’t make PROGRESS

Let’s change the PROCESS -

NO MORE TOMS RUNNIN’ FOR OFFICE!

Only odd thing about this is...how do expect to change the process?
 
blackrain;9393210 said:
NothingButTheTruth;9392993 said:
To answer the OP, the logic behind voting is, it is MY CHOICE AND RIGHT to decide if I want to vote or not. There has to be a candidate that I deem worthy enough to spend time out of day to go out and vote for. If there is no candidate that fits the bill, I will not vote, simple logic.

Then there's the personal accountability that comes with voting. If I vote for president X, and president X bombs a foreign land killing civilians, women and children, I am partially responsible. And I refuse to have that kind of blood on my hands.

To quote the great Dead Prez:

Yo, you expect me to vote for the lesser of two evils?

NEVER!

It’s more like the evil of two lessers.

That’s like sayin’ – M! Choose your oppressor!

Pick one! Jeffery Dahmer or Hannibal Lecter

You want Crack, Coke, Pepsi or Dr. Pepper?

THEY ALL FUCKED UP and neither one of ‘em better

Cuz Crack is like a Democrat

Cocaine – Republican

Marijuana – Independent Party

SAME GOVERNMENT!

You really think your vote counts?

Ask my folk down in Florida didn’t they straight THROW they shit out!

And them crackas act innocent,

KNOWING they depend on this

Benefit from HUSH money from big businesses

MONEY is the president!

...

If CONGRESS can’t make PROGRESS

Let’s change the PROCESS -

NO MORE TOMS RUNNIN’ FOR OFFICE!

Only odd thing about this is...how do expect to change the process?

It's impossible to change the system

It has to be destroyed and recreated
 
I don't support any of the candidates.

At the end of the day, on an individual level I'm going to put myself in the position to be successful no matter who becomes president.

At a group level I'm going to financially support my people who I can on the ground level who are ambitious and have good business ideas.

I'm not going to go out of my way to throw political support (vote) for someone I have no confidence in.

I voted for Obama in 08 because I believed he would be a positive for black people as a group. I didn't vote in '12 because he didn't earn it. In 16' nobody has earned my vote to be a positive for black people on a group level.
 
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.....and further more lol at you ppl thinking your tax dollars count....at the federal level in a presidential election.

We're ALL being extorted either way..whether you vote, not vote, complain about who you voted for because you think your tax dollars had influence over that specific politician.

Try NOT paying your taxes and see what happens.

 
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blackrain;9393210 said:
NothingButTheTruth;9392993 said:
To answer the OP, the logic behind voting is, it is MY CHOICE AND RIGHT to decide if I want to vote or not. There has to be a candidate that I deem worthy enough to spend time out of day to go out and vote for. If there is no candidate that fits the bill, I will not vote, simple logic.

Then there's the personal accountability that comes with voting. If I vote for president X, and president X bombs a foreign land killing civilians, women and children, I am partially responsible. And I refuse to have that kind of blood on my hands.

To quote the great Dead Prez:

Yo, you expect me to vote for the lesser of two evils?

NEVER!

It’s more like the evil of two lessers.

That’s like sayin’ – M! Choose your oppressor!

Pick one! Jeffery Dahmer or Hannibal Lecter

You want Crack, Coke, Pepsi or Dr. Pepper?

THEY ALL FUCKED UP and neither one of ‘em better

Cuz Crack is like a Democrat

Cocaine – Republican

Marijuana – Independent Party

SAME GOVERNMENT!

You really think your vote counts?

Ask my folk down in Florida didn’t they straight THROW they shit out!

And them crackas act innocent,

KNOWING they depend on this

Benefit from HUSH money from big businesses

MONEY is the president!

...

If CONGRESS can’t make PROGRESS

Let’s change the PROCESS -

NO MORE TOMS RUNNIN’ FOR OFFICE!

Only odd thing about this is...how do expect to change the process?

You won't get a plausible answer to this.

But while we are waiting for it to magically change ...

Let's allow an incompetent, bigoted psychopath to run our country and destroy our relationships with the other 95% of the world.
 
Oh Im. Voting alright and I want to Florida posters to vote yes on amendment 2. Why should Alaska and Colorado have all the fun?
 
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Inglewood_B;9393130 said:
Neophyte Wolfgang;9393081 said:
I don't vote for people I don't like. Its pointless and you masses will be lead to your own destruction, enjoy you deserve every bit of it

Since we taking it to ridiculous extremes...

Whether you vote or not one of them will be elected. And if the winner decides it's time for "destruction" you aren't exemption it because you didn't vote. You gon march your goofy ass into an internment camp wishing you put your vote in for the other candidate and deserve every bit of it.

That nigga said "you masses will be lead to your own destruction" like they gonna give him a pass for not voting :joy:
 
NothingButTheTruth;9392963 said:
rapmusic;9392838 said:
Black folks are like fuck Clinton I'm just not voting for anybody in the election.. Meanwhile, there are many white folks who said they don't like Trump straight jumping on his side all of a sudden. Even "lying" Ted Cruz endorsed Donald Trump. White folks are loyal to the Republican party while people are telling black folks not to be loyal to the Democratic party. Wonder how many Hilary haters are going to vote Trump.

Black people don't have anywhere near as much clout or power as white people in this country, so stop acting like they're equivalent. White people determine the president year after year. Black people didn't get the half breed into office, white people did.

Well are these candidates wasting their time courting the black vote then? Niggas been bashing these guys for pandering to get the black vote. Are they wasting their time since we don't have the clout?
 
Peace_79;9393284 said:
blackrain;9393210 said:
NothingButTheTruth;9392993 said:
To answer the OP, the logic behind voting is, it is MY CHOICE AND RIGHT to decide if I want to vote or not. There has to be a candidate that I deem worthy enough to spend time out of day to go out and vote for. If there is no candidate that fits the bill, I will not vote, simple logic.

Then there's the personal accountability that comes with voting. If I vote for president X, and president X bombs a foreign land killing civilians, women and children, I am partially responsible. And I refuse to have that kind of blood on my hands.

To quote the great Dead Prez:

Yo, you expect me to vote for the lesser of two evils?

NEVER!

It’s more like the evil of two lessers.

That’s like sayin’ – M! Choose your oppressor!

Pick one! Jeffery Dahmer or Hannibal Lecter

You want Crack, Coke, Pepsi or Dr. Pepper?

THEY ALL FUCKED UP and neither one of ‘em better

Cuz Crack is like a Democrat

Cocaine – Republican

Marijuana – Independent Party

SAME GOVERNMENT!

You really think your vote counts?

Ask my folk down in Florida didn’t they straight THROW they shit out!

And them crackas act innocent,

KNOWING they depend on this

Benefit from HUSH money from big businesses

MONEY is the president!

...

If CONGRESS can’t make PROGRESS

Let’s change the PROCESS -

NO MORE TOMS RUNNIN’ FOR OFFICE!

Only odd thing about this is...how do expect to change the process?

You won't get a plausible answer to this.

But while we are waiting for it to magically change ...

Let's allow an incompetent, bigoted psychopath to run our country and destroy our relationships with the other 95% of the world.

George Bush wasn't all all of that?

Clinton wasn't all of that?

George hw Bush wasn't all of that?

Reagan wasn't all of that?

Nixon wasn't all of that?

LBJ wasn't all of that?

 
leftcoastkev;9393240 said:
.....and further more lol at you ppl thinking your tax dollars count....at the federal level in a presidential election.

We're ALL being extorted either way..whether you vote, not vote, complain about who you voted for because you think your tax dollars had influence over that specific politician.

Try NOT paying your taxes and see what happens.

Who thinks their tax dollars count????? Who thinks paying taxes isn't fucking extortion??? What person with basic knowledge does not understand that lobbyists and corporate money influences politicians???

Sometimes y'all who like to think you're protesting the system by not even participating in it get ahead of yourselves thinking you know more than most people, you don't.
 
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I'm saying they're all worse than trump because they all have passed legislation that has directly fucked black people

Trump has never been in a position to pass oppressive legislation but he will just be doing the same things that are already happening if he is elected. So will hillary, it literally does not matter

Y'all gotta stop believing the media
 
xxCivicxx;9393430 said:
I'm saying they're all worse than trump because they all have passed legislation that has directly fucked black people

Trump has never been in a position to pass oppressive legislation but he will just be doing the same things that are already happening if he is elected. So will hillary, it literally does not matter

Y'all gotta stop believing the media

Okay so just sit out this election and don't even try to do your part to try keeping him from doing that. Example... Pass the stop-and-frisk law Nationwide. Yeah Hillary and Trump are completely the same person you should just sit this out because you're so fucking smart.

Literally takes nothing to vote and even if you think it doesn't matter so the fuck what? What does it hurt?
 
I think people should do and be allowed to do whatever they want

If you want to vote, vote but don't tell anybody who's not why they should and vice versa

Show me one time in the history of civilization, voting or any form of peaceful protest/rebellion led to the change an oppressed people were looking for

The name calling against people who choose not to is weird to me

Voting/not voting is no different than Dem/Rep in my view

Both sides want the same thing but have different ideologies on how to get there..who's to say your way or my way is better but we can look at history

Unless you been in them rooms, you speaking off beliefs/opinions just like the next man

My ancestors/OGs ain't die for the right to vote, they died to be free and I believe that's the path I'm walking

 
Westie;9393426 said:
leftcoastkev;9393240 said:
.....and further more lol at you ppl thinking your tax dollars count....at the federal level in a presidential election.

We're ALL being extorted either way..whether you vote, not vote, complain about who you voted for because you think your tax dollars had influence over that specific politician.

Try NOT paying your taxes and see what happens.

Who thinks their tax dollars count????? Who thinks paying taxes isn't fucking extortion??? What person with basic knowledge does not understand that lobbyists and corporate money influences politicians???

Sometimes y'all who like to think you're protesting the system by not even participating in it get ahead of yourselves thinking you know more than most people, you don't.

@ bolded.

People who think paying taxes gives them more reason to complain about policies of an elected official that they chose to vote for more than someone that chose not to vote.

I'm not saying I'm not voting because I know more or less than anyone, I'm not voting because I have come to my personal conclusion that I don't support Hillary Clinton's policy history or Donald Trump's present campaign.

To add, I grew up in high crime areas where taking the garbage to your curb could get you questioned by the police, lived a lot of different places,and been pulled over more times for "looking suspicious" and for the purposes of questioning my legal status (parole or probation) more so than any actual violation. I've probably had 35 non warranted contacts with the police under their suspicion off the way I look alone (between ages 17-30). Stop and frisk although I certainly don't want it....because it is all the way fucked up.....doesn't scare me....and I'm not going to support Hillary to avoid it.....and Hillary never said Stop and Frisk was wrong, she said it was ineffective.....and unconstitutional because in part because it was ineffective which leads me to wonder what does she think is effective ( for the super predators )....

 
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xxCivicxx;9393430 said:
I'm saying they're all worse than trump because they all have passed legislation that has directly fucked black people

Trump has never been in a position to pass oppressive legislation but he will just be doing the same things that are already happening if he is elected. So will hillary, it literally does not matter

Y'all gotta stop believing the media

So the only damage a president could possibly do to the country ... is to pass a law that directly affects black people?

The comprehensive scope and influence of their office amounts to ... "laws that directly affect black people".

Wars

Terrorism

Education

Women's Rights

Trade Policy

Healthcare

Economy

Foreign Policy

Gun Policy

Immigration

To name a few. None of that matters ...

Let's assume that you are correct.

Let's assume that we live in a vacuum in which the only issue issue that remotely affects us or even matters whatsoever ... includes "laws that directly affect black people".

It is objectively true that Trump is an immensely more dangerous proposition for the African American community.

His LEADING proposal during a presidential election (you know the "too good to be true shit" ... the best shit he's got) is to implement nationwide Stop and Frisk...

You would choose WORSE treatment over BAD treatment... just to prove a point to yourself?

Cut off your nose to spite your face?

I guess I'm too logical to get down like that.

 

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